Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
#46
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
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> grappletech <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in news:1158212770_23479
> @sp6iad.superfeed.net:
>
>> Thanks for doing your part to help the environment.
>
> Am I the only one to notice how CLEAN and BLUE the sky was in the week
> after 9/11 when they grounded them all?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Common logical error.
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news:Xns983E6B40AD3B3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
> grappletech <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in news:1158212770_23479
> @sp6iad.superfeed.net:
>
>> Thanks for doing your part to help the environment.
>
> Am I the only one to notice how CLEAN and BLUE the sky was in the week
> after 9/11 when they grounded them all?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Common logical error.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#47
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:1158236983.266810.81240
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> If the vehicle is 1987 and older it will be exempt since its last
> required testing was 2 yrs ago.
No, its last required testing is this year. The OP will discover this
when he goes to get his annual sticker.
In Ontario, you get your sticker renewal notice about 90 days in
advance, giving you lots of time to get something done about it.
> If the vehicle is 1988 and newer it
> will have to be tested until it reaches the federally reconized age to
> classify as "antique" which is 30 years old.
Wrong. There is no such DriveClean definition as "antique". Read the
DriveClean website's description. The ONLY allowance for emissions
exemption for a post-'87 car is "historic vehicle". And with the advent
of Premier McSquinty, THEY tell YOU what constitutes a "historic
vehicle. Simply achieving 30 years old does *NOT* make a car ipso facto
exempt from smog checks.
Now if we throw McSquinty's Commies out in the next election, maybe we
can coax the the next bunch of wanna-be despots into reinstating the 20-
year rolling exemption... Hey guys, remember this at the polls.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> If the vehicle is 1987 and older it will be exempt since its last
> required testing was 2 yrs ago.
No, its last required testing is this year. The OP will discover this
when he goes to get his annual sticker.
In Ontario, you get your sticker renewal notice about 90 days in
advance, giving you lots of time to get something done about it.
> If the vehicle is 1988 and newer it
> will have to be tested until it reaches the federally reconized age to
> classify as "antique" which is 30 years old.
Wrong. There is no such DriveClean definition as "antique". Read the
DriveClean website's description. The ONLY allowance for emissions
exemption for a post-'87 car is "historic vehicle". And with the advent
of Premier McSquinty, THEY tell YOU what constitutes a "historic
vehicle. Simply achieving 30 years old does *NOT* make a car ipso facto
exempt from smog checks.
Now if we throw McSquinty's Commies out in the next election, maybe we
can coax the the next bunch of wanna-be despots into reinstating the 20-
year rolling exemption... Hey guys, remember this at the polls.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#48
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:1158236983.266810.81240
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> If the vehicle is 1987 and older it will be exempt since its last
> required testing was 2 yrs ago.
No, its last required testing is this year. The OP will discover this
when he goes to get his annual sticker.
In Ontario, you get your sticker renewal notice about 90 days in
advance, giving you lots of time to get something done about it.
> If the vehicle is 1988 and newer it
> will have to be tested until it reaches the federally reconized age to
> classify as "antique" which is 30 years old.
Wrong. There is no such DriveClean definition as "antique". Read the
DriveClean website's description. The ONLY allowance for emissions
exemption for a post-'87 car is "historic vehicle". And with the advent
of Premier McSquinty, THEY tell YOU what constitutes a "historic
vehicle. Simply achieving 30 years old does *NOT* make a car ipso facto
exempt from smog checks.
Now if we throw McSquinty's Commies out in the next election, maybe we
can coax the the next bunch of wanna-be despots into reinstating the 20-
year rolling exemption... Hey guys, remember this at the polls.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> If the vehicle is 1987 and older it will be exempt since its last
> required testing was 2 yrs ago.
No, its last required testing is this year. The OP will discover this
when he goes to get his annual sticker.
In Ontario, you get your sticker renewal notice about 90 days in
advance, giving you lots of time to get something done about it.
> If the vehicle is 1988 and newer it
> will have to be tested until it reaches the federally reconized age to
> classify as "antique" which is 30 years old.
