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Randolph 02-11-2004 11:56 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
> Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.

After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
is on.

The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.

That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
stranded.

Randolph 02-11-2004 11:56 AM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
> Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.

After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
is on.

The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.

That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
stranded.

J M 02-11-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
newsgroup.


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>
> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>
> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> is on.
>
> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>
> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> stranded.




J M 02-11-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
newsgroup.


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>
> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>
> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> is on.
>
> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>
> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> stranded.




J M 02-11-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
newsgroup.


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>
> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>
> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> is on.
>
> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>
> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> stranded.




J M 02-11-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
newsgroup.


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>
> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>
> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> is on.
>
> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>
> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> stranded.




Oso 02-11-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.

What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
fuse in question?

Bob

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:

>Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
>newsgroup.
>
>
>"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
>news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
>> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>>
>> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
>> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
>> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
>> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
>> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>>
>> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
>> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
>> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
>> is on.
>>
>> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
>> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
>> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
>> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
>> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
>> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>>
>> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
>> stranded.

>



Oso 02-11-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.

What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
fuse in question?

Bob

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:

>Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
>newsgroup.
>
>
>"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
>news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
>> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>>
>> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
>> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
>> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
>> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
>> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>>
>> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
>> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
>> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
>> is on.
>>
>> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
>> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
>> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
>> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
>> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
>> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>>
>> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
>> stranded.

>



Oso 02-11-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.

What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
fuse in question?

Bob

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:

>Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
>newsgroup.
>
>
>"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
>news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
>> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>>
>> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
>> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
>> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
>> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
>> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>>
>> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
>> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
>> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
>> is on.
>>
>> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
>> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
>> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
>> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
>> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
>> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>>
>> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
>> stranded.

>



Oso 02-11-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.

What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
fuse in question?

Bob

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:

>Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
>newsgroup.
>
>
>"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
>news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
>> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod

>>
>> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
>> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
>> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It draws
>> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
>> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the ignition.
>>
>> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
>> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
>> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
>> is on.
>>
>> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
>> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
>> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
>> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
>> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
>> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
>>
>> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
>> stranded.

>



J M 02-11-2004 07:47 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
That would be an excellent start. If she brings it in again, you should
have her call you before she has anything else "fixed".

--John

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:task20p51p1bd9n1nm10q50bmkuu12iel2@4ax.com...
> I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.
>
> What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
> fuse in question?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:
>
> >Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
> >newsgroup.
> >
> >
> >"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> >> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
> >>
> >> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> >> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> >> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It

draws
> >> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> >> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the

ignition.
> >>
> >> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> >> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> >> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> >> is on.
> >>
> >> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> >> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> >> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> >> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> >> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> >> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
> >>
> >> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> >> stranded.

> >

>




J M 02-11-2004 07:47 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
That would be an excellent start. If she brings it in again, you should
have her call you before she has anything else "fixed".

--John

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:task20p51p1bd9n1nm10q50bmkuu12iel2@4ax.com...
> I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.
>
> What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
> fuse in question?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:
>
> >Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
> >newsgroup.
> >
> >
> >"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> >> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
> >>
> >> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> >> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> >> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It

draws
> >> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> >> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the

ignition.
> >>
> >> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> >> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> >> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> >> is on.
> >>
> >> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> >> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> >> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> >> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> >> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> >> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
> >>
> >> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> >> stranded.

> >

>




J M 02-11-2004 07:47 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
That would be an excellent start. If she brings it in again, you should
have her call you before she has anything else "fixed".

--John

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:task20p51p1bd9n1nm10q50bmkuu12iel2@4ax.com...
> I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.
>
> What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
> fuse in question?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:
>
> >Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
> >newsgroup.
> >
> >
> >"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> >> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
> >>
> >> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> >> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> >> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It

draws
> >> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> >> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the

ignition.
> >>
> >> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> >> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> >> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> >> is on.
> >>
> >> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> >> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> >> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> >> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> >> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> >> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
> >>
> >> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> >> stranded.

