Odyssey trasmissions
#31
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
In article <yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no>,
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda bashing
> here is complete nonsense.
I've had more Hondas than you--and Honda earned every bit of this
bashing with respect to their 98-01 automatic transmissions. They took
many years of hard work and threw them down the drain, making them the
same joke as Chrysler is with respect to transmissions.
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda bashing
> here is complete nonsense.
I've had more Hondas than you--and Honda earned every bit of this
bashing with respect to their 98-01 automatic transmissions. They took
many years of hard work and threw them down the drain, making them the
same joke as Chrysler is with respect to transmissions.
#32
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
In article <yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no>,
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda bashing
> here is complete nonsense.
I've had more Hondas than you--and Honda earned every bit of this
bashing with respect to their 98-01 automatic transmissions. They took
many years of hard work and threw them down the drain, making them the
same joke as Chrysler is with respect to transmissions.
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda bashing
> here is complete nonsense.
I've had more Hondas than you--and Honda earned every bit of this
bashing with respect to their 98-01 automatic transmissions. They took
many years of hard work and threw them down the drain, making them the
same joke as Chrysler is with respect to transmissions.
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
In article <yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no>,
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda bashing
> here is complete nonsense.
I've had more Hondas than you--and Honda earned every bit of this
bashing with respect to their 98-01 automatic transmissions. They took
many years of hard work and threw them down the drain, making them the
same joke as Chrysler is with respect to transmissions.
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda bashing
> here is complete nonsense.
I've had more Hondas than you--and Honda earned every bit of this
bashing with respect to their 98-01 automatic transmissions. They took
many years of hard work and threw them down the drain, making them the
same joke as Chrysler is with respect to transmissions.
#34
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
#35
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
#36
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
#37
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic, and
> currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
bashing
> here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> research has been done many times over!
> -chris
Chris,
My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my garage
or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
that you alluded to above.
J. Perry
>
> "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
DAY
> 1.
> > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> becasuse i
> > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't get
> any
> > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
transmission
> > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
the
> > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
check
> > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems that
> there
> > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> Most of
> > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER buy
a
> > > honda product of any type.
> >
> >
> > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > one!!
> > Chip
>
>
#38
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Re: Odyssey trasmissions
Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
'em.
-chris
"J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
and
> > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> bashing
> > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both of
> > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing for
> > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > research has been done many times over!
> > -chris
>
> Chris,
>
> My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I was
> repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda owners'
> transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no Honda
> basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
garage
> or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value issue
> that you alluded to above.
>
> J. Perry
>
>
> >
> > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it since
> DAY
> > 1.
> > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > becasuse i
> > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
get
> > any
> > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> transmission
> > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem at
> the
> > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> check
> > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
that
> > there
> > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission problems!
> > Most of
> > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
buy
> a
> > > > honda product of any type.
> > >
> > >
> > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > one!!
> > > Chip
> >
> >
>
>
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
So, buy your logic... does that mean i must have neglected my honda too
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
So, buy your logic... does that mean i must have neglected my honda too
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
So, buy your logic... does that mean i must have neglected my honda too
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Odyssey trasmissions
So, buy your logic... does that mean i must have neglected my honda too
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
since i have a transmission probelem.... I first noticed this problem on the
second day of owning the car.... had less than 10km on it. How do you
suppose that i abused my car in 10km. It now has 1,200km and the
transmission hesitates and mis-shifts. The dealer i Purchased the car at
won't do anything about it becasue i don't have a check engine light on and
they get no error codes when they hook it up to a computer. Honda Canada
won't do anything about it... they told me in a letter that i should return
to the dealership i purchased the car from as they were the most qualified
to diagnose the problem.... So i tried going to another Honda dealer in the
city and they would not even look at the car. They asked where i purchased
it from, and said that because i had already reported this problem to my
original dealer... that they would not look at it... they said it was up to
the first dealer to fix it.
So, you wonder why people bad mouth honda.... how happy would you be if your
transmission was failing after 10km. ????????
"Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:ETjSb.325446$JQ1.54503@pd7tw1no...
> Well said J.P., what's with Elmo? He must've neglected his Honda vehicles.
> Saying that Honda's are reliable isn't to say you can beat the hell out of
> 'em.
> -chris
>
> "J. Perry" <j_perry@musicians.net> wrote in message
> news:6%iSb.1382$bW1.15020@eagle.america.net...
> > "Chris" <whosechris@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
> > news:yiGRb.300711$JQ1.271021@pd7tw1no...
> > > I have had 6 different Hondas in my life- starting with a 1976 Civic,
> and
> > > currently own a 2000 Odyssey & Civic. All I can say is all the Honda
> > bashing
> > > here is complete nonsense. I have had two domestics if my life-- both
of
> > > which have sent me running back into the arms of Honda, apologizing
for
> > > straying from the Honda's reliable reputation.
> > > Also, has anybody even BEGUN to consider the resale value issue? The
> > > research has been done many times over!
> > > -chris
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > My comments weren't even close to being of a "Honda bashing" nature. I
was
> > repeating what a rental car agent told me regarding several Honda
owners'
> > transmission woes that he had witnessed first hand. I'm certainly no
Honda
> > basher. In fact, I prefer Asian vehicles ten-to-one over domestics.
> > Currently I own a 2002 Lexus IS300 with 6,000 miles on it, a 1990 Nissan
> > 300ZX and a 1989 Honda Civic LX. There are no domestic vehicles in my
> garage
> > or driveway! And one of the main reasons is indeed the resale value
issue
> > that you alluded to above.
> >
> > J. Perry
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message
> > > news:5ddcea74.0401271757.1c91ff70@posting.google.c om...
> > > > "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<6JyRb.19224$P51.13081@clgrps12>...
> > > > > I have an 04 civic and have had transmission problems with it
since
> > DAY
> > > 1.
> > > > > To date, my dealer has not done anything with the problem simply
> > > becasuse i
> > > > > have no "check engine" light coming on, and there computers don't
> get
> > > any
> > > > > "error codes" when connected to my car. None the less, my
> > transmission
> > > > > hesitates and mis-shifts.... they have even duplicted the problem
at
> > the
> > > > > dealership, but won't do anything becase of the no error codes and
> > check
> > > > > engine light. I have done a lot or research since, and it seems
> that
> > > there
> > > > > are hundereds of people out there with honda transmission
problems!
> > > Most of
> > > > > them on next to new cars. My advice.... DO NOT EVER, EVER, EVER
> buy
> > a
> > > > > honda product of any type.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > the odessy, accord and pelude have an extended warranty covering
> > > > they tranny, depending on model year. the acura's have the same
> > > > problems. it's not as wide as people would have you believe.
> > > > the guy with the 04 civic just has a shitty dealer, find a new
> > > > one!!
> > > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>