My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
06-11-2005, 08:18 PM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
TeGGeR® wrote:
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1118444331.447587.232440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com:
>
>
>>
>>Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>>
>>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1118435290.875431.200430@g47g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>And how do I exterminate that confounded little rust spot I found
>>>>>near the rear wheel well?
>>>
>>>That spot you found is rust most likely eating its way out, not in.
>>>Water gets into the arch fold and starts rust on the inside. The only
>>>treatment is to reseal the fold with silicon on the outside, grind
>>>out the spot and either weld or fill with bondo, AND get into the
>>>inside wheel arch to treat the rust there. There'll be more than you
>>>see on the outside.
>>>
>>
>>Would it make more sense to do all of that, or to cruise the local
>>junkyards / ebay for those parts?
>>
>
>
>
> I seem to have come in late here. My news provider does not have the
> original posts in this thread.
>
> I gather the rust you speak of is at the rear of the rear wheel arch, right
> where it meets the bumper skin.
>
> If so, this rust is fatal and you will never get rid of it. The rust starts
> from the INSIDE. There are at least four panels welded together at this
> location, and the combination of pinchwelds and enclosed surfaces means
> lots of condensation and rain collecting there.
>
> By the time you see it, the rust has taken permanent hold. You can do
> whatever you like on the outside, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is
> true for any vehicle with similar construction. Repair is a waste of money
> and time.
>
> The solution?
> www.rustcheck.com
> www.krown.com
> From NEW.
> Odd that this is unknown to Americans and Britons, despite the astonishing
> efficacy of the treatment. It costs $110Cdn per year, but by God it works.
> Believe you me.
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/tegger/
> Except for the hood and roof (stone chips) and left front fender, that's
> all original paint you see. 14 years and almost 250K miles.
>
that's one impressively maintained car!
> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1118444331.447587.232440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com:
>
>
>>
>>Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>>
>>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1118435290.875431.200430@g47g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>>>And how do I exterminate that confounded little rust spot I found
>>>>>near the rear wheel well?
>>>
>>>That spot you found is rust most likely eating its way out, not in.
>>>Water gets into the arch fold and starts rust on the inside. The only
>>>treatment is to reseal the fold with silicon on the outside, grind
>>>out the spot and either weld or fill with bondo, AND get into the
>>>inside wheel arch to treat the rust there. There'll be more than you
>>>see on the outside.
>>>
>>
>>Would it make more sense to do all of that, or to cruise the local
>>junkyards / ebay for those parts?
>>
>
>
>
> I seem to have come in late here. My news provider does not have the
> original posts in this thread.
>
> I gather the rust you speak of is at the rear of the rear wheel arch, right
> where it meets the bumper skin.
>
> If so, this rust is fatal and you will never get rid of it. The rust starts
> from the INSIDE. There are at least four panels welded together at this
> location, and the combination of pinchwelds and enclosed surfaces means
> lots of condensation and rain collecting there.
>
> By the time you see it, the rust has taken permanent hold. You can do
> whatever you like on the outside, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is
> true for any vehicle with similar construction. Repair is a waste of money
> and time.
>
> The solution?
> www.rustcheck.com
> www.krown.com
> From NEW.
> Odd that this is unknown to Americans and Britons, despite the astonishing
> efficacy of the treatment. It costs $110Cdn per year, but by God it works.
> Believe you me.
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/tegger/
> Except for the hood and roof (stone chips) and left front fender, that's
> all original paint you see. 14 years and almost 250K miles.
>
that's one impressively maintained car!
06-12-2005, 08:28 AM
#32
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:18:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1118444331.447587.232440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1118435290.875431.200430@g47g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>>And how do I exterminate that confounded little rust spot I found
>>>>>>near the rear wheel well?
>>>>
>>>>That spot you found is rust most likely eating its way out, not in.
>>>>Water gets into the arch fold and starts rust on the inside. The only
>>>>treatment is to reseal the fold with silicon on the outside, grind
>>>>out the spot and either weld or fill with bondo, AND get into the
>>>>inside wheel arch to treat the rust there. There'll be more than you
>>>>see on the outside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Would it make more sense to do all of that, or to cruise the local
>>>junkyards / ebay for those parts?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have come in late here. My news provider does not have the
>> original posts in this thread.
>>
>> I gather the rust you speak of is at the rear of the rear wheel arch, right
>> where it meets the bumper skin.
>>
>> If so, this rust is fatal and you will never get rid of it. The rust starts
>> from the INSIDE. There are at least four panels welded together at this
>> location, and the combination of pinchwelds and enclosed surfaces means
>> lots of condensation and rain collecting there.
>>
>> By the time you see it, the rust has taken permanent hold. You can do
>> whatever you like on the outside, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is
>> true for any vehicle with similar construction. Repair is a waste of money
>> and time.
>>
>> The solution?
>> www.rustcheck.com
>> www.krown.com
>> From NEW.
