jasonp

From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch
"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it
> > is...
>
> From oil analysis?
>
> Or from people selling you oil?
>
>
> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:I8ednY5mJcKHiX7cRVn-hg@rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hZDEd.62384$nN6.2099@edtnps84...
> >> > These guys say 5000:
> >> > http://668tech.laverda-nz.org/mainte...eck_sheet.html
> >>
> >> Laverda Motorcycles?
> >>
> >> > And this guy...
> >> > http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/arc...hp/t-4607.html
> >>
> >> Aussies driving French cars. What more needs to be said.
> >>
> >> > and this guy...
> >> > http://www.harrysautopro.ca/oil.htm
> >>
> >> He sells oil changes!
> >>
> >> > and these guys...
> >> > http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000327024141/
> >> From the first paragraph- "Maybe I'm old fashioned, but my father has
> > stuck
> >> to the "3000 mile" rule and has never had a problem with any of his
> > engines.
> >> And I know that it is faulty cause-and-effect logic - he over-maintains
> > all
> >> his vehicles - but if it has caused no problems, then what the heck."
> >>
> >> "What the heck?"
> >> > granted these aren't honda's, but he never said his last cars were
> > honda's
> >> >
> >> > And oil that looks dirty doesn't matter? Can you explain that to me?
> >>
> >> Yep. Just because it looks dirty, doesn't mean it is, or that it isn't
> > doing
> >> it's job.
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
> >> >> > Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
> >> >> > With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I
> > live
> >> > in
> >> >> > canada)
> >> >> > With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this
safe
> > to
> >> > do
> >> >> > or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty
> >> > already
> >> >> > at 5000km's
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Where did the 5000km figure come from?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Steve Bigelow

"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
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> From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch

Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?

Gotcha.
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
>>
>> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
>> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
>> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it
>> > is...
>>
>> From oil analysis?
>>
>> Or from people selling you oil?

Steve Bigelow

"jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
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> From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch

Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?

Gotcha.
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
>>
>> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
>> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
>> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty it
>> > is...
>>
>> From oil analysis?
>>
>> Or from people selling you oil?

Jasonp

No it's based on looking at the oil, if it's dirty it should be changed, my
opinion not yours. If I'm wrong, so be it, I;m erroring on the side of
caution.


"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89...
> > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch
>
> Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?
>
> Gotcha.
> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
> >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty
it
> >> > is...
> >>
> >> From oil analysis?
> >>
> >> Or from people selling you oil?
>
>

Jasonp

No it's based on looking at the oil, if it's dirty it should be changed, my
opinion not yours. If I'm wrong, so be it, I;m erroring on the side of
caution.


"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> news:C5TEd.82157$dv1.55954@edtnps89...
> > From wrenchers I've worked with. I do my own service, I just feel more
> > comfortable when the oil looks like oil, not pitch
>
> Ahh. So it's based on just a guess?
>
> Gotcha.
> > "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:A9GdnbQcFMXIvH7cRVn-iw@rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "jasonp" <hick@up.com> wrote in message
> >> news:HEEEd.62419$nN6.61573@edtnps84...
> >> > everything I've ever been told has said that if the oil looks dirty
it
> >> > is...
> >>
> >> From oil analysis?
> >>
> >> Or from people selling you oil?
>
>

Andrew Ostrowski

why 8000 km ? why not 20 k km, I have been changing at 20 K km on all
Hondas, mostly Accords for some 25 years now and worked great, currently
have 91 Accord with 250 K km and the engine is perfect, using synthetic of
course as I live in north alberta


"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
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> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in
> canada)
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do
> or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already
> at 5000km's
>
> Thanks
>
>

Andrew Ostrowski

why 8000 km ? why not 20 k km, I have been changing at 20 K km on all
Hondas, mostly Accords for some 25 years now and worked great, currently
have 91 Accord with 250 K km and the engine is perfect, using synthetic of
course as I live in north alberta


"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
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> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live in
> canada)
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe to do
> or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty dirty already
> at 5000km's
>
> Thanks
>
>

Akira Norimaki

Jamco wrote:
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's.

On my EP3 Civic EUDM Manual the oil change it's every 20000Km and 10000Km in
severe use conditions.

--
bye, William 'MaD' Munny (30,200,PV)
Dizionario FHT->To->ITA
http://www.fhteam.org/fht/

Akira Norimaki

Jamco wrote:
> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's.

On my EP3 Civic EUDM Manual the oil change it's every 20000Km and 10000Km in
severe use conditions.

--
bye, William 'MaD' Munny (30,200,PV)
Dizionario FHT->To->ITA
http://www.fhteam.org/fht/

M.C. Tee

in 2001 they switched engines, so yes, its quite possible, if your nervous
about it, change it, stop arguing. Personally id believe a honda engineer
over a grease monkey who sells oil changes



"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.
>
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>> news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89...
>>> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so
>>> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex
>>> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the
>>> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine
>>> flushed cause he went over 5000km
>>
>> Lubex?
>> Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right?
>>
>> Why are you trying to out engineer Honda?
>>
>>> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
>>>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
>>>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live
>>>>> in canada)
>>>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe
>>>>> to do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty
>>>>> dirty already at 5000km's
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing.
>>>>
>>>> Where did the 5000km figure come from?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

M.C. Tee

in 2001 they switched engines, so yes, its quite possible, if your nervous
about it, change it, stop arguing. Personally id believe a honda engineer
over a grease monkey who sells oil changes



"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.
>
> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:FuSdnez8BMFwiX7cRVn-1w@rogers.com...
>>
>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>> news:tdEEd.78960$dv1.38232@edtnps89...
>>> all the previous cars I've owned said to change the oil every 5000km so
>>> thats where I came up with that. And when my brother went into a lubex
>>> place to get his oil changed at 8000km like the manual says to do, the
>>> people said his oil was really dirty and he should get his engine
>>> flushed cause he went over 5000km
>>
>> Lubex?
>> Let me guess...they sell oil changes and flushes, right?
>>
>> Why are you trying to out engineer Honda?
>>
>>> "Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
>>> news:BaudnZlL8ezemn7cRVn-qQ@rogers.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:CeDEd.78740$dv1.77489@edtnps89...
>>>>> Hi I have a new Honda Civic.
>>>>> With all my pasts cars I always changed the oil every 5000km's (I live
>>>>> in canada)
>>>>> With my new civic it says to change it every 8000km's. Is this safe
>>>>> to do or should i stick with every 5000km's? The oil looks pretty
>>>>> dirty already at 5000km's
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Looking dirty doesn't mean a thing.
>>>>
>>>> Where did the 5000km figure come from?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Seth

"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.

Well, my 2001 Accord (V6) gets an oil change only at 7000 or 8000 miles
(that works out to 11,200km to 12,800km if I did the math right), and after
115,000 it still runs beautifully.

That 5000km number you are reading, is that normal driving or severe
schedule?

Seth

"Jamco" <Homer@jamco.com> wrote in message
news:X_REd.81779$dv1.8361@edtnps89...
> I'm not trying to out enginer honda, but come on, magically in 2001+ the
> engines can now go 8000km between oil changes, where as in 2000 they could
> only go 5000km. Think about it, less oil changes means more major($$$)
> repairs, which means more business for the honda repair shop, which is
> where they make all their money.

Well, my 2001 Accord (V6) gets an oil change only at 7000 or 8000 miles
(that works out to 11,200km to 12,800km if I did the math right), and after
115,000 it still runs beautifully.

That 5000km number you are reading, is that normal driving or severe
schedule?