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Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7qi8p25t1lgdhuvqc4dd68hjrvarcmjc6p@4ax.com... > > The best way to check is to use the mile markers on the interstate > highways. > I'm so used to the markers here in Arizona I forget not all states have them. I know California doesn't. Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular
paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from the air. Randy On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:02:43 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote: > "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:7qi8p25t1lgdhuvqc4dd68hjrvarcmjc6p@4ax.com... >> >> The best way to check is to use the mile markers on the interstate >> highways. >> > > I'm so used to the markers here in Arizona I forget not all states have > them. I know California doesn't. > > Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular
paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from the air. Randy On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:02:43 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote: > "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:7qi8p25t1lgdhuvqc4dd68hjrvarcmjc6p@4ax.com... >> >> The best way to check is to use the mile markers on the interstate >> highways. >> > > I'm so used to the markers here in Arizona I forget not all states have > them. I know California doesn't. > > Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular
paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from the air. Randy On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:02:43 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote: > "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:7qi8p25t1lgdhuvqc4dd68hjrvarcmjc6p@4ax.com... >> >> The best way to check is to use the mile markers on the interstate >> highways. >> > > I'm so used to the markers here in Arizona I forget not all states have > them. I know California doesn't. > > Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular
paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from the air. Randy On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:02:43 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote: > "Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:7qi8p25t1lgdhuvqc4dd68hjrvarcmjc6p@4ax.com... >> >> The best way to check is to use the mile markers on the interstate >> highways. >> > > I'm so used to the markers here in Arizona I forget not all states have > them. I know California doesn't. > > Mike |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:20:47 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote:
> <stilllost@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:c877p2phbsus97itu4suej4jd26rb8f42i@4ax.com... >> I've noticed when I pass through the school or police van radars my >> 2000 Ody shows about 2-3 mph below what my speedometer is showing. As >> an aside, this is a replacement unit, because my first one blew (quit) >> during the warranty period. >> > Interestingly, that's what I've seen in all the modern cars and trucks I've > driven the last few years. 2 mph conservative at low speeds, 3 (sometimes 4) > mph at highway speeds. > > Mike I was surprised at the accuracy on the speedo on my 06 Civic Si. When I pass through the police radar truck areas, I have never been more than 1 MPH off, at any speed range. In all of my past vehicles, they would be off by 1-2 at 30, and 3-4 at 60. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:20:47 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote:
> <stilllost@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:c877p2phbsus97itu4suej4jd26rb8f42i@4ax.com... >> I've noticed when I pass through the school or police van radars my >> 2000 Ody shows about 2-3 mph below what my speedometer is showing. As >> an aside, this is a replacement unit, because my first one blew (quit) >> during the warranty period. >> > Interestingly, that's what I've seen in all the modern cars and trucks I've > driven the last few years. 2 mph conservative at low speeds, 3 (sometimes 4) > mph at highway speeds. > > Mike I was surprised at the accuracy on the speedo on my 06 Civic Si. When I pass through the police radar truck areas, I have never been more than 1 MPH off, at any speed range. In all of my past vehicles, they would be off by 1-2 at 30, and 3-4 at 60. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:20:47 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote:
> <stilllost@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:c877p2phbsus97itu4suej4jd26rb8f42i@4ax.com... >> I've noticed when I pass through the school or police van radars my >> 2000 Ody shows about 2-3 mph below what my speedometer is showing. As >> an aside, this is a replacement unit, because my first one blew (quit) >> during the warranty period. >> > Interestingly, that's what I've seen in all the modern cars and trucks I've > driven the last few years. 2 mph conservative at low speeds, 3 (sometimes 4) > mph at highway speeds. > > Mike I was surprised at the accuracy on the speedo on my 06 Civic Si. When I pass through the police radar truck areas, I have never been more than 1 MPH off, at any speed range. In all of my past vehicles, they would be off by 1-2 at 30, and 3-4 at 60. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:20:47 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote:
> <stilllost@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:c877p2phbsus97itu4suej4jd26rb8f42i@4ax.com... >> I've noticed when I pass through the school or police van radars my >> 2000 Ody shows about 2-3 mph below what my speedometer is showing. As >> an aside, this is a replacement unit, because my first one blew (quit) >> during the warranty period. >> > Interestingly, that's what I've seen in all the modern cars and trucks I've > driven the last few years. 2 mph conservative at low speeds, 3 (sometimes 4) > mph at highway speeds. > > Mike I was surprised at the accuracy on the speedo on my 06 Civic Si. When I pass through the police radar truck areas, I have never been more than 1 MPH off, at any speed range. In all of my past vehicles, they would be off by 1-2 at 30, and 3-4 at 60. |
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"Randy" <rhunt960@tco.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.12.29.00.21.53.265625@tco.net... > Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular > paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are > post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a > large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 > miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from > the air. > > Randy > Thanks for the info! Mike |
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"Randy" <rhunt960@tco.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.12.29.00.21.53.265625@tco.net... > Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular > paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are > post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a > large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 > miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from > the air. > > Randy > Thanks for the info! Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"Randy" <rhunt960@tco.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.12.29.00.21.53.265625@tco.net... > Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular > paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are > post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a > large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 > miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from > the air. > > Randy > Thanks for the info! Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"Randy" <rhunt960@tco.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.12.29.00.21.53.265625@tco.net... > Yes California does! Take a look at those little white rectangular > paddles along to side of the road. The Large numbers on them are > post-miles. Also at certain markers that end in ##.00 there will be a > large white mark in the middle of the sideline stripe. These may be 5 > miles apart or less. This is so that the CHP can clock your speed from > the air. > > Randy > Thanks for the info! Mike |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Bill Radio wrote:
> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. |
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Bill Radio wrote:
> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. |
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Bill Radio wrote:
> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. |
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Bill Radio wrote:
> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... > Bill Radio wrote: > > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > > anyway. > > > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > > > Bill Radio > > > > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the > first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are > /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting higher mileage than is accurately on the car. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... > Bill Radio wrote: > > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > > anyway. > > > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > > > Bill Radio > > > > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the > first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are > /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting higher mileage than is accurately on the car. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... > Bill Radio wrote: > > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > > anyway. > > > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > > > Bill Radio > > > > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the > first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are > /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting higher mileage than is accurately on the car. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... > Bill Radio wrote: > > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will acheive > > Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is the > > most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > > problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, > > anyway. > > > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > > > Bill Radio > > > > > i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the > first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are > /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting higher mileage than is accurately on the car. |
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DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message > news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >> Bill Radio wrote: >>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive >>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is > the >>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar > 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, >>> anyway. >>> >>> Anyone else question their odometer? >>> >>> Bill Radio >>> >>> >> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the >> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are >> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. > > An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting > higher mileage than is accurately on the car. > > 1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy. 2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate. makes no sense. |
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DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message > news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >> Bill Radio wrote: >>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive >>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is > the >>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar > 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, >>> anyway. >>> >>> Anyone else question their odometer? >>> >>> Bill Radio >>> >>> >> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the >> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are >> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. > > An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting > higher mileage than is accurately on the car. > > 1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy. 2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate. makes no sense. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message > news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >> Bill Radio wrote: >>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive >>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is > the >>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar > 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, >>> anyway. >>> >>> Anyone else question their odometer? >>> >>> Bill Radio >>> >>> >> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the >> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are >> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. > > An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting > higher mileage than is accurately on the car. > > 1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy. 2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate. makes no sense. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
DodgeDriver wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message > news:MZOdnQrL2PrLXgjYnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t... >> Bill Radio wrote: >>> I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive >>> Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 Accord is > the >>> most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that has a similar > 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it all goes out the window, >>> anyway. >>> >>> Anyone else question their odometer? >>> >>> Bill Radio >>> >>> >> i can't understand why anyone would launch a lawsuit on this in the >> first place, let alone one that complains about where cars are >> /accurate/. i say this is an anti-import troll. > > An inaccurate reading odometer can affect your mileage warranty by reporting > higher mileage than is accurately on the car. > > 1. there are legal limits on inaccuracy. 2. this car is allegedly /too/ accurate. makes no sense. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
news:12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com: > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 > Accord is the most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that > has a similar 3-4% error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm > wondering how common a problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it > all goes out the window, anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > Well, enjoy the 5% warranty boost. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
news:12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com: > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 > Accord is the most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that > has a similar 3-4% error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm > wondering how common a problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it > all goes out the window, anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > Well, enjoy the 5% warranty boost. |
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"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote in
news:12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com: > I just received paperwork from the feds concerning a suit that will > acheive Class Action status on Accord odometers. Of all cars, our '05 > Accord is the most accurate! I do, however, have a different car that > has a similar 3-4% error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm > wondering how common a problem is this? If I switch tire sizes, it > all goes out the window, anyway. > > Anyone else question their odometer? > > Bill Radio > > Well, enjoy the 5% warranty boost. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: > I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? Apparently very common. Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, no matter what. Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: > I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? Apparently very common. Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, no matter what. Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>,
"Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: > I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% > error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a > problem is this? Apparently very common. Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, no matter what. Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, > "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: > >> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >> problem is this? > > Apparently very common. > > Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my > 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, > no matter what. > > Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell > it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove > years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 > behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. > it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where there is no legal accuracy requirement.] the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". [faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. |