>> Odd that this is unknown to Americans and Britons, despite the astonishing
>> efficacy of the treatment. It costs $110Cdn per year, but by God it works.
>> Believe you me.
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/tegger/
>> Except for the hood and roof (stone chips) and left front fender, that's
>> all original paint you see. 14 years and almost 250K miles.
>>
> that's one impressively maintained car!
ESP for Black!!!
--
The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1118444331.447587.232440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1118435290.875431.200430@g47g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>>And how do I exterminate that confounded little rust spot I found
>>>>>>near the rear wheel well?
>>>>
>>>>That spot you found is rust most likely eating its way out, not in.
>>>>Water gets into the arch fold and starts rust on the inside. The only
>>>>treatment is to reseal the fold with silicon on the outside, grind
>>>>out the spot and either weld or fill with bondo, AND get into the
>>>>inside wheel arch to treat the rust there. There'll be more than you
>>>>see on the outside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Would it make more sense to do all of that, or to cruise the local
>>>junkyards / ebay for those parts?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have come in late here. My news provider does not have the
>> original posts in this thread.
>>
>> I gather the rust you speak of is at the rear of the rear wheel arch, right
>> where it meets the bumper skin.
>>
>> If so, this rust is fatal and you will never get rid of it. The rust starts
>> from the INSIDE. There are at least four panels welded together at this
>> location, and the combination of pinchwelds and enclosed surfaces means
>> lots of condensation and rain collecting there.
>>
>> By the time you see it, the rust has taken permanent hold. You can do
>> whatever you like on the outside, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is
>> true for any vehicle with similar construction. Repair is a waste of money
>> and time.
>>
>> The solution?
>> www.rustcheck.com
>> www.krown.com
>> From NEW.
>> Odd that this is unknown to Americans and Britons, despite the astonishing
>> efficacy of the treatment. It costs $110Cdn per year, but by God it works.
>> Believe you me.
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/tegger/
>> Except for the hood and roof (stone chips) and left front fender, that's
>> all original paint you see. 14 years and almost 250K miles.
>>
> that's one impressively maintained car!
ESP for Black!!!
--
The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
06-12-2005, 08:28 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:18:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1118444331.447587.232440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1118435290.875431.200430@g47g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>>And how do I exterminate that confounded little rust spot I found
>>>>>>near the rear wheel well?
>>>>
>>>>That spot you found is rust most likely eating its way out, not in.
>>>>Water gets into the arch fold and starts rust on the inside. The only
>>>>treatment is to reseal the fold with silicon on the outside, grind
>>>>out the spot and either weld or fill with bondo, AND get into the
>>>>inside wheel arch to treat the rust there. There'll be more than you
>>>>see on the outside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Would it make more sense to do all of that, or to cruise the local
>>>junkyards / ebay for those parts?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have come in late here. My news provider does not have the
>> original posts in this thread.
>>
>> I gather the rust you speak of is at the rear of the rear wheel arch, right
>> where it meets the bumper skin.
>>
>> If so, this rust is fatal and you will never get rid of it. The rust starts
>> from the INSIDE. There are at least four panels welded together at this
>> location, and the combination of pinchwelds and enclosed surfaces means
>> lots of condensation and rain collecting there.
>>
>> By the time you see it, the rust has taken permanent hold. You can do
>> whatever you like on the outside, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is
>> true for any vehicle with similar construction. Repair is a waste of money
>> and time.
>>
>> The solution?
>> www.rustcheck.com
>> www.krown.com
>> From NEW.
>> Odd that this is unknown to Americans and Britons, despite the astonishing
>> efficacy of the treatment. It costs $110Cdn per year, but by God it works.
>> Believe you me.
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/tegger/
>> Except for the hood and roof (stone chips) and left front fender, that's
>> all original paint you see. 14 years and almost 250K miles.
>>
> that's one impressively maintained car!
ESP for Black!!!
--
The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>> "Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1118444331.447587.232440@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Stewart DIBBS wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1118435290.875431.200430@g47g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>>And how do I exterminate that confounded little rust spot I found
>>>>>>near the rear wheel well?
>>>>
>>>>That spot you found is rust most likely eating its way out, not in.
>>>>Water gets into the arch fold and starts rust on the inside. The only
>>>>treatment is to reseal the fold with silicon on the outside, grind
>>>>out the spot and either weld or fill with bondo, AND get into the
>>>>inside wheel arch to treat the rust there. There'll be more than you
>>>>see on the outside.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Would it make more sense to do all of that, or to cruise the local
>>>junkyards / ebay for those parts?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to have come in late here. My news provider does not have the
>> original posts in this thread.
>>
>> I gather the rust you speak of is at the rear of the rear wheel arch, right
>> where it meets the bumper skin.
>>
>> If so, this rust is fatal and you will never get rid of it. The rust starts
>> from the INSIDE. There are at least four panels welded together at this
>> location, and the combination of pinchwelds and enclosed surfaces means
>> lots of condensation and rain collecting there.