> >

>




J M 02-11-2004 07:47 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
That would be an excellent start. If she brings it in again, you should
have her call you before she has anything else "fixed".

--John

"Oso" <oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:task20p51p1bd9n1nm10q50bmkuu12iel2@4ax.com...
> I can try for a picture, hopefully she has a camera or can borrow one.
>
> What should she take a picture of? The fuse box and pointing to the
> fuse in question?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:39:30 GMT, "J M" <noonehome@nothing.net> wrote:
>
> >Have her take a picture if she can. Get it digital and send it to the
> >newsgroup.
> >
> >
> >"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:402A5F3A.29E23269@junkmail.com...
> >> > Fuse 10, 7.5A radio backup, clock, ECM, trans control mod
> >>
> >> One thought in that regard: The factory stereo gets constant voltage
> >> through the 7.5A fuse mentioned above and this voltage is used only for
> >> keeping alive the memory (for radio presets etc.) in the radio. It

draws
> >> miiliamps (or even microamps) only through this fuse. Power to actually
> >> run the stereo comes from a different circuit, switched by the

ignition.
> >>
> >> After-market stereos also have two power leads, one switched and one
> >> constant, except the power to run the unit comes from the constant
> >> circuit. The ignition switched wire is only used to sense that ignition
> >> is on.
> >>
> >> The way have have seen stereo installers work, they simply plug an
> >> adapter cable between the factory stereo harness and the new
> >> after-market stereo. Now you are suddenly pulling power to run the
> >> stereo through the 7.5A ECU-backup fuse. (Stereos typically have a 10 A
> >> fuse on the back). If you have a fairly powerful after-market stereo
> >> hooked up this way, that could easily blow the ECU fuse.
> >>
> >> That said, I am not convinced that a blown ECU fuse would leave you
> >> stranded.

> >

>




T. Nelson 02-12-2004 04:20 PM

Re: Odd problem on 1995 Honda Accord
 
In article <dtfj20d5sd348auhn01dijssm2euct53js@4ax.com>, Oso
<oso_bob@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all, just wondering if anyone can shed some light on a problem.
>
> My niece lives in another state and she is only 19. Her 1995 Honda
> Accord is acting up and there is nobody there to help her except an
> old neighbor man that knows nothing about cars.
>
> Her situation is that her car would not start. The neighbor checked
> the fuses and found a blown fuse under the hood. He replace it and
> the car started. It happened a second time so he replaced it again
> and then they took it to a mechanic shop. The mechanic said the
> electronic module was bad so they had it replaced. The next day the
> car would not start again. The neighbor replaced the same fuse and
> they took it back to the mechanic. Now they say it is a transmission
> fuse that is blowing and it will cost $500 to fix.
>
> I am over 1000 miles away and don't know that I could figure this out
> if I were there. So, I come to you people to ask for input. Anyone
> ever heard of a transmission fuse? The neighbor does not know what
> the fuse operates that he keeps finding blown.
>
> I am afraid the shop is trying to take advantage of her because she
> immediately told them "I know nothing about cars." We will talk about
> that statement later but for now we need to get her driving instead of
> walking to college.
>
> thanks for any help anyone can provide.
>
> Bob


Bob,
I am sorry that you are having this problem. I don't believe there is any
fuse in any Honda car that cost $500.00. I believe the mechanic may be
trying to rip you or your niece off. I don't usually encourage people to
go to Honda dealerships for service since they charge more than local
mechanics for the same work. However, if you don't know the reputation of
any local mechanics like in this case--the best thing to do is to go to a
Honda dealership. Therefore, I suggest that you tell your niece to take
the car to the local Honda dealership and have them figure out what is
wrong with the car. You may want to have your neice call you after they
come up with an estimate. Please tell us what the Honda mechanics have to
say once you find out.


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