Oil Changes every 8000km
Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in canada) With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already at 5000km's Thanks |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's > > Thanks Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. Where did the 5000km figure come from? |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's > > Thanks Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. Where did the 5000km figure come from? |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
These guys say 5000:
http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html And this guy... http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html and this guy... http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm and these guys... http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were honda's And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > > canada) > > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > > at 5000km's > > > > Thanks > > Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > > Where did the 5000km figure come from? > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
These guys say 5000:
http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html And this guy... http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html and this guy... http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm and these guys... http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were honda's And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > > canada) > > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > > at 5000km's > > > > Thanks > > Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > > Where did the 5000km figure come from? > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so
thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed cause he went over 5000km "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in >> canada) >> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >> already at 5000km's >> >> Thanks > > Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > > Where did the 5000km figure come from? > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so
thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed cause he went over 5000km "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in >> canada) >> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >> already at 5000km's >> >> Thanks > > Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > > Where did the 5000km figure come from? > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's I change my vehicle's oil and filtre every 5000 km. If it makes you feel more comfortable doing so, then by all means do it. It doesn't matter to me what other people say about the frequency of oil changes, because when you get right down to it, it's your vehicle and they're not going to be found if something happens to your vehicle following their advice. Brian |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's I change my vehicle's oil and filtre every 5000 km. If it makes you feel more comfortable doing so, then by all means do it. It doesn't matter to me what other people say about the frequency of oil changes, because when you get right down to it, it's your vehicle and they're not going to be found if something happens to your vehicle following their advice. Brian |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... > These guys say 5000: > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html Laverda Motorcycles? > And this guy... > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. > and this guy... > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm He sells oil changes! > and these guys... > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has stuck to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his engines. And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains all his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." "What the heck?" > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were honda's > > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't doing it's job. > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live > in >> > canada) >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to > do >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty > already >> > at 5000km's >> > >> > Thanks >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... > These guys say 5000: > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html Laverda Motorcycles? > And this guy... > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. > and this guy... > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm He sells oil changes! > and these guys... > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has stuck to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his engines. And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains all his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." "What the heck?" > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were honda's > > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't doing it's job. > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live > in >> > canada) >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to > do >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty > already >> > at 5000km's >> > >> > Thanks >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... > all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so > thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex > place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the > people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed > cause he went over 5000km Lubex? Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>> in canada) >>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>> already at 5000km's >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... > all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so > thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex > place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the > people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed > cause he went over 5000km Lubex? Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>> in canada) >>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>> already at 5000km's >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
And you really think the people on this forum know more than the Honda
engineers. DUH Follow your users manual. Tomes have changed from the old days when oil would turn to jelly in 3000 miles. Fuel is cleaner, engines are better, oil is better and the engineers know what the engine needs.... "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... > all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so > thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex > place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the > people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed > cause he went over 5000km > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>> in canada) >>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>> already at 5000km's >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
And you really think the people on this forum know more than the Honda
engineers. DUH Follow your users manual. Tomes have changed from the old days when oil would turn to jelly in 3000 miles. Fuel is cleaner, engines are better, oil is better and the engineers know what the engine needs.... "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... > all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so > thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex > place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the > people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed > cause he went over 5000km > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>> in canada) >>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>> already at 5000km's >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it is...
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com... > > "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... > > These guys say 5000: > > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html > > Laverda Motorcycles? > > > And this guy... > > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html > > Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. > > > and this guy... > > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm > > He sells oil changes! > > > and these guys... > > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ > From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has stuck > to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his engines. > And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains all > his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." > > "What the heck?" > > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were honda's > > > > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? > > Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't doing > it's job. > > > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > >> > >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live > > in > >> > canada) > >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to > > do > >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty > > already > >> > at 5000km's > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > >> > >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it is...
