Robert11

Hello:

Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.

Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that cam
with the car:

It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
7,500 miles.

Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much sooner
than that.

Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
initially due to the mfg. process.

Is 7,500 for the first correct ?

Any thoughts on ?

Thanks,
Bob

L Alpert

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> that cam with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> at 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> might have initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service department
that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial "break
in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6 Accord).

L Alpert

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> that cam with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> at 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> might have initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service department
that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial "break
in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6 Accord).

L Alpert

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> that cam with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> at 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> might have initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service department
that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial "break
in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6 Accord).

L Alpert

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> that cam with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> at 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> might have initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob

I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service department
that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial "break
in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6 Accord).

Stephen Bigelow

"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?

Yes.
Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
blacksmiths shop.

Stephen Bigelow

"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?

Yes.
Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
blacksmiths shop.

Stephen Bigelow

"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?

Yes.
Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
blacksmiths shop.

Stephen Bigelow

"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?

Yes.
Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
blacksmiths shop.

Misti Norton

"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
newsDYHb.207041$ea%.76985@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
> cam
> > with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> > 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner
> > than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
quite
> > early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> > initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Yes.
> Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
> blacksmiths shop.
>

I'm not sure thats what he meant. In the past, engines have not always been
precision engineered. On tanks made up until the 50s (in europe) and at
least the 70s (in russia) it wasn't unusual for a good pound or so of
shavings to be ground into the sump pans, due to roughly manufactured
engines. Its only in the last 7-8 years that precision CNc manufacturing has
made high precision mass manufacturing of engines possible. There was always
thermal expansion of the engine to worry about (unequal expansion etc) which
lead to more parts grond off. I know it was a problem even back in the mid
80's for cars, as we remmber taking the pile of shavings from the sump of a
vauxhall Cavalier (who's engine was made the same place ALL GM V6 engines
are made nowadays).

On a fianl note - surgeries are not THAT clean. Even an operating theatre is
only a class 100 clean room IIRC. an intel CPU plant for instance is about a
class 500 (and the satelite assembly suites at places like the JPL are many
magnitudes cleaner again. same with the level 4 labs at Fort Detrick or CDC.
Any place where yuo don't have to wear a full respirator, or Racal suit to
work, isn't that clean.

Misti Norton

"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
newsDYHb.207041$ea%.76985@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
> cam
> > with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> > 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner
> > than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
quite
> > early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> > initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Yes.
> Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
> blacksmiths shop.
>

I'm not sure thats what he meant. In the past, engines have not always been
precision engineered. On tanks made up until the 50s (in europe) and at
least the 70s (in russia) it wasn't unusual for a good pound or so of
shavings to be ground into the sump pans, due to roughly manufactured
engines. Its only in the last 7-8 years that precision CNc manufacturing has
made high precision mass manufacturing of engines possible. There was always
thermal expansion of the engine to worry about (unequal expansion etc) which
lead to more parts grond off. I know it was a problem even back in the mid
80's for cars, as we remmber taking the pile of shavings from the sump of a
vauxhall Cavalier (who's engine was made the same place ALL GM V6 engines
are made nowadays).

On a fianl note - surgeries are not THAT clean. Even an operating theatre is
only a class 100 clean room IIRC. an intel CPU plant for instance is about a
class 500 (and the satelite assembly suites at places like the JPL are many
magnitudes cleaner again. same with the level 4 labs at Fort Detrick or CDC.
Any place where yuo don't have to wear a full respirator, or Racal suit to
work, isn't that clean.

Misti Norton

"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
newsDYHb.207041$ea%.76985@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
> cam
> > with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> > 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner
> > than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
quite
> > early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> > initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Yes.
> Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
> blacksmiths shop.
>

I'm not sure thats what he meant. In the past, engines have not always been
precision engineered. On tanks made up until the 50s (in europe) and at
least the 70s (in russia) it wasn't unusual for a good pound or so of
shavings to be ground into the sump pans, due to roughly manufactured
engines. Its only in the last 7-8 years that precision CNc manufacturing has
made high precision mass manufacturing of engines possible. There was always
thermal expansion of the engine to worry about (unequal expansion etc) which
lead to more parts grond off. I know it was a problem even back in the mid
80's for cars, as we remmber taking the pile of shavings from the sump of a
vauxhall Cavalier (who's engine was made the same place ALL GM V6 engines
are made nowadays).

On a fianl note - surgeries are not THAT clean. Even an operating theatre is
only a class 100 clean room IIRC. an intel CPU plant for instance is about a
class 500 (and the satelite assembly suites at places like the JPL are many
magnitudes cleaner again. same with the level 4 labs at Fort Detrick or CDC.
Any place where yuo don't have to wear a full respirator, or Racal suit to
work, isn't that clean.

Misti Norton

"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message
newsDYHb.207041$ea%.76985@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
>
> "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
> cam
> > with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> > 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> sooner
> > than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
quite
> > early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> > initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Yes.
> Engine assembly rooms are as clean as surgeries, not as dirty as a
> blacksmiths shop.
>

I'm not sure thats what he meant. In the past, engines have not always been
precision engineered. On tanks made up until the 50s (in europe) and at
least the 70s (in russia) it wasn't unusual for a good pound or so of
shavings to be ground into the sump pans, due to roughly manufactured
engines. Its only in the last 7-8 years that precision CNc manufacturing has
made high precision mass manufacturing of engines possible. There was always
thermal expansion of the engine to worry about (unequal expansion etc) which
lead to more parts grond off. I know it was a problem even back in the mid
80's for cars, as we remmber taking the pile of shavings from the sump of a
vauxhall Cavalier (who's engine was made the same place ALL GM V6 engines
are made nowadays).

On a fianl note - surgeries are not THAT clean. Even an operating theatre is
only a class 100 clean room IIRC. an intel CPU plant for instance is about a
class 500 (and the satelite assembly suites at places like the JPL are many
magnitudes cleaner again. same with the level 4 labs at Fort Detrick or CDC.
Any place where yuo don't have to wear a full respirator, or Racal suit to
work, isn't that clean.

bearman

There is supposedly a break-in oil in the crankcase when you first get the
car. It needs to be there for the 7,500 miles. That was the case with my
2000 Odyssey.

But ask you dealer.

Bearman

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:mxYHb.229080$_M.1008668@attbi_s54...
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> > that cam with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> > at 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> > sooner than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> > quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> > might have initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
>
> I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service
department
> that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial
"break
> in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6
Accord).
>
>

bearman

There is supposedly a break-in oil in the crankcase when you first get the
car. It needs to be there for the 7,500 miles. That was the case with my
2000 Odyssey.

But ask you dealer.

Bearman

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:mxYHb.229080$_M.1008668@attbi_s54...
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> > that cam with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> > at 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> > sooner than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> > quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> > might have initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
>
> I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service
department
> that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial
"break
> in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6
Accord).
>
>