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Oso 02-11-2004 12:45 AM

Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.

My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.

Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.

I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.

I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
walking to college.

thanks for any help anyone can provide.

Bob



electricked 02-11-2004 03:19 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I think it's a ripoff. If they replaced the ECU and it's still happening
then it is a charging system problem. Could be the alternator/voltage
regulator the gives off too much current thus blowing the fuse. I don't have
much expertise in this area so I might be wrong in this. Let's wait for
others' input.

--Viktor

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




electricked 02-11-2004 03:19 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I think it's a ripoff. If they replaced the ECU and it's still happening
then it is a charging system problem. Could be the alternator/voltage
regulator the gives off too much current thus blowing the fuse. I don't have
much expertise in this area so I might be wrong in this. Let's wait for
others' input.

--Viktor

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




electricked 02-11-2004 03:19 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I think it's a ripoff. If they replaced the ECU and it's still happening
then it is a charging system problem. Could be the alternator/voltage
regulator the gives off too much current thus blowing the fuse. I don't have
much expertise in this area so I might be wrong in this. Let's wait for
others' input.

--Viktor

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




electricked 02-11-2004 03:19 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I think it's a ripoff. If they replaced the ECU and it's still happening
then it is a charging system problem. Could be the alternator/voltage
regulator the gives off too much current thus blowing the fuse. I don't have
much expertise in this area so I might be wrong in this. Let's wait for
others' input.

--Viktor

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




R Thompson 02-11-2004 06:50 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:

Fuse 5, 50A ignition
Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay

Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
look next.

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




R Thompson 02-11-2004 06:50 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:

Fuse 5, 50A ignition
Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay

Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
look next.

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




R Thompson 02-11-2004 06:50 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:

Fuse 5, 50A ignition
Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay

Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
look next.

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




R Thompson 02-11-2004 06:50 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:

Fuse 5, 50A ignition
Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay

Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
look next.

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com...
> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob
>
>




Oso 02-11-2004 08:20 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Thanks for the possibilities.

I just e-mailed your possibilities to her and asked her to have the
neighbor help her determine which fuse it is. Probably be this
evening or tomorrow morning for a reply.

Thanks for helping.

Bob



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:25 GMT, "R Thompson"
<rthomps9@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

>Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:
>
>Fuse 5, 50A ignition
>Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
>Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay
>
>Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
>look next.
>
>"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com.. .
>> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>>
>> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
>> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
>> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>>
>> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
>> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
>> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
>> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
>> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
>> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
>> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
>> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>>
>> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
>> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
>> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
>> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>>
>> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
>> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
>> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
>> walking to college.
>>
>> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>

>



Oso 02-11-2004 08:20 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Thanks for the possibilities.

I just e-mailed your possibilities to her and asked her to have the
neighbor help her determine which fuse it is. Probably be this
evening or tomorrow morning for a reply.

Thanks for helping.

Bob



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:25 GMT, "R Thompson"
<rthomps9@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

>Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:
>
>Fuse 5, 50A ignition
>Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
>Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay
>
>Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
>look next.
>
>"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com.. .
>> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>>
>> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
>> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
>> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>>
>> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
>> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
>> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
>> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
>> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
>> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
>> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
>> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>>
>> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
>> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
>> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
>> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>>
>> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
>> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
>> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
>> walking to college.
>>
>> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>

>



Oso 02-11-2004 08:20 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Thanks for the possibilities.

I just e-mailed your possibilities to her and asked her to have the
neighbor help her determine which fuse it is. Probably be this
evening or tomorrow morning for a reply.

Thanks for helping.

Bob



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:25 GMT, "R Thompson"
<rthomps9@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

>Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:
>
>Fuse 5, 50A ignition
>Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
>Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay
>
>Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
>look next.
>
>"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com.. .
>> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>>
>> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
>> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
>> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>>
>> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
>> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
>> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
>> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
>> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
>> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
>> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
>> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>>
>> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
>> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
>> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
>> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>>
>> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
>> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
>> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
>> walking to college.
>>
>> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>

>



Oso 02-11-2004 08:20 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Thanks for the possibilities.

I just e-mailed your possibilities to her and asked her to have the
neighbor help her determine which fuse it is. Probably be this
evening or tomorrow morning for a reply.

Thanks for helping.

Bob



On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:50:25 GMT, "R Thompson"
<rthomps9@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

>Depends on what fuse they're referring to. Here are the possibilities:
>
>Fuse 5, 50A ignition
>Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
>Fuse 13, 15A PGM FI main relay
>
>Without knowing which fuse is going, it's hard to make a call on where to
>look next.
>
>"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com.. .
>> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>>
>> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
>> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
>> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>>
>> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
>> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
>> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
>> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
>> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
>> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
>> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
>> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>>
>> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
>> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
>> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
>> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>>
>> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
>> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
>> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
>> walking to college.
>>
>> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>

>



Randolph 02-11-2004 11:56 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
> Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.

After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
is on.

The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.

That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
stranded.

Randolph 02-11-2004 11:56 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
> Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.

After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
is on.

The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.

That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
stranded.


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