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jasonp 01-11-2005 11:25 AM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
>
> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it
> > is...

>
> From oil analysis?
>
> Or from people selling you oil?
>
>
> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84...
> >> > These guys say 5000:
> >> > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html
> >>
> >> Laverda Motorcycles?
> >>
> >> > And this guy...
> >> > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html
> >>
> >> Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said.
> >>
> >> > and this guy...
> >> > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm
> >>
> >> He sells oil changes!
> >>
> >> > and these guys...
> >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/
> >> From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has

> > stuck
> >> to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his

> > engines.
> >> And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains

> > all
> >> his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck."
> >>
> >> "What the heck?"
> >> > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were

> > honda's
> >> >
> >> > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me?
> >>
> >> Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't

> > doing
> >> it's job.
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
> >> >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
> >> >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I

> > live
> >> > in
> >> >> > canada)
> >> >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this

safe
> > to
> >> > do
> >> >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty
> >> > already
> >> >> > at 5000km's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




Steve Bigelow 01-11-2005 08:55 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 

"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89...
> From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch


Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?

Gotcha.
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
>>
>> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
>> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
>> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it
>> > is...

>>
>> From oil analysis?
>>
>> Or from people selling you oil?




Steve Bigelow 01-11-2005 08:55 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 

"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89...
> From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch


Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?

Gotcha.
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
>>
>> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
>> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
>> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it
>> > is...

>>
>> From oil analysis?
>>
>> Or from people selling you oil?




Jasonp 01-12-2005 11:47 AM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
No it's based on looking at the oil, if it's dirty it should be changed, my
opinion not yours. If I'm wrong, so be it, I;m erroring on the side of
caution.


"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:dfedneQ9ybkZHnncRVn-ow@rogers.com...
>
> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89...
> > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch

>
> Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?
>
> Gotcha.
> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
> >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty

it
> >> > is...
> >>
> >> From oil analysis?
> >>
> >> Or from people selling you oil?

>
>




Jasonp 01-12-2005 11:47 AM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
No it's based on looking at the oil, if it's dirty it should be changed, my
opinion not yours. If I'm wrong, so be it, I;m erroring on the side of
caution.


"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:dfedneQ9ybkZHnncRVn-ow@rogers.com...
>
> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89...
> > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch

>
> Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?
>
> Gotcha.
> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
> >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty

it
> >> > is...
> >>
> >> From oil analysis?
> >>
> >> Or from people selling you oil?

>
>




Andrew Ostrowski 01-12-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
why 8000 km ? why not 20 k km, I have been changing at 20 K km on all
Hondas, mostly Accords for some 25 years now and worked great, currently
have 91 Accord with 250 K km and the engine is perfect, using synthetic of
course as I live in north alberta


"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in
> canada)
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do
> or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already
> at 5000km's
>
> Thanks
>
>




Andrew Ostrowski 01-12-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
why 8000 km ? why not 20 k km, I have been changing at 20 K km on all
Hondas, mostly Accords for some 25 years now and worked great, currently
have 91 Accord with 250 K km and the engine is perfect, using synthetic of
course as I live in north alberta


"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in
> canada)
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do
> or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already
> at 5000km's
>
> Thanks
>
>




Akira Norimaki 01-15-2005 06:11 AM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
Jamco wrote:
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's.


On my EP3 Civic EUDM Manual the oil change it's every 20000Km and 10000Km in
severe use conditions.

--
bye, William 'MaD' Munny (30,200,PV)
Dizionario FHT->To->ITA
http://www.fhteam.org/fht/



Akira Norimaki 01-15-2005 06:11 AM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
Jamco wrote:
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's.


On my EP3 Civic EUDM Manual the oil change it's every 20000Km and 10000Km in
severe use conditions.

--
bye, William 'MaD' Munny (30,200,PV)
Dizionario FHT->To->ITA
http://www.fhteam.org/fht/



M.C. Tee 01-15-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
in 2001 they switched engines, so yes, its quite possible, if your nervous
about it, change it, stop arguing. Personally id believe a honda engineer
over a grease monkey who sells oil changes



"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:X_REd.81779$dv1.8361@edtnps89...
> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.
>
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com...
>>
>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>> news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89...
>>> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so
>>> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex
>>> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the
>>> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine
>>> flushed cause he went over 5000km

>>
>> Lubex?
>> Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right?
>>
>> Why are you trying to out engineer Honda?
>>
>>> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
>>>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
>>>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live
>>>>> in canada)
>>>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe
>>>>> to do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty
>>>>> dirty already at 5000km's
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing.
>>>>
>>>> Where did the 5000km figure come from?
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




M.C. Tee 01-15-2005 10:39 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
in 2001 they switched engines, so yes, its quite possible, if your nervous
about it, change it, stop arguing. Personally id believe a honda engineer
over a grease monkey who sells oil changes



"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:X_REd.81779$dv1.8361@edtnps89...
> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.
>
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com...
>>
>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>> news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89...
>>> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so
>>> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex
>>> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the
>>> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine
>>> flushed cause he went over 5000km

>>
>> Lubex?
>> Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right?
>>
>> Why are you trying to out engineer Honda?
>>
>>> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
>>>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
>>>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live
>>>>> in canada)
>>>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe
>>>>> to do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty
>>>>> dirty already at 5000km's
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing.
>>>>
>>>> Where did the 5000km figure come from?
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>




Seth 01-20-2005 09:07 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:X_REd.81779$dv1.8361@edtnps89...
> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.


Well, my 2001 Accord (V6) gets an oil change only at 7000 or 8000 miles
(that works out to 11,200km to 12,800km if I did the math right), and after
115,000 it still runs beautifully.

That 5000km number you are reading, is that normal driving or severe
schedule?


Seth 01-20-2005 09:07 PM

Re: Oil Changes every 8000km
 
"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:X_REd.81779$dv1.8361@edtnps89...
> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.


Well, my 2001 Accord (V6) gets an oil change only at 7000 or 8000 miles
(that works out to 11,200km to 12,800km if I did the math right), and after
115,000 it still runs beautifully.

That 5000km number you are reading, is that normal driving or severe
schedule?



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