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Leroy Mowry 12-09-2004 04:03 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
"SoCalMike" wrote

> the lexuses, tundra and land cruiser have no
> competition from honda.


Wrong. See below.

Lexuses vs. Acuras
Land Cruiser vs Element, CRV, RAV4, Acura MDX
Tundra vs. Ridgeline Truck http://tinyurl.com/5qvxs

Lexus is a division of Toyota. Acura is a division of Honda Mtr Co.








Leroy Mowry 12-09-2004 04:03 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
"SoCalMike" wrote

> the lexuses, tundra and land cruiser have no
> competition from honda.


Wrong. See below.

Lexuses vs. Acuras
Land Cruiser vs Element, CRV, RAV4, Acura MDX
Tundra vs. Ridgeline Truck http://tinyurl.com/5qvxs

Lexus is a division of Toyota. Acura is a division of Honda Mtr Co.








Duvel 12-09-2004 09:31 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
Actually, the oil filter on my 2001 Accord is very easy to reach. I am
not sure about the new generation though.


Duvel 12-09-2004 09:31 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
Actually, the oil filter on my 2001 Accord is very easy to reach. I am
not sure about the new generation though.


JRK 12-09-2004 11:19 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 

"Duvel" <jepayne2k@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102602703.074569.249160@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
| Actually, the oil filter on my 2001 Accord is very easy to reach. I am
| not sure about the new generation though.
|

Easy to reach, but I can't remove mine without spilling oil all over...
unless I change it cold.



JRK 12-09-2004 11:19 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 

"Duvel" <jepayne2k@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102602703.074569.249160@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
| Actually, the oil filter on my 2001 Accord is very easy to reach. I am
| not sure about the new generation though.
|

Easy to reach, but I can't remove mine without spilling oil all over...
unless I change it cold.



SoCalMike 12-09-2004 09:19 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
¤jº~¥Á±Ú wrote:
> 300 that once I have owned, the car is absolutely flawless. And I hate Honda
> car's oil filter design, it is near impossible to reach, on the othre hand,
> Toyota cars, the oil filter is located right on the side of the engine, you
> can reach by hand very easy. Maybe next time, I have to shift to Toyota.


my girlfriends taco 4cyl prerunner is a PITA, because the oil drips all
over the faux "skidplate"

my moms scion? right in the front where god intended. reach up under the
bumper, and there it is.

SoCalMike 12-09-2004 09:19 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
¤jº~¥Á±Ú wrote:
> 300 that once I have owned, the car is absolutely flawless. And I hate Honda
> car's oil filter design, it is near impossible to reach, on the othre hand,
> Toyota cars, the oil filter is located right on the side of the engine, you
> can reach by hand very easy. Maybe next time, I have to shift to Toyota.


my girlfriends taco 4cyl prerunner is a PITA, because the oil drips all
over the faux "skidplate"

my moms scion? right in the front where god intended. reach up under the
bumper, and there it is.

SoCalMike 12-09-2004 09:24 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
Leroy Mowry wrote:

> "SoCalMike" wrote
>
>
>>the lexuses, tundra and land cruiser have no
>>competition from honda.

>
>
> Wrong. See below.
>
> Lexuses vs. Acuras


ok, if you want to compare FWD cars. does acura now make a RWD car?

> Land Cruiser vs Element, CRV, RAV4, Acura MDX


apples vs oranges. the only close comparo is a RAV vs CRV.

land cruiser vs element? WTF? completely different drivetrains, sizes,
weights, price ranges, and demographics.

land cruiser vs escalade would be more like it.

> Tundra vs. Ridgeline Truck http://tinyurl.com/5qvxs


the tundra is a "truck" the ridgeline is a bloated subaru brat.

SoCalMike 12-09-2004 09:24 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
Leroy Mowry wrote:

> "SoCalMike" wrote
>
>
>>the lexuses, tundra and land cruiser have no
>>competition from honda.