Wrong. There is no such DriveClean definition as "antique". Read the
DriveClean website's description. The ONLY allowance for emissions
exemption for a post-'87 car is "historic vehicle". And with the advent
of Premier McSquinty, THEY tell YOU what constitutes a "historic
vehicle. Simply achieving 30 years old does *NOT* make a car ipso facto
exempt from smog checks.
Now if we throw McSquinty's Commies out in the next election, maybe we
can coax the the next bunch of wanna-be despots into reinstating the 20-
year rolling exemption... Hey guys, remember this at the polls.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#49
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"Snow" <snowbal@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:1158236983.266810.81240
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> If the vehicle is 1987 and older it will be exempt since its last
> required testing was 2 yrs ago.
No, its last required testing is this year. The OP will discover this
when he goes to get his annual sticker.
In Ontario, you get your sticker renewal notice about 90 days in
advance, giving you lots of time to get something done about it.
> If the vehicle is 1988 and newer it
> will have to be tested until it reaches the federally reconized age to
> classify as "antique" which is 30 years old.
Wrong. There is no such DriveClean definition as "antique". Read the
DriveClean website's description. The ONLY allowance for emissions
exemption for a post-'87 car is "historic vehicle". And with the advent
of Premier McSquinty, THEY tell YOU what constitutes a "historic
vehicle. Simply achieving 30 years old does *NOT* make a car ipso facto
exempt from smog checks.
Now if we throw McSquinty's Commies out in the next election, maybe we
can coax the the next bunch of wanna-be despots into reinstating the 20-
year rolling exemption... Hey guys, remember this at the polls.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> If the vehicle is 1987 and older it will be exempt since its last
> required testing was 2 yrs ago.
No, its last required testing is this year. The OP will discover this
when he goes to get his annual sticker.
In Ontario, you get your sticker renewal notice about 90 days in
advance, giving you lots of time to get something done about it.
> If the vehicle is 1988 and newer it
> will have to be tested until it reaches the federally reconized age to
> classify as "antique" which is 30 years old.
Wrong. There is no such DriveClean definition as "antique". Read the
DriveClean website's description. The ONLY allowance for emissions
exemption for a post-'87 car is "historic vehicle". And with the advent
of Premier McSquinty, THEY tell YOU what constitutes a "historic
vehicle. Simply achieving 30 years old does *NOT* make a car ipso facto
exempt from smog checks.
Now if we throw McSquinty's Commies out in the next election, maybe we
can coax the the next bunch of wanna-be despots into reinstating the 20-
year rolling exemption... Hey guys, remember this at the polls.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#50
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
coming out of that car?
Al
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns983E5C089CC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns983DE9CB1E86Btegger@
> 207.14.116.130:
>
>> Problem is, 20-year old cars make up perhaps 1% of the cars on the
> road.
>> And most of those are not daily drivers.
>>
>> Are you aware that the air is 57% cleaner in absolute terms now than it
>> was in 1970? That's in spite of a 153% increase in vehicular traffic.
>> The US federal EPA says so and you could look it up.
>>
>> Including 20+ cars is pure politics and social engineering. It
>> accomplishes nothing except make those cars more expensive and
>> problematic to own, which is the point.
>>
>
> All of this guilt trip over driving your car is to divert public
> attention from the WORST air polluters.....jet airplanes and power
> plants, the worst of the worst corporate polluters.
>
> Delta Airlines' jet fuel buyer was on MSNBC discussing fuel prices with
> the stock broker talking heads complaining this was eating into profits
> becuase JUST DELTA AIRLINES BURNED 9.4 BILLION GALLONS IN 2004!
>
> If we're REALLY interested in air quality, we need to turn off the oil
> burners that make my patio black with soot and build NUCLEAR power
> plants....
>
> I'm doing my part with my 33-year-old Mercedes 220 Diesel, shortly I
> hope:
> http://www.frybrid.com/
> At one corner near my home, I've already gotten commitments for over 190
> gallons of used frying oil per WEEK!...FREE!
> Jabulon's oil barons can kiss my ***!
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
coming out of that car?
Al
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns983E5C089CC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns983DE9CB1E86Btegger@
> 207.14.116.130:
>
>> Problem is, 20-year old cars make up perhaps 1% of the cars on the
> road.
>> And most of those are not daily drivers.
