Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:54:34 +0000, E Meyer wrote:

>> Thanks for your opinion. I find it a useful feature, whether you do or
>> not.

> I'm curious - what do you find useful about it?

As some others have already explained some of the reasons, I'll just add
one more. I said in my original post that it was my daughter's car, she's
a college student, and it makes me feel safer knowing her doors are
locked, even if she doesn't always think to lock them (manually).

> As near as I can tell, all it does is force the emergency response team
> to have to break into the car to get you out after the crash.

I suppose that could happen, but thinking like that, you had better not
even go out the front door of the house. You might get hit by a bus.

As for breaking into the car, it's not very difficult to break a window,
especially for well-equipped emergency personnel.


--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:18:08 -0500, wrote:

> I love it... an owner with an attitude !! Dare anyone say something
> he doesn't like.

Whatever. It's notable that you snipped the entire post, and don't bother
actually addressing anything. Was there something inaccurate or wrong
about my points?

Didn't think so.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:18:08 -0500, wrote:

> I love it... an owner with an attitude !! Dare anyone say something
> he doesn't like.

Whatever. It's notable that you snipped the entire post, and don't bother
actually addressing anything. Was there something inaccurate or wrong
about my points?

Didn't think so.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:18:08 -0500, wrote:

> I love it... an owner with an attitude !! Dare anyone say something
> he doesn't like.

Whatever. It's notable that you snipped the entire post, and don't bother
actually addressing anything. Was there something inaccurate or wrong
about my points?

Didn't think so.

--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:11:49 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

>> It's not there. If you're gonna make smart-ass replies, be sure you're
>> right first, so you don't look like a fool in public.

> You're doing a fine job of coming off as a class "A" fool, yourself.

Why do you think that? Seriously.

Do you think his smart-ass answer to me was entirely OK?


--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:11:49 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

>> It's not there. If you're gonna make smart-ass replies, be sure you're
>> right first, so you don't look like a fool in public.

> You're doing a fine job of coming off as a class "A" fool, yourself.

Why do you think that? Seriously.

Do you think his smart-ass answer to me was entirely OK?


--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:11:49 +0000, Brian Smith wrote:

>> It's not there. If you're gonna make smart-ass replies, be sure you're
>> right first, so you don't look like a fool in public.

> You're doing a fine job of coming off as a class "A" fool, yourself.

Why do you think that? Seriously.

Do you think his smart-ass answer to me was entirely OK?


--
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Re: New Honda owner
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.07.14.22.07.28.495892@lan.invalid...
>
> As for breaking into the car, it's not very difficult to break a window,
> especially for well-equipped emergency personnel.
>

I am one of those pathetically prepared people who are always mindful of
such things. I am aware that I rarely carry anything that can break a car
window, although if I have no alternative I have a small pocketknife that
would have an outside chance if I hit hard enough near an edge. Tempered
glass is amazingly tough.

It is really only an issue in fires and potential fires, since the other
crisis - submersion - requires a window to be opened before a door can be
opened anyway. For other accidents it is almost always better to leave
everybody where they are and protect the scene until the pros get there.
Moving accident victims gives me the shivers.

Mike

Re: New Honda owner
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.07.14.22.07.28.495892@lan.invalid...
>
> As for breaking into the car, it's not very difficult to break a window,
> especially for well-equipped emergency personnel.
>

I am one of those pathetically prepared people who are always mindful of
such things. I am aware that I rarely carry anything that can break a car
window, although if I have no alternative I have a small pocketknife that
would have an outside chance if I hit hard enough near an edge. Tempered
glass is amazingly tough.

It is really only an issue in fires and potential fires, since the other
crisis - submersion - requires a window to be opened before a door can be
opened anyway. For other accidents it is almost always better to leave
everybody where they are and protect the scene until the pros get there.
Moving accident victims gives me the shivers.

Mike

Re: New Honda owner
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.07.14.22.07.28.495892@lan.invalid...
>
> As for breaking into the car, it's not very difficult to break a window,
> especially for well-equipped emergency personnel.
>

I am one of those pathetically prepared people who are always mindful of
such things. I am aware that I rarely carry anything that can break a car
window, although if I have no alternative I have a small pocketknife that
would have an outside chance if I hit hard enough near an edge. Tempered
glass is amazingly tough.

