Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

There is supposedly a break-in oil in the crankcase when you first get the
car. It needs to be there for the 7,500 miles. That was the case with my
2000 Odyssey.

But ask you dealer.

Bearman

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:mxYHb.229080$_M.1008668@attbi_s54...
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> > that cam with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> > at 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> > sooner than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> > quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> > might have initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
>
> I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service
department
> that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial
"break
> in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6
Accord).
>
>

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

There is supposedly a break-in oil in the crankcase when you first get the
car. It needs to be there for the 7,500 miles. That was the case with my
2000 Odyssey.

But ask you dealer.

Bearman

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:mxYHb.229080$_M.1008668@attbi_s54...
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
> >
> > Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual
> > that cam with the car:
> >
> > It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving,
> > at 7,500 miles.
> >
> > Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
> > sooner than that.
> >
> > Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one
> > quite early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine
> > might have initially due to the mfg. process.
> >
> > Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
>
> I also thought this was high, but I am told by the local service
department
> that there are special additives in the original oil for the initial
"break
> in" period, and should not be changed before then (I also have a V6
Accord).
>
>

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Hi Bob,

You need to trust Honda and the owners manual. You're gonna hear allot of
opinions on oil changes, timing belts, and just about anything else from
people. Yes it's correct on the oil changing interval. Allot of people
(non Honda people) are gonna tell you otherwise. They're gonna tell you to
the 1st oil change should be at 600 miles or at 3000 or 3500. Then they're
gonna tell you 3000 miles between oil changes. I follow the severe driving
service interval documented in the owners manual as apposed to normal
driving interval. It's Hondas car and they wrote the service guide. It's
also Hondas warranty so they are gonna tell you what's best for the car.
The last thing Honda wants is to provide warranty service. Unless you have
a need to only have your car serviced at the Honda dealership I would find a
qualified ASE Honda/Acura service shop in your city i.e. the shop follows
Hondas service guides and uses Honda parts. Talk to the owners, get a tour
of the service bays and ask for references. There's no need to take the car
back to the Honda dealership for service unless it's warranty or recall
work. Qualified Honda shops will save you money on just about everything.
It will not void your warranty. I've had 8 Hondas dating back to 1977
everyone of them went over 150,000 miles and would've gone allot further had
I not wanted a newer Honda.

Cheers,

Rick



"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Hi Bob,

You need to trust Honda and the owners manual. You're gonna hear allot of
opinions on oil changes, timing belts, and just about anything else from
people. Yes it's correct on the oil changing interval. Allot of people
(non Honda people) are gonna tell you otherwise. They're gonna tell you to
the 1st oil change should be at 600 miles or at 3000 or 3500. Then they're
gonna tell you 3000 miles between oil changes. I follow the severe driving
service interval documented in the owners manual as apposed to normal
driving interval. It's Hondas car and they wrote the service guide. It's
also Hondas warranty so they are gonna tell you what's best for the car.
The last thing Honda wants is to provide warranty service. Unless you have
a need to only have your car serviced at the Honda dealership I would find a
qualified ASE Honda/Acura service shop in your city i.e. the shop follows
Hondas service guides and uses Honda parts. Talk to the owners, get a tour
of the service bays and ask for references. There's no need to take the car
back to the Honda dealership for service unless it's warranty or recall
work. Qualified Honda shops will save you money on just about everything.
It will not void your warranty. I've had 8 Hondas dating back to 1977
everyone of them went over 150,000 miles and would've gone allot further had
I not wanted a newer Honda.

Cheers,

Rick



"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Hi Bob,

You need to trust Honda and the owners manual. You're gonna hear allot of
opinions on oil changes, timing belts, and just about anything else from
people. Yes it's correct on the oil changing interval. Allot of people
(non Honda people) are gonna tell you otherwise. They're gonna tell you to
the 1st oil change should be at 600 miles or at 3000 or 3500. Then they're
gonna tell you 3000 miles between oil changes. I follow the severe driving
service interval documented in the owners manual as apposed to normal
driving interval. It's Hondas car and they wrote the service guide. It's
also Hondas warranty so they are gonna tell you what's best for the car.
The last thing Honda wants is to provide warranty service. Unless you have
a need to only have your car serviced at the Honda dealership I would find a
qualified ASE Honda/Acura service shop in your city i.e. the shop follows
Hondas service guides and uses Honda parts. Talk to the owners, get a tour
of the service bays and ask for references. There's no need to take the car
back to the Honda dealership for service unless it's warranty or recall
work. Qualified Honda shops will save you money on just about everything.
It will not void your warranty. I've had 8 Hondas dating back to 1977
everyone of them went over 150,000 miles and would've gone allot further had
I not wanted a newer Honda.

Cheers,

Rick



"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Hi Bob,

You need to trust Honda and the owners manual. You're gonna hear allot of
opinions on oil changes, timing belts, and just about anything else from
people. Yes it's correct on the oil changing interval. Allot of people
(non Honda people) are gonna tell you otherwise. They're gonna tell you to
the 1st oil change should be at 600 miles or at 3000 or 3500. Then they're
gonna tell you 3000 miles between oil changes. I follow the severe driving
service interval documented in the owners manual as apposed to normal
driving interval. It's Hondas car and they wrote the service guide. It's
also Hondas warranty so they are gonna tell you what's best for the car.
The last thing Honda wants is to provide warranty service. Unless you have
a need to only have your car serviced at the Honda dealership I would find a
qualified ASE Honda/Acura service shop in your city i.e. the shop follows
Hondas service guides and uses Honda parts. Talk to the owners, get a tour
of the service bays and ask for references. There's no need to take the car
back to the Honda dealership for service unless it's warranty or recall
work. Qualified Honda shops will save you money on just about everything.
It will not void your warranty. I've had 8 Hondas dating back to 1977
everyone of them went over 150,000 miles and would've gone allot further had
I not wanted a newer Honda.