>>
>> Are you aware that the air is 57% cleaner in absolute terms now than it
>> was in 1970? That's in spite of a 153% increase in vehicular traffic.
>> The US federal EPA says so and you could look it up.
>>
>> Including 20+ cars is pure politics and social engineering. It
>> accomplishes nothing except make those cars more expensive and
>> problematic to own, which is the point.
>>
>
> All of this guilt trip over driving your car is to divert public
> attention from the WORST air polluters.....jet airplanes and power
> plants, the worst of the worst corporate polluters.
>
> Delta Airlines' jet fuel buyer was on MSNBC discussing fuel prices with
> the stock broker talking heads complaining this was eating into profits
> becuase JUST DELTA AIRLINES BURNED 9.4 BILLION GALLONS IN 2004!
>
> If we're REALLY interested in air quality, we need to turn off the oil
> burners that make my patio black with soot and build NUCLEAR power
> plants....
>
> I'm doing my part with my 33-year-old Mercedes 220 Diesel, shortly I
> hope:
> http://www.frybrid.com/
> At one corner near my home, I've already gotten commitments for over 190
> gallons of used frying oil per WEEK!...FREE!
> Jabulon's oil barons can kiss my ***!
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
#51
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
coming out of that car?
Al
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns983E5C089CC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns983DE9CB1E86Btegger@
> 207.14.116.130:
>
>> Problem is, 20-year old cars make up perhaps 1% of the cars on the
> road.
>> And most of those are not daily drivers.
>>
>> Are you aware that the air is 57% cleaner in absolute terms now than it
>> was in 1970? That's in spite of a 153% increase in vehicular traffic.
>> The US federal EPA says so and you could look it up.
>>
>> Including 20+ cars is pure politics and social engineering. It
>> accomplishes nothing except make those cars more expensive and
>> problematic to own, which is the point.
>>
>
> All of this guilt trip over driving your car is to divert public
> attention from the WORST air polluters.....jet airplanes and power
> plants, the worst of the worst corporate polluters.
>
> Delta Airlines' jet fuel buyer was on MSNBC discussing fuel prices with
> the stock broker talking heads complaining this was eating into profits
> becuase JUST DELTA AIRLINES BURNED 9.4 BILLION GALLONS IN 2004!
>
> If we're REALLY interested in air quality, we need to turn off the oil
> burners that make my patio black with soot and build NUCLEAR power
> plants....
>
> I'm doing my part with my 33-year-old Mercedes 220 Diesel, shortly I
> hope:
> http://www.frybrid.com/
> At one corner near my home, I've already gotten commitments for over 190
> gallons of used frying oil per WEEK!...FREE!
> Jabulon's oil barons can kiss my ***!
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
coming out of that car?
Al
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns983E5C089CC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns983DE9CB1E86Btegger@
> 207.14.116.130:
>
>> Problem is, 20-year old cars make up perhaps 1% of the cars on the
> road.
>> And most of those are not daily drivers.
>>
>> Are you aware that the air is 57% cleaner in absolute terms now than it
>> was in 1970? That's in spite of a 153% increase in vehicular traffic.
>> The US federal EPA says so and you could look it up.
>>
>> Including 20+ cars is pure politics and social engineering. It
>> accomplishes nothing except make those cars more expensive and
>> problematic to own, which is the point.
>>
>
> All of this guilt trip over driving your car is to divert public
> attention from the WORST air polluters.....jet airplanes and power
> plants, the worst of the worst corporate polluters.
>
> Delta Airlines' jet fuel buyer was on MSNBC discussing fuel prices with
> the stock broker talking heads complaining this was eating into profits
> becuase JUST DELTA AIRLINES BURNED 9.4 BILLION GALLONS IN 2004!
>
> If we're REALLY interested in air quality, we need to turn off the oil
> burners that make my patio black with soot and build NUCLEAR power
> plants....
>
> I'm doing my part with my 33-year-old Mercedes 220 Diesel, shortly I
> hope:
> http://www.frybrid.com/
> At one corner near my home, I've already gotten commitments for over 190
> gallons of used frying oil per WEEK!...FREE!
> Jabulon's oil barons can kiss my ***!
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
#52
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
coming out of that car?