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, > "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: > >> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >> problem is this? > > Apparently very common. > > Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my > 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, > no matter what. > > Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell > it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove > years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 > behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. > it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where there is no legal accuracy requirement.] the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". [faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, > "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: > >> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >> problem is this? > > Apparently very common. > > Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my > 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, > no matter what. > > Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell > it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove > years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 > behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. > it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where there is no legal accuracy requirement.] the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". [faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote: >Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, >> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: >> >>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? >> >> Apparently very common. >> >> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my >> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, >> no matter what. >> >> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell >> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove >> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 >> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. >> >it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. >almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. > [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where >there is no legal accuracy requirement.] > >the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". >[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] >cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference >to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the same error. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote: >Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, >> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: >> >>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? >> >> Apparently very common. >> >> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my >> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, >> no matter what. >> >> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell >> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove >> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 >> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. >> >it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. >almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. > [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where >there is no legal accuracy requirement.] > >the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". >[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] >cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference >to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the same error. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote: >Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, >> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: >> >>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>> problem is this? >> >> Apparently very common. >> >> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my >> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, >> no matter what. >> >> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell >> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove >> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 >> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. >> >it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. >almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. > [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where >there is no legal accuracy requirement.] > >the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". >[faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] >cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference >to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the same error. |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam > <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote: > >> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >>> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, >>> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>>> problem is this? >>> Apparently very common. >>> >>> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my >>> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, >>> no matter what. >>> >>> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell >>> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove >>> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 >>> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. >>> >> it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. >> almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. >> [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where >> there is no legal accuracy requirement.] >> >> the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". >> [faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] >> cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference >> to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. > > The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating > depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty > expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the > same error. odometer/speedometer inconsistency is true, but even if the odometer is off, what impact does it have? what's the difference between a 30k mile car and a 33k mile car in value? it will affect you if you lease a car, [which incidentally is a very high proportion of bmw "sales"] and you go over your lease mileage limits, but again, the manufacturer wins - no incentive for them to erode the 10% "slop" they're allowed. and how are you going to "prove" a problem? "sorry sir, you can't have had your tires inflated properly." |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam > <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote: > >> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >>> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, >>> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>>> problem is this? >>> Apparently very common. >>> >>> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my >>> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, >>> no matter what. >>> >>> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell >>> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove >>> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 >>> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. >>> >> it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. >> almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. >> [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where >> there is no legal accuracy requirement.] >> >> the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". >> [faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] >> cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference >> to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. > > The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating > depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty > expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the > same error. odometer/speedometer inconsistency is true, but even if the odometer is off, what impact does it have? what's the difference between a 30k mile car and a 33k mile car in value? it will affect you if you lease a car, [which incidentally is a very high proportion of bmw "sales"] and you go over your lease mileage limits, but again, the manufacturer wins - no incentive for them to erode the 10% "slop" they're allowed. and how are you going to "prove" a problem? "sorry sir, you can't have had your tires inflated properly." |
Re: Odometer Class Action Suit?
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:10 -0800, jim beam > <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote: > >> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >>> In article <12p6q33qlhcg0ac@corp.supernews.com>, >>> "Bill Radio" <Wireless@MountainWirelessNOSPAN.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I do, however, have a different car that has a similar 3-4% >>>> error on the speedometer & odometer. So, now I'm wondering how common a >>>> problem is this? >>> Apparently very common. >>> >>> Many years ago, when I first got a handheld GPS, I tested it against my >>> 92 Civic--and found that the Civic's speedometer was showing 5mph fast, >>> no matter what. >>> >>> Fast forward to today. I'm driving my mother's 94 Civic home to sell >>> it; interestingly enough, I'm driving in exactly the same place I drove >>> years ago when I tested my 92...and the GPS shows that my mother's 94 >>> behaves exactly the same way as my 92 did. >>> >> it's the way of the world. speedos are required to be within 10%. >> almost everyone opts for the "fast" solution, some more so than others. >> [bmw and ford really push the bleeding edge, especially over 70 where >> there is no legal accuracy requirement.] >> >> the reasoning is quite simple. customers want their car to be "fast". >> [faster 0-60, bmw drivers bowling along at what they think is 85...] >> cops want cars to be "slow". everybody's happy. it makes no difference >> to fuel economy. it stops you getting tickets. i see no problem. > > The issue is really the odometer which does cost money by accelerating > depreciation, maintenance intervals, trade-in intervals and warranty > expiration. The odometer and speedometer do not necessarily have the > same error. odometer/speedometer inconsistency is true, but even if the odometer is off, what impact does it have? what's the difference between a 30k mile car and a 33k mile car in value? it will affect you if you lease a car, [which incidentally is a very high proportion of bmw "sales"] and you go over your lease mileage limits, but again, the manufacturer wins - no incentive for them to erode the 10% "slop" they're allowed. and how are you going to "prove" a problem? "sorry sir, you can't have had your tires inflated properly." |
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