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com... > > "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... > > These guys say 5000: > > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html > > Laverda Motorcycles? > > > And this guy... > > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html > > Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. > > > and this guy... > > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm > > He sells oil changes! > > > and these guys... > > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ > From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has stuck > to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his engines. > And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains all > his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." > > "What the heck?" > > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were honda's > > > > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? > > Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't doing > it's job. > > > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > >> > >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live > > in > >> > canada) > >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to > > do > >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty > > already > >> > at 5000km's > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > >> > >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it > is... From oil analysis? Or from people selling you oil? > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com... >> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message >> news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... >> > These guys say 5000: >> > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html >> >> Laverda Motorcycles? >> >> > And this guy... >> > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html >> >> Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. >> >> > and this guy... >> > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm >> >> He sells oil changes! >> >> > and these guys... >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ >> From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has > stuck >> to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his > engines. >> And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains > all >> his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." >> >> "What the heck?" >> > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were > honda's >> > >> > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? >> >> Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't > doing >> it's job. >> >> >> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >> > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >> >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >> >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I > live >> > in >> >> > canada) >> >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe > to >> > do >> >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >> > already >> >> > at 5000km's >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it > is... From oil analysis? Or from people selling you oil? > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com... >> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message >> news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... >> > These guys say 5000: >> > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html >> >> Laverda Motorcycles? >> >> > And this guy... >> > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html >> >> Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. >> >> > and this guy... >> > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm >> >> He sells oil changes! >> >> > and these guys... >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ >> From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has > stuck >> to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his > engines. >> And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains > all >> his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." >> >> "What the heck?" >> > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were > honda's >> > >> > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? >> >> Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't > doing >> it's job. >> >> >> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >> > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >> >> >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >> >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >> >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I > live >> > in >> >> > canada) >> >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe > to >> > do >> >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >> > already >> >> > at 5000km's >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >> >> >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote:
> Where did the 5000km figure come from? Heck, even my '94 Honda's Owner Manual says so: 5,000 km or 3,750 miles. Must be all right 'cause I'm aproaching 195,000 miles with it and it still runs like new (well, almost ;-) R. P. |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote:
> Where did the 5000km figure come from? Heck, even my '94 Honda's Owner Manual says so: 5,000 km or 3,750 miles. Must be all right 'cause I'm aproaching 195,000 miles with it and it still runs like new (well, almost ;-) R. P. |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
Honda's new recommendation of 8000km is not out of line, due to
improvements in engine technology, cleaner gas and better oils. My 01 Prelude's manual recommends oil changes every 6000km. But that's probably because all H22 engines burn oil when in VTEC, so if I would go by that interval without toping it once in a while, I would be at least 1-2l short in 6000km. A friend's 01 BMW 330ci only needs oil changes every 20000km (no, that's not a typo, it's twenty thousand) as long as he uses BMW's own oil. He could not believe it at first, but the dealer did not want to change it any sooner, even though the car is still under warranty. Cosmin R. P. wrote: > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? > > > Heck, even my '94 Honda's Owner Manual says so: 5,000 km or 3,750 miles. > Must be all right 'cause I'm aproaching 195,000 miles with it and it > still runs like new (well, almost ;-) > > R. P. |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
Honda's new recommendation of 8000km is not out of line, due to
improvements in engine technology, cleaner gas and better oils. My 01 Prelude's manual recommends oil changes every 6000km. But that's probably because all H22 engines burn oil when in VTEC, so if I would go by that interval without toping it once in a while, I would be at least 1-2l short in 6000km. A friend's 01 BMW 330ci only needs oil changes every 20000km (no, that's not a typo, it's twenty thousand) as long as he uses BMW's own oil. He could not believe it at first, but the dealer did not want to change it any sooner, even though the car is still under warranty. Cosmin R. P. wrote: > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote: > >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? > > > Heck, even my '94 Honda's Owner Manual says so: 5,000 km or 3,750 miles. > Must be all right 'cause I'm aproaching 195,000 miles with it and it > still runs like new (well, almost ;-) > > R. P. |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
Be sure to read the manual. Do your driving conditions meet all the criteria
for the 8K service? That probably precludes any short trips, very cold or hot weather, dusty conditions, or whatever constitutes 'Severe Service.' Many newer cars have had oil gelling problems from extended service intervals. "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's > > Thanks > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
Be sure to read the manual. Do your driving conditions meet all the criteria