Al
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns983E5C089CC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns983DE9CB1E86Btegger@
> 207.14.116.130:
>
>> Problem is, 20-year old cars make up perhaps 1% of the cars on the
> road.
>> And most of those are not daily drivers.
>>
>> Are you aware that the air is 57% cleaner in absolute terms now than it
>> was in 1970? That's in spite of a 153% increase in vehicular traffic.
>> The US federal EPA says so and you could look it up.
>>
>> Including 20+ cars is pure politics and social engineering. It
>> accomplishes nothing except make those cars more expensive and
>> problematic to own, which is the point.
>>
>
> All of this guilt trip over driving your car is to divert public
> attention from the WORST air polluters.....jet airplanes and power
> plants, the worst of the worst corporate polluters.
>
> Delta Airlines' jet fuel buyer was on MSNBC discussing fuel prices with
> the stock broker talking heads complaining this was eating into profits
> becuase JUST DELTA AIRLINES BURNED 9.4 BILLION GALLONS IN 2004!
>
> If we're REALLY interested in air quality, we need to turn off the oil
> burners that make my patio black with soot and build NUCLEAR power
> plants....
>
> I'm doing my part with my 33-year-old Mercedes 220 Diesel, shortly I
> hope:
> http://www.frybrid.com/
> At one corner near my home, I've already gotten commitments for over 190
> gallons of used frying oil per WEEK!...FREE!
> Jabulon's oil barons can kiss my ***!
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
coming out of that car?
Al
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns983E5C089CC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns983DE9CB1E86Btegger@
> 207.14.116.130:
>
>> Problem is, 20-year old cars make up perhaps 1% of the cars on the
> road.
>> And most of those are not daily drivers.
>>
>> Are you aware that the air is 57% cleaner in absolute terms now than it
>> was in 1970? That's in spite of a 153% increase in vehicular traffic.
>> The US federal EPA says so and you could look it up.
>>
>> Including 20+ cars is pure politics and social engineering. It
>> accomplishes nothing except make those cars more expensive and
>> problematic to own, which is the point.
>>
>
> All of this guilt trip over driving your car is to divert public
> attention from the WORST air polluters.....jet airplanes and power
> plants, the worst of the worst corporate polluters.
>
> Delta Airlines' jet fuel buyer was on MSNBC discussing fuel prices with
> the stock broker talking heads complaining this was eating into profits
> becuase JUST DELTA AIRLINES BURNED 9.4 BILLION GALLONS IN 2004!
>
> If we're REALLY interested in air quality, we need to turn off the oil
> burners that make my patio black with soot and build NUCLEAR power
> plants....
>
> I'm doing my part with my 33-year-old Mercedes 220 Diesel, shortly I
> hope:
> http://www.frybrid.com/
> At one corner near my home, I've already gotten commitments for over 190
> gallons of used frying oil per WEEK!...FREE!
> Jabulon's oil barons can kiss my ***!
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
#53
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> It was mentioned on one of the 5 year memorial TV shows... but they
were
> talking about how remarkably clear the skies were at the time of the
WTC
> attack, not after the planes were grounded.
>
> Mike
>
The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies,
went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most
beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way
until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I
haven't seen it since.
One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for
EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer
lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday,
we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson,
NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around
on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a
test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets,
IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions
from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A
computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the
cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon
system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about
1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that
screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster
of oil burners.
It's not your car......
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> It was mentioned on one of the 5 year memorial TV shows... but they
were
> talking about how remarkably clear the skies were at the time of the
WTC
> attack, not after the planes were grounded.
>
> Mike
>
The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies,
went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most
beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way
until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I
haven't seen it since.
One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for
EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer
lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday,
we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson,
NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around
on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a
test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets,
IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions
from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A
computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the
cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon
system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about
1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that
screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster
of oil burners.
It's not your car......
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
#54
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> It was mentioned on one of the 5 year memorial TV shows... but they
were
> talking about how remarkably clear the skies were at the time of the
WTC
> attack, not after the planes were grounded.
>
> Mike
>
The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies,
went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most
beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way
until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I
haven't seen it since.
