Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>
wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its
actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx
>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>
wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its
actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx
>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>
wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its
actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx
>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. However
more importantly it typically comes from a tank which is very dry, so there
is very little moisture to condense or turn to steam inside the tire, or
corrode the rim. Air tanks filled with compressed air from a nearby
compressor have the moisture from the surrounding air within them.

"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-2411031148250001@pm1-broad-94.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it>
wrote:
>
> > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its
actually
> > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it?
> >
> > thnx
>
> Unless you plan to race your vehicle--don't do it. I don't think that most
> race car drivers would use nitrogen in their tires.

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat
> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium
> balloon
> > > after a week?
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat
> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium
> balloon
> > > after a week?
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat
> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium
> balloon
> > > after a week?
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

Hi there,

I'm currently using Nitrogen air on my Prelude tyres. It's owkay to top-up
the usual gas station's compressed air when low but ensure you do not fill
in more than 10% of the total air (tyre). True it doesn't expand as much
and would obviously seem more useful to a racing driver; however using
Nitrogen also helps prevent steering vibrations at higher speeds. At the
very least you wouldn't need to top-up air as regularly as the usual
compressed air. All the above is subjected to normal and occasionally
high-speed driving and not to be used under racing conditions.

Hope this helps,

Suman



On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Scott MacLean wrote:

> Yeah, those hydrogen filled tires and aftermarket bumper-mounted rocket
> boosters really don't go together very well.
>
> "Carl S. Moore" <carl.moore2@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Mjdwb.214416$mZ5.1613052@attbi_s54...
> > Good point. Hadn't thought about that. I was going to
> > use the helium after the hydrogen fills resulted in the loss
> > of my first car........
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:u87wb.796$dt2.95218@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Except helium atoms are much smaller - the tires will tend to go flat
> faster
> > > from helium leaching through the porous rubber. Ever seen a helium
> balloon
> > > after a week?
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
ideal gases)

-John

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
ideal gases)

-John

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.

Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
ideal gases)

-John

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

wow...I use exclusively methane in mine.....it's just a tad hard to pump
them up :-P
"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.
>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

wow...I use exclusively methane in mine.....it's just a tad hard to pump
them up :-P
"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.
>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

wow...I use exclusively methane in mine.....it's just a tad hard to pump
them up :-P
"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.
>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John

Re: Nitrogen Tires
 

I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it expands
less when heated. :)

"John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m...
> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message
news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ...
> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated.
>
> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of
> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts
> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for
> ideal gases)
>
> -John