>
>
> Wrong. See below.
>
> Lexuses vs. Acuras


ok, if you want to compare FWD cars. does acura now make a RWD car?

> Land Cruiser vs Element, CRV, RAV4, Acura MDX


apples vs oranges. the only close comparo is a RAV vs CRV.

land cruiser vs element? WTF? completely different drivetrains, sizes,
weights, price ranges, and demographics.

land cruiser vs escalade would be more like it.

> Tundra vs. Ridgeline Truck http://tinyurl.com/5qvxs


the tundra is a "truck" the ridgeline is a bloated subaru brat.

monkey cow moon 12-10-2004 12:41 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 


http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases...asp?ID=2003050




"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
news:KtBtd.39996$6q2.31898@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> The most reliable cars of 2005 (Consumer reports)
>
> Lexus IS300 Toyota Prius
> Lexus SC430 Toyota Corolla
> Toyota Land Crusr Toyota Tundra
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> Full listing: http://snipurl.com/b7fw
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monkey cow moon 12-10-2004 12:41 AM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 


http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases...asp?ID=2003050




"Leroy Mowry" <@c.edu> wrote in message
news:KtBtd.39996$6q2.31898@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> The most reliable cars of 2005 (Consumer reports)
>
> Lexus IS300 Toyota Prius
> Lexus SC430 Toyota Corolla
> Toyota Land Crusr Toyota Tundra
>
> Full listing: http://snipurl.com/b7fw
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kiselink@mindspring.com 12-12-2004 04:09 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
I got a camry and an accord - both with 140K miles. The camry has had
lots more problems......2 steering pumps, 1 steering rack, sway
bushings, dash board lights that cost a fortune in labor to access and
replace, transmissions drain plugs that only drain half of the trans
fluid.......

Lets see.... how many interior door handles have broken????????
Oil leaky V6 engine!

Difficulet to change spark plugs in the rear.....


etc.

If your just going to keep a car a few years = dont matter but if ya
want to keep a car a long time!!!!!!!!?



kiselink@mindspring.com 12-12-2004 04:09 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
I got a camry and an accord - both with 140K miles. The camry has had
lots more problems......2 steering pumps, 1 steering rack, sway
bushings, dash board lights that cost a fortune in labor to access and
replace, transmissions drain plugs that only drain half of the trans
fluid.......

Lets see.... how many interior door handles have broken????????
Oil leaky V6 engine!

Difficulet to change spark plugs in the rear.....


etc.

If your just going to keep a car a few years = dont matter but if ya
want to keep a car a long time!!!!!!!!?



Michael Pardee 12-12-2004 04:29 PM

Re: The most reliable cars of 2005. Honda must be dozing off??
 
<kiselink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:8kcpr0dpb4vlhuoi7a4575dqtp1vqoet3p@4ax.com...
>I got a camry and an accord - both with 140K miles. The camry has had
> lots more problems......2 steering pumps, 1 steering rack, sway
> bushings, dash board lights that cost a fortune in labor to access and
> replace, transmissions drain plugs that only drain half of the trans
> fluid.......
>
> Lets see.... how many interior door handles have broken????????
> Oil leaky V6 engine!
>
> Difficulet to change spark plugs in the rear.....
>
>
> etc.
>
> If your just going to keep a car a few years = dont matter but if ya
> want to keep a car a long time!!!!!!!!?
>
>

You are correct, of course. Most cars are reliable enough to make it through
the warranty period without major problems, and many will make it through
the extended warranty period without causing the company to lose money on
the average. But if you are going for the long run, the numbers can be very
different indeed. I recently got rid of an '84 Nissan 300ZX with barely 150K
miles that had me working on it virtually every weekend. Electrical
intermittents mostly, but leaky injectors and a variety of other problems
too. And the spark plug access in that V6 would make Mother Teresa curse
God - and she's dead!

My daughter's '93 Accord has been a solid piece of transportation, even
though it is over 200K miles now. Little to medium-sized problems, but
nothing big.

Mike




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