for the 8K service? That probably precludes any short trips, very cold or hot weather, dusty conditions, or whatever constitutes 'Severe Service.' Many newer cars have had oil gelling problems from extended service intervals. "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's > > Thanks > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$) repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is where they make all their money. "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com... > > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... >> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so >> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex >> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the >> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed >> cause he went over 5000km > > Lubex? > Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? > > Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? > >> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >>> >>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>>> in canada) >>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>>> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>>> already at 5000km's >>>> >>>> Thanks >>> >>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >>> >>> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$) repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is where they make all their money. "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com... > > "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... >> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so >> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex >> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the >> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed >> cause he went over 5000km > > Lubex? > Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? > > Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? > >> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >>> >>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>>> in canada) >>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>>> do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>>> already at 5000km's >>>> >>>> Thanks >>> >>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >>> >>> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
So by that rationale, had Honda had incremented the oil change interval
by 100km every 6 months (or some other random number), it would have made sense to you. Don't get me wrong, I'm still changing the oil every 6000km in my 01 Prelude, but not because the oil would break down (I'm using synthetic, so it should last at least 10000km), but because all H22 engines burn oil in VTEC. Maybe with the 01-05 Civic Honda decided that engine quality, gas and oil have ALL improved enough to extend the interval to 8000km. It's the same with the timing belts. My 94 Accord had an interval of 96000km or 7 years. New Hondas have longer intervals, even though on the surface nothing changed. Cosmin Jamco wrote: > I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the > engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could > only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$) > repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is where > they make all their money. > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com... > >>"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... >> >>>all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so >>>thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex >>>place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the >>>people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed >>>cause he went over 5000km >> >>Lubex? >>Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? >> >>Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? >> >> >>>"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >>>news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >>> >>>>"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>>>news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>>> >>>>>Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>>>>With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>>>>in canada) >>>>>With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>>>>do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>>>>already at 5000km's >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >>>> >>>>Where did the 5000km figure come from? >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
So by that rationale, had Honda had incremented the oil change interval
by 100km every 6 months (or some other random number), it would have made sense to you. Don't get me wrong, I'm still changing the oil every 6000km in my 01 Prelude, but not because the oil would break down (I'm using synthetic, so it should last at least 10000km), but because all H22 engines burn oil in VTEC. Maybe with the 01-05 Civic Honda decided that engine quality, gas and oil have ALL improved enough to extend the interval to 8000km. It's the same with the timing belts. My 94 Accord had an interval of 96000km or 7 years. New Hondas have longer intervals, even though on the surface nothing changed. Cosmin Jamco wrote: > I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the > engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could > only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$) > repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is where > they make all their money. > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com... > >>"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... >> >>>all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so >>>thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex >>>place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the >>>people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine flushed >>>cause he went over 5000km >> >>Lubex? >>Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? >> >>Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? >> >> >>>"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >>>news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >>> >>>>"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>>>news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>>> >>>>>Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>>>>With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>>>>in canada) >>>>>With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to >>>>>do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty >>>>>already at 5000km's >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >>>> >>>>Where did the 5000km figure come from? >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com... > > "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... > > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it > > is... > > From oil analysis? > > Or from people selling you oil? > > > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com... > >> > >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > >> news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... > >> > These guys say 5000: > >> > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html > >> > >> Laverda Motorcycles? > >> > >> > And this guy... > >> > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html > >> > >> Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. > >> > >> > and this guy... > >> > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm > >> > >> He sells oil changes! > >> > >> > and these guys... > >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ > >> From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has > > stuck > >> to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his > > engines. > >> And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains > > all > >> his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." > >> > >> "What the heck?" > >> > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were > > honda's > >> > > >> > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? > >> > >> Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't > > doing > >> it's job. > >> > >> > >> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > >> > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > >> >> > >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > >> >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > >> >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I > > live > >> > in > >> >> > canada) > >> >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe > > to > >> > do > >> >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty > >> > already > >> >> > at 5000km's > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > >> >> > >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com... > > "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... > > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it > > is... > > From oil analysis? > > Or from people selling you oil? > > > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com... > >> > >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > >> news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84... > >> > These guys say 5000: > >> > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html > >> > >> Laverda Motorcycles? > >> > >> > And this guy... > >> > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html > >> > >> Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said. > >> > >> > and this guy... > >> > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm > >> > >> He sells oil changes! > >> > >> > and these guys... > >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/ > >> From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has > > stuck > >> to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his > > engines. > >> And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains > > all > >> his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck." > >> > >> "What the heck?" > >> > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were > > honda's > >> > > >> > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me? > >> > >> Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't > > doing > >> it's job. > >> > >> > >> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > >> > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... > >> >> > >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > >> >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > >> >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I > > live > >> > in > >> >> > canada) > >> >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe > > to > >> > do > >> >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty > >> > already > >> >> > at 5000km's > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks > >> >> > >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. > >> >> > >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from? > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89... > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch Ahh. So it's based on just a guess? Gotcha. > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com... >> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it >> > is... >> >> From oil analysis? >> >> Or from people selling you oil? |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89... > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch Ahh. So it's based on just a guess? Gotcha. > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com... >> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it >> > is... >> >> From oil analysis? >> >> Or from people selling you oil? |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
No it's based on looking at the oil, if it's dirty it should be changed, my
opinion not yours. If I'm wrong, so be it, I;m erroring on the side of caution. "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:dfedneQ9ybkZHnncRVn-ow@rogers.com... > > "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89... > > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more > > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch > > Ahh. So it's based on just a guess? > > Gotcha. > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com... > >> > >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... > >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it > >> > is... > >> > >> From oil analysis? > >> > >> Or from people selling you oil? > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
No it's based on looking at the oil, if it's dirty it should be changed, my
opinion not yours. If I'm wrong, so be it, I;m erroring on the side of caution. "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message news:dfedneQ9ybkZHnncRVn-ow@rogers.com... > > "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89... > > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more > > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch > > Ahh. So it's based on just a guess? > > Gotcha. > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com... > >> > >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message > >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84... > >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it > >> > is... > >> > >> From oil analysis? > >> > >> Or from people selling you oil? > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
why 8000 km ? why not 20 k km, I have been changing at 20 K km on all
Hondas, mostly Accords for some 25 years now and worked great, currently have 91 Accord with 250 K km and the engine is perfect, using synthetic of course as I live in north alberta "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's > > Thanks > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
why 8000 km ? why not 20 k km, I have been changing at 20 K km on all
Hondas, mostly Accords for some 25 years now and worked great, currently have 91 Accord with 250 K km and the engine is perfect, using synthetic of course as I live in north alberta "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... > Hi I have a new Honda Civic. > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in > canada) > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already > at 5000km's > > Thanks > > |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
Jamco wrote:
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. On my EP3 Civic EUDM Manual the oil change it's every 20000Km and 10000Km in severe use conditions. -- bye, William 'MaD' Munny (30,200,PV) Dizionario FHT->To->ITA http://www.fhteam.org/fht/ |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
Jamco wrote:
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. On my EP3 Civic EUDM Manual the oil change it's every 20000Km and 10000Km in severe use conditions. -- bye, William 'MaD' Munny (30,200,PV) Dizionario FHT->To->ITA http://www.fhteam.org/fht/ |
Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
in 2001 they switched engines, so yes, its quite possible, if your nervous
about it, change it, stop arguing. Personally id believe a honda engineer over a grease monkey who sells oil changes "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message news:X_REd.81779$dv1.8361@edtnps89... > I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the > engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could > only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$) > repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is > where they make all their money. > > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message > news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com... >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >> news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89... >>> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so >>> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex >>> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the >>> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine >>> flushed cause he went over 5000km >> >> Lubex? >> Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right? >> >> Why are you trying to out engineer Honda? >> >>> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message >>> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com... >>>> >>>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message >>>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89... >>>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic. >>>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live >>>>> in canada) >>>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe >>>>> to do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty >>>>> dirty already at 5000km's >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing. >>>> >>>> Where did the 5000km figure come from? >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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