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amsjsj 02-18-2004 09:50 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
thanks guys for the help.

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the car
> and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is at.
> Why is this? Or is it normal?
>
>




electricked 02-18-2004 10:28 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.

--Viktor

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-18-2004 10:28 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.

--Viktor

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-18-2004 10:28 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yeah, it's normal. I have the same sound on my 98 accord. It's a relay that
switches on and off depending if you're holding the pedal up or down and
works in the way the previous poster described. You can even open it up and
see exactly where the relay is (relay is an elecromagnetic switch). Kind of
like a transistor but it uses different principles to switch on/off.

--Viktor

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UtTYb.4555$iB.775@lakeread06...
> no i had it for awhile i also put a different gear shifter on it. But i
> noticed it for awhile but wasnt sure if its normal. Like i said i tap the
> brake pedal and sounds like somewthings hitting that stick but you sound
> right.
> "Sean D" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
> news:bcTYb.99826$IF6.2899932@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > You're hearing the shift release. That is the mechanism that prevent

you
> > from shifting out of park without having the break pedal pressed. I've
> > heard that sounds on older accords before. As far as being normal

though,
> > I'm not sure. Did you just buy the car and are wondering about the

sound
> or
> > did it just sounds making it?
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:lYSYb.4546$iB.1718@lakeread06...
> > > I have a an 96 accord lx non vtec, automatic. When I put my key in the

> car
> > > and tap on the brakes theres a clicking sound in where the shifter is

> at.
> > > Why is this? Or is it normal?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 01:19 AM

Re: is this normal?
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.


Same thing.

--Viktor



electricked 02-19-2004 01:19 AM

Re: is this normal?
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.


Same thing.

--Viktor



electricked 02-19-2004 01:19 AM

Re: is this normal?
 
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.


Same thing.

--Viktor



Dave Dodson 02-19-2004 05:09 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

>
> Same thing.
>
> --Viktor

No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
(relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
(such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
picayune but there is a difference.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>




Dave Dodson 02-19-2004 05:09 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

>
> Same thing.
>
> --Viktor

No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
(relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
(such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
picayune but there is a difference.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>




Dave Dodson 02-19-2004 05:09 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

>
> Same thing.
>
> --Viktor

No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
(relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
(such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
picayune but there is a difference.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 06:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the same.
They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
about solenoids.

--Viktor

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:10392qg5nu4dj32@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
> news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

> >
> > Same thing.
> >
> > --Viktor

> No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
> (relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
> definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
> (such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
> perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
> picayune but there is a difference.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 06:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the same.
They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
about solenoids.

--Viktor

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:10392qg5nu4dj32@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
> news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

> >
> > Same thing.
> >
> > --Viktor

> No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
> (relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
> definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
> (such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
> perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
> picayune but there is a difference.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >

>
>




electricked 02-19-2004 06:12 PM

Re: is this normal?
 
Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the same.
They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
about solenoids.

--Viktor

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message
news:10392qg5nu4dj32@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> "electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
> news:JYOdna4qt87WpKndRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:40341D0D.E78DAF11@junkmail.com...
> > > It is actually a solenoid, not a relay.

> >
> > Same thing.
> >
> > --Viktor

> No, Viktor, they are not the same thing. A switch can be either mechanical
> (relay) or purely electrical (as some transistors are) but a solenoid (by
> definition) must incorporate both an electrical and a mechanical component
> (such as the actuating mechanism on an auto starter). I agree that both
> perform the same basic function and that the difference is really rather
> picayune but there is a difference.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >

>
>




Dave Dodson 02-20-2004 02:52 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:bNednb1wDu4Du6jdRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the

same.
> They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
> different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
> mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
> about solenoids.
>
> --Viktor

From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you meant
but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning). I am
sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid interchangable
rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
important. Keep up the good work.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!



Dave Dodson 02-20-2004 02:52 AM

Re: is this normal?
 


"electricked" <no_emails_please> wrote in message
news:bNednb1wDu4Du6jdRVn-vg@comcast.com...
> Yes, Dave. I agree. I meant it in terms of practical use they are the

same.
> They both do the same thing. Of course their mechanisms are a little
> different but that's not important for this discussion. The reason I
> mentioned relay is because most people know more about relays than they do
> about solenoids.
>
> --Viktor

From your other posts, Viktor, I was fairly certain that was what you meant
but I thought I would get a kinder, gentler disagreement put in before
certain others here attacked with vigor! (Hehe, if you get my meaning). I am
sure that more are familiar with relays than solenoids (or at least they
think they are) because they use the term relay and solenoid interchangable
rather than correctly but you are correct in the fact that the technical
correct term should take second place to the function as that is what is
important. Keep up the good work.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!




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