Cheers,

Rick



"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:38:24 -0500, "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net>
wrote:
>It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
>7,500 miles.
>
>Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much sooner
>than that.

These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
car. Could be true, for all I know.

The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
instead of 10,000.

Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.

J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:38:24 -0500, "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net>
wrote:
>It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
>7,500 miles.
>
>Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much sooner
>than that.

These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
car. Could be true, for all I know.

The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
instead of 10,000.

Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.

J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:38:24 -0500, "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net>
wrote:
>It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
>7,500 miles.
>
>Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much sooner
>than that.

These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
car. Could be true, for all I know.

The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
instead of 10,000.

Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.

J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:38:24 -0500, "Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net>
wrote:
>It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
>7,500 miles.
>
>Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much sooner
>than that.

These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
car. Could be true, for all I know.

The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
instead of 10,000.

Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.

J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Aluminum block engines (properly designed) were harder than
steel. Lapping processes even on the 1970 Chevy Vega was so
good that after 120,000 miles, there was no ridge to ream when
removing a piston (ridge - the little part at top of block
that does not get scrapped by piston rings - and therefore had
to be cut off on those softer, faster wearing, steel block
engines).

Iron block engines were smoothed by piston rings resulting
in contaminated oil. Aluminum block engines are finished in
the factory - nothing to quickly contaminate the oil.

As for all that contamination in the bottom of a GM engine
of those days: monetary costs and not vehicle reliability
decided how much ended up inside the sump. Its not about high
tech. Its about whether the top guy even drives.

JXStern wrote:
> These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
> claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
> car. Could be true, for all I know.
>
> The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
> described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
> severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
> instead of 10,000.
>
> Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.
>
> J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Aluminum block engines (properly designed) were harder than
steel. Lapping processes even on the 1970 Chevy Vega was so
good that after 120,000 miles, there was no ridge to ream when
removing a piston (ridge - the little part at top of block
that does not get scrapped by piston rings - and therefore had
to be cut off on those softer, faster wearing, steel block
engines).

Iron block engines were smoothed by piston rings resulting
in contaminated oil. Aluminum block engines are finished in
the factory - nothing to quickly contaminate the oil.

As for all that contamination in the bottom of a GM engine
of those days: monetary costs and not vehicle reliability
decided how much ended up inside the sump. Its not about high
tech. Its about whether the top guy even drives.

JXStern wrote:
> These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
> claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
> car. Could be true, for all I know.
>
> The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
> described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
> severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
> instead of 10,000.
>
> Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.
>
> J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Aluminum block engines (properly designed) were harder than
steel. Lapping processes even on the 1970 Chevy Vega was so
good that after 120,000 miles, there was no ridge to ream when
removing a piston (ridge - the little part at top of block
that does not get scrapped by piston rings - and therefore had
to be cut off on those softer, faster wearing, steel block
engines).

Iron block engines were smoothed by piston rings resulting
in contaminated oil. Aluminum block engines are finished in
the factory - nothing to quickly contaminate the oil.

As for all that contamination in the bottom of a GM engine
of those days: monetary costs and not vehicle reliability
decided how much ended up inside the sump. Its not about high
tech. Its about whether the top guy even drives.

JXStern wrote:
> These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
> claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
> car. Could be true, for all I know.
>
> The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
> described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
> severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
> instead of 10,000.
>
> Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.
>
> J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

Aluminum block engines (properly designed) were harder than
steel. Lapping processes even on the 1970 Chevy Vega was so
good that after 120,000 miles, there was no ridge to ream when
removing a piston (ridge - the little part at top of block
that does not get scrapped by piston rings - and therefore had
to be cut off on those softer, faster wearing, steel block
engines).

Iron block engines were smoothed by piston rings resulting
in contaminated oil. Aluminum block engines are finished in
the factory - nothing to quickly contaminate the oil.

As for all that contamination in the bottom of a GM engine
of those days: monetary costs and not vehicle reliability
decided how much ended up inside the sump. Its not about high
tech. Its about whether the top guy even drives.

JXStern wrote:
> These aluminum-block, no-liner engines are just high tech. Dealer
> claims they do the basic break-in before they drop the engine into the
> car. Could be true, for all I know.
>
> The new 4 cyl cars have two different schedules, normal and severe,
> described in the handbook. Dealer recommended that city driving means
> severe, so I should have my first oil change at *only* 5,000 miles,
> instead of 10,000.
>
> Wow. This ain't my grandfather's Honda.
>
> J.

Re: New Accord: First Oil Change Question ?
 

You should take your car to the dealer. Only they have the knowledge to
answer this question correctly.

"Robert11" <rgsxrose@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gPOdndLyjOCS122iRVn-hw@comcast.com...
> Hello:
>
> Have a new Accord, 6 cyl., LX.
>
> Was wondering about the oil change interval stated in their manual that
cam
> with the car:
>
> It shows that the first one for a 6 cyl. is due, for normal driving, at
> 7,500 miles.
>
> Really surprised; would have thought that the first one would be much
sooner
> than that.
>
> Remember in the "old" days, they always seemed to want the first one quite
> early so as to remove any grit, crud, etc. that the engine might have
> initially due to the mfg. process.
>
> Is 7,500 for the first correct ?
>
> Any thoughts on ?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>