It is really only an issue in fires and potential fires, since the other
crisis - submersion - requires a window to be opened before a door can be
opened anyway. For other accidents it is almost always better to leave
everybody where they are and protect the scene until the pros get there.
Moving accident victims gives me the shivers.

Mike

Re: New Honda owner
 

Dan C wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:29:26 -0400, Joe LaVigne wrote:
>
>>>> Did you think to look in the owner's manual?
>
>>> Yeah, I did.
>
>>>> It is there, but you have to set it...
>
>>> It's not there. If you're gonna make smart-ass replies, be sure you're
>>> right first, so you don't look like a fool in public.
>>> Thanks anyway.
>
>> Hey, look, you're just as much of an here as you are in the
>> Ubuntu
>> group... If you'd have bothered to look, I followed up directly to that
>> post, and was the only one here who tried to actually address your
>> question.
>
> Yep, I saw your second reply later, after I saw/replied to the first one.
> As for "addressing my question", you were completely wrong with your
> answer, so it doesn't count for much.
>
>> What a douche...
>
> Yeah. Namecalling. Who's the , again?

Past experience is clear on this, you are a clear winner here, Danny Boy...

Re: New Honda owner
 

Dan C wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:29:26 -0400, Joe LaVigne wrote:
>
>>>> Did you think to look in the owner's manual?
>
>>> Yeah, I did.
>
>>>> It is there, but you have to set it...
>
>>> It's not there. If you're gonna make smart-ass replies, be sure you're
>>> right first, so you don't look like a fool in public.
>>> Thanks anyway.
>
>> Hey, look, you're just as much of an here as you are in the
>> Ubuntu
>> group... If you'd have bothered to look, I followed up directly to that
>> post, and was the only one here who tried to actually address your
>> question.
>
> Yep, I saw your second reply later, after I saw/replied to the first one.
> As for "addressing my question", you were completely wrong with your
> answer, so it doesn't count for much.
>
>> What a douche...
>
> Yeah. Namecalling. Who's the , again?

Past experience is clear on this, you are a clear winner here, Danny Boy...

Re: New Honda owner
 

Dan C wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:29:26 -0400, Joe LaVigne wrote:
>
>>>> Did you think to look in the owner's manual?
>
>>> Yeah, I did.
>
>>>> It is there, but you have to set it...
>
>>> It's not there. If you're gonna make smart-ass replies, be sure you're
>>> right first, so you don't look like a fool in public.
>>> Thanks anyway.
>
>> Hey, look, you're just as much of an here as you are in the
>> Ubuntu
>> group... If you'd have bothered to look, I followed up directly to that
>> post, and was the only one here who tried to actually address your
>> question.
>
> Yep, I saw your second reply later, after I saw/replied to the first one.
> As for "addressing my question", you were completely wrong with your
> answer, so it doesn't count for much.
>
>> What a douche...
>
> Yeah. Namecalling. Who's the , again?

Past experience is clear on this, you are a clear winner here, Danny Boy...

Re: New Honda owner
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.07.14.03.05.09.605016@lan.invalid...
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:26:10 +0000, E Meyer wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, that is a American-mfr-only feature. Never encountered
>> it
>> on any Japanese cars. Personally, I find it irritating and useless. I
>> would spend some time researching how to disable it if it showed up on
>> any
>> of my cars.
>
> Thanks for your opinion. I find it a useful feature, whether you do or
> not.
>
> --
> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
>
=================
I test drove a Honda CRV 7-14-07 and it had that feature.
Bill

Re: New Honda owner
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.07.14.03.05.09.605016@lan.invalid...
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:26:10 +0000, E Meyer wrote:
>
>> As far as I know, that is a American-mfr-only feature. Never encountered
>> it
>> on any Japanese cars. Personally, I find it irritating and useless. I
>> would spend some time researching how to disable it if it showed up on
>> any
>> of my cars.
>
> Thanks for your opinion. I find it a useful feature, whether you do or
> not.
>
> --
> "Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
>
=================
I test drove a Honda CRV 7-14-07 and it had that feature.
Bill