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Re: Nitrogen Tires
I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it expands
less when heated. :) "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m... > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ... > > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. > > Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of > its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts > of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for > ideal gases) > > -John |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it expands
less when heated. :) "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m... > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ... > > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. > > Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of > its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts > of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for > ideal gases) > > -John |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:qLKwb.11062$dt2.721648@news20.bellglobal.com: > I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it > expands less when heated. :) > > "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m... >> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message > news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ... >> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. >> >> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of >> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts >> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for >> ideal gases) >> >> -John > > > Race teams use nitrogen because: 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no external power source like a compressor. 2.It's dry,contains no water. 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) 4.cost is less than other gases?? -- Jim Yanik,NRA member jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:qLKwb.11062$dt2.721648@news20.bellglobal.com: > I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it > expands less when heated. :) > > "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m... >> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message > news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ... >> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. >> >> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of >> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts >> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for >> ideal gases) >> >> -John > > > Race teams use nitrogen because: 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no external power source like a compressor. 2.It's dry,contains no water. 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) 4.cost is less than other gases?? -- Jim Yanik,NRA member jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
"Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in
news:qLKwb.11062$dt2.721648@news20.bellglobal.com: > I should clarify: Some race teams use nitrogen because they THINK it > expands less when heated. :) > > "John Ours" <johnours@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:a2a85e45.0311242027.179ea9f@posting.google.co m... >> "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message > news:<KUtwb.4566$Eq1.513388@news20.bellglobal.com> ... >> > Some race teams use nitrogen because it expands less when heated. >> >> Is this really true? The amount that a gas expands is independent of >> its composition. When heated to the same temperature, equal amounts >> of air and nitrogen will expand to the same pressure. (PV=NRT for >> ideal gases) >> >> -John > > > Race teams use nitrogen because: 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no external power source like a compressor. 2.It's dry,contains no water. 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) 4.cost is less than other gases?? -- Jim Yanik,NRA member jyanik-at-kua.net |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
> Race teams use nitrogen because:
> > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no > external power source like a compressor. > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > 4.cost is less than other gases?? The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1, you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for the Ferrari team. |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
> Race teams use nitrogen because:
> > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no > external power source like a compressor. > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > 4.cost is less than other gases?? The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1, you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for the Ferrari team. |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
> Race teams use nitrogen because:
> > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs no > external power source like a compressor. > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > 4.cost is less than other gases?? The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1, you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for the Ferrari team. |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
best ;) Sandro "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > Race teams use nitrogen because: > > > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs > no > > external power source like a compressor. > > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > > 4.cost is less than other gases?? > > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1, > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for > the Ferrari team. > > |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
best ;) Sandro "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > Race teams use nitrogen because: > > > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs > no > > external power source like a compressor. > > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > > 4.cost is less than other gases?? > > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1, > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for > the Ferrari team. > > |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the
best ;) Sandro "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > Race teams use nitrogen because: > > > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs > no > > external power source like a compressor. > > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > > 4.cost is less than other gases?? > > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason #1, > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for > the Ferrari team. > > |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
Actually, we won the CASC GTA championship this year, so we must be doing
something right. :) http://www.casc.on.ca/RACE-PS.asp "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message news:3fc59a71$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au... > maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the > best > ;) > > Sandro > > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message > news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > > Race teams use nitrogen because: > > > > > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs > > no > > > external power source like a compressor. > > > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > > > 4.cost is less than other gases?? > > > > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the > > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason > #1, > > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, > > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for > > the Ferrari team. > > > > > > |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
Actually, we won the CASC GTA championship this year, so we must be doing
something right. :) http://www.casc.on.ca/RACE-PS.asp "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message news:3fc59a71$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au... > maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the > best > ;) > > Sandro > > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message > news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > > Race teams use nitrogen because: > > > > > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs > > no > > > external power source like a compressor. > > > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > > > 4.cost is less than other gases?? > > > > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the > > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason > #1, > > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, > > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for > > the Ferrari team. > > > > > > |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
Actually, we won the CASC GTA championship this year, so we must be doing
something right. :) http://www.casc.on.ca/RACE-PS.asp "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message news:3fc59a71$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au... > maybe thats why they r the best, u should put nitrogen then u will be the > best > ;) > > Sandro > > "Scott MacLean" <scottNO@SPAMnerosoft.com> wrote in message > news:Yh4xb.14442$dt2.1029459@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > > Race teams use nitrogen because: > > > > > > 1.it comes in a nice pressurized tank,easy to move to the pit area,needs > > no > > > external power source like a compressor. > > > 2.It's dry,contains no water. > > > 3.Possible thermal considerations.(Heat -conduction-,not expansion) > > > 4.cost is less than other gases?? > > > > The race team I crew on, we use a pressurized tank that is filled from the > > same compressor in the trailer that runs the air tools - for your reason > #1, > > you can take it to the pits. Regular old air. Costs less than nitrogen, > > that's for sure. :) In fact, I don't see anyone using nitrogen, except for > > the Ferrari team. > > > > > > |
Re: Nitrogen Tires
Yes Yes & Yes
But the cost & effort seem hardly worth the effort. Pete "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.it> wrote in message news:3fc05fd3_1@news.iprimus.com.au... > hi, i heard that its possible to put nitrogen in the tires and its actually > better than having air. is this true and would u recommend it? > > thnx > > |
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