OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
08-17-2007, 09:36 PM
#1
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OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
real alarm, but I want something.
Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
There's two ways to set the thing up:
Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
turn off when using the car.
Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
Any ideas?
On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
real alarm, but I want something.
Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
There's two ways to set the thing up:
Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
turn off when using the car.
Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
Any ideas?
08-17-2007, 09:44 PM
#2
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
08-17-2007, 09:44 PM
#3
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
08-17-2007, 09:44 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
08-17-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Go to K-Mart or Wal-Mart and get a cheapo alarm.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
08-17-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Go to K-Mart or Wal-Mart and get a cheapo alarm.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
08-17-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:P2sxi.1330$563.924@trndny08...
> And come up with a Cheap-*** alarm.
>
> On the Mazda, I don't want to go to the trouble or expense of installing a
> real alarm, but I want something.
>
> Honking the horn and flashing the flashers would be good enough. I want
> the horn to 'beep', so a flasher unit and a relay or two would be good.
>
> There's two ways to set the thing up:
>
> Put something like a key switch under the fender, turn on when leaving,
> turn off when using the car.
>
> Or, a little more sophisticaed: put a switch inside the car. Now, this
> would mean triggering the 'alarm' when getting into the car, something I
> don't want to do at 1 AM when I'm leaving on my 'paper route'. So, some
> kind of delay would be good. I was thinking a capacitor between the hot
> line and the 1st relay, so the cap charges and when it reaches charged it
> triggers the relay and starts the flasher.
>
> But, I need a hint what size cap to use, and how to wire it into the relay
> so that it charges before setting off the horn, maybe 20 seconds is good.
>
> Of course, we could get REAL sophisticated and use the ol' venerable 555
> timer, but that's more involved than I want to make it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Go to K-Mart or Wal-Mart and get a cheapo alarm.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
08-17-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:51:56 -0700, witfal wrote:
> On 2007-08-17 18:44:25 -0700, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> said:
>
>> a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
>
> OR...the system portrayed in the opening scenes of Robocop II.
Believe it or not, this was EXACTLY what I was watching back in 1991 on
HBO when my Hachiroku got stolen the first time...
> On 2007-08-17 18:44:25 -0700, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> said:
>
>> a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
>
> OR...the system portrayed in the opening scenes of Robocop II.
Believe it or not, this was EXACTLY what I was watching back in 1991 on
HBO when my Hachiroku got stolen the first time...
08-17-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:51:56 -0700, witfal wrote:
> On 2007-08-17 18:44:25 -0700, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> said:
>
>> a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
>
> OR...the system portrayed in the opening scenes of Robocop II.
Believe it or not, this was EXACTLY what I was watching back in 1991 on
HBO when my Hachiroku got stolen the first time...
> On 2007-08-17 18:44:25 -0700, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> said:
>
>> a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
>
> OR...the system portrayed in the opening scenes of Robocop II.
Believe it or not, this was EXACTLY what I was watching back in 1991 on
HBO when my Hachiroku got stolen the first time...
08-17-2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:51:56 -0700, witfal wrote:
> On 2007-08-17 18:44:25 -0700, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> said:
>
>> a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
>
> OR...the system portrayed in the opening scenes of Robocop II.
Believe it or not, this was EXACTLY what I was watching back in 1991 on
HBO when my Hachiroku got stolen the first time...
> On 2007-08-17 18:44:25 -0700, "GoMavs" <Mav@ericks.com> said:
>
>> a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
>
> OR...the system portrayed in the opening scenes of Robocop II.
Believe it or not, this was EXACTLY what I was watching back in 1991 on
HBO when my Hachiroku got stolen the first time...
08-17-2007, 10:20 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
In article <Z9sxi.58$A57.2@trnddc04>, GoMavs <Mav@ericks.com> wrote:
>a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
I agree. Car alarms are basically ineffective, because they false constantly
and so they get ignored. Even if _your_ alarm is perfect, if it goes off in
the supermarket parking lot nobody will even bother to look at the car, because
they are all so used to false alarms all the time.
BUT, a thirty-foot anaconda will definitely be a theft-stopping wonder, if not
deterring any theft attempts in the first place. Everybody should have them.
You could sell them with the slogan "Get your Honda An Anaconda." If you use
that slogan, though, I want royalties.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
I agree. Car alarms are basically ineffective, because they false constantly
and so they get ignored. Even if _your_ alarm is perfect, if it goes off in
the supermarket parking lot nobody will even bother to look at the car, because
they are all so used to false alarms all the time.
BUT, a thirty-foot anaconda will definitely be a theft-stopping wonder, if not
deterring any theft attempts in the first place. Everybody should have them.
You could sell them with the slogan "Get your Honda An Anaconda." If you use
that slogan, though, I want royalties.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
08-17-2007, 10:20 PM
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Re: OK, ladies and gentlemen, put on your Thinking Caps...
In article <Z9sxi.58$A57.2@trnddc04>, GoMavs <Mav@ericks.com> wrote:
>a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
I agree. Car alarms are basically ineffective, because they false constantly
and so they get ignored. Even if _your_ alarm is perfect, if it goes off in
the supermarket parking lot nobody will even bother to look at the car, because
they are all so used to false alarms all the time.
BUT, a thirty-foot anaconda will definitely be a theft-stopping wonder, if not
deterring any theft attempts in the first place. Everybody should have them.
You could sell them with the slogan "Get your Honda An Anaconda." If you use
that slogan, though, I want royalties.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>a viper.. not the car alarm, but a real life viper...
I agree. Car alarms are basically ineffective, because they false constantly
and so they get ignored. Even if _your_ alarm is perfect, if it goes off in
the supermarket parking lot nobody will even bother to look at the car, because
they are all so used to false alarms all the time.
BUT, a thirty-foot anaconda will definitely be a theft-stopping wonder, if not
deterring any theft attempts in the first place. Everybody should have them.
You could sell them with the slogan "Get your Honda An Anaconda." If you use
that slogan, though, I want royalties.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."