One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for
EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer
lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday,
we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson,
NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around
on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a
test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets,
IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions
from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A
computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the
cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon
system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about
1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that
screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster
of oil burners.
It's not your car......
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> It was mentioned on one of the 5 year memorial TV shows... but they
were
> talking about how remarkably clear the skies were at the time of the
WTC
> attack, not after the planes were grounded.
>
> Mike
>
The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies,
went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most
beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way
until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I
haven't seen it since.
One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for
EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer
lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday,
we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson,
NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around
on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a
test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets,
IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions
from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A
computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the
cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon
system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about
1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that
screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster
of oil burners.
It's not your car......
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
#55
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> It was mentioned on one of the 5 year memorial TV shows... but they
were
> talking about how remarkably clear the skies were at the time of the
WTC
> attack, not after the planes were grounded.
>
> Mike
>
The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies,
went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most
beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way
until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I
haven't seen it since.
One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for
EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer
lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday,
we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson,
NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around
on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a
test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets,
IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions
from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A
computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the
cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon
system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about
1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that
screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster
of oil burners.
It's not your car......
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You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
news:SNydnRVBR49aeJTYnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@sedona.net:
> It was mentioned on one of the 5 year memorial TV shows... but they
were
> talking about how remarkably clear the skies were at the time of the
WTC
> attack, not after the planes were grounded.
>
> Mike
>
The sky over Charleston, SC, here on the trailing edge of the Westerlies,
went from its normal whitish grey with purple sunsets to the most
beautiful blue I think I've ever seen in my 60 years. It stayed that way
until the day AFTER they filled the skys with oil burners, again. I
haven't seen it since.
One of the jobs I used to do is run a mobile calibration laboratory for
EIL Instruments, a government electronics contractor. We towed a trailer
lab from FAA site to site calibrating their test equipment. One Sunday,
we ended up stranded at the FAA long range radar facility near Benson,
NC, in the Eastern corridor, a radar with a 300 mile range. I sat around
on my day off with the duty technicians in the radar room. They have a
test station, a full radar operating station you can see all the targets,
IFF targets FAA calls "Beacons", for about 300 miles in all directions
from the huge multimegawatt S-band radar beast rotating overhead. A
computer controls it all and presents the targets and you can put the
cursor over one of them and get all kinds of information from the beacon
system. The radar counted the targets on this Sunday afternoon in about
1980-81 in central NC. There were over 380 targets painted on that
screen, the REAL polluters of the air over North Carolina, a huge cluster
of oil burners.
It's not your car......
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"ajtessier" <ajtessier@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:qrmOg.142280
$5i3.45942@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
> coming out of that car?
>
>
Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will
completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if
allowed to continue.....
Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz
or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in
the power plant?
Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
$5i3.45942@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
> coming out of that car?
>
>
Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will
completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if
allowed to continue.....
Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz
or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in
the power plant?
Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"ajtessier" <ajtessier@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:qrmOg.142280
$5i3.45942@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
> coming out of that car?
>
>
Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will
completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if
allowed to continue.....
Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz
or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in
the power plant?
Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
$5i3.45942@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
> coming out of that car?
>
>
Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will
completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if
allowed to continue.....
Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz
or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in
the power plant?
Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
"ajtessier" <ajtessier@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:qrmOg.142280
$5i3.45942@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
> coming out of that car?
>
>
Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will
completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if
allowed to continue.....
Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz
or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in
the power plant?
Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
$5i3.45942@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> That's great for conserving our resources but how clean is the exhaust
> coming out of that car?
>
>
Oh, I'm sure if we read the oil company sponsored reports it will
completely cover the planet in 3" of frying oil in about 3 weeks, if
allowed to continue.....
Does it matter whether I burn 21 gallons of it over 1300 miles in the Benz
or the recovery company sells it to the electricity corporations to burn in
the power plant?
Pollution - Watching the Space Shuttle launch from Charleston, SC.....
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
>From the drive clean web site..
"If your car is a 1987 or earlier model, it leaves the program
permanently when it is 20 years old."
"2006 testing year.
vehicles required to be tested: 2001 1999 1997 1995 1993 1991 1989 1987
"
Take your car in this year and your done with the cash grab forever....
Snow...