>>
>> By the time you see it, the rust has taken permanent hold. You can do
>> whatever you like on the outside, but it will ALWAYS come back. This is
>> true for any vehicle with similar construction. Repair is a waste of money
>> and time.
>>
>> The solution?
>> www.rustcheck.com
>> www.krown.com
>> From NEW.
>> Odd that this is unknown to Americans and Britons, despite the astonishing
>> efficacy of the treatment. It costs $110Cdn per year, but by God it works.
>> Believe you me.
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/readersrides/tegger/
>> Except for the hood and roof (stone chips) and left front fender, that's
>> all original paint you see. 14 years and almost 250K miles.
>>
> that's one impressively maintained car!
ESP for Black!!!
--
The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
06-12-2005, 08:34 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
hachiroku wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:51:02 +0000, TeGGeR® wrote:
>
>
> It probably has something to do with VOC contents,
>
Alas, this leads me back to politics. The EPA is so weakened at this
point that you can see the pink skies once again hovering over all of
the chemical plants in the US....
>
> certain chemicals
> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went belly-up
> 'cause their stuff just didn't work and us down here just aren't buying it
> any more.
>
> Where can I get some Cosmoline...
>
> --
> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
06-12-2005, 08:34 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
hachiroku wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 02:51:02 +0000, TeGGeR® wrote:
>
>
> It probably has something to do with VOC contents,
>
Alas, this leads me back to politics. The EPA is so weakened at this
point that you can see the pink skies once again hovering over all of
the chemical plants in the US....
>
> certain chemicals
> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went belly-up
> 'cause their stuff just didn't work and us down here just aren't buying it
> any more.
>
> Where can I get some Cosmoline...
>
> --
> The Relentless Pursuit Of Conception...
06-12-2005, 10:21 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in news:PXKqe.1094$fa3.982@trndny01:
> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
> and us down here just
> aren't buying it any more.
Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
into lace doilies.
--
TeGGeR®
> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
> and us down here just
> aren't buying it any more.
Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
into lace doilies.
--
TeGGeR®
06-12-2005, 10:21 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in news:PXKqe.1094$fa3.982@trndny01:
> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
> and us down here just
> aren't buying it any more.
Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
into lace doilies.
--
TeGGeR®
> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
> and us down here just
> aren't buying it any more.
Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
into lace doilies.
--
TeGGeR®
06-12-2005, 11:47 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:21:05 +0000, TeGGeR® wrote:
> hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in news:PXKqe.1094$fa3.982@trndny01:
>
>
>> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
>> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
>> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
>
>
> Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
My Supra seems to have weathered the years well...whomever Ziebarted it
must have done it RIGHT!
>
>
>> and us down here just
>> aren't buying it any more.
>
>
> Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
> into lace doilies.
> hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in news:PXKqe.1094$fa3.982@trndny01:
>
>
>> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
>> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
>> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
>
>
> Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
My Supra seems to have weathered the years well...whomever Ziebarted it
must have done it RIGHT!
>
>
>> and us down here just
>> aren't buying it any more.
>
>
> Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
> into lace doilies.
06-12-2005, 11:47 AM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 14:21:05 +0000, TeGGeR® wrote:
> hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in news:PXKqe.1094$fa3.982@trndny01:
>
>
>> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
>> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
>> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
>
>
> Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
My Supra seems to have weathered the years well...whomever Ziebarted it
must have done it RIGHT!
>
>
>> and us down here just
>> aren't buying it any more.
>
>
> Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
> into lace doilies.
> hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in news:PXKqe.1094$fa3.982@trndny01:
>
>
>> It probably has something to do with VOC contents, certain chemicals
>> banned in the US or the fact that Rusty Jones and Ziebart went
>> belly-up 'cause their stuff just didn't work
>
>
> Ziebart was selling the gummy or tarry stuff, which doesn't work.
My Supra seems to have weathered the years well...whomever Ziebarted it
must have done it RIGHT!
>
>
>> and us down here just
>> aren't buying it any more.
>
>
> Most people up here don't buy the stuff either. And then their cars turn
> into lace doilies.
06-12-2005, 11:24 PM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
hachiroku wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:28:10 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:
>
> > I want an answer NOW
>
>
> OK, then, get out the rags and buy the 3M!!! See you Sunday night, all
> worn out!
>
*yawn* two weeks of Mr. Mom duties wore me out -- slept all day...
Maybe next Saturday (note to self). For now I'll just hide my eyes
when I walk past the Honda in the mornings.
06-12-2005, 11:24 PM
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Re: My Honda Paint Job is Lookin BAAD -- Help (Hachiroku?)
hachiroku wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:28:10 -0700, Learning Richard wrote:
>
> > I want an answer NOW
>
>
> OK, then, get out the rags and buy the 3M!!! See you Sunday night, all
> worn out!
>
*yawn* two weeks of Mr. Mom duties wore me out -- slept all day...
Maybe next Saturday (note to self). For now I'll just hide my eyes
when I walk past the Honda in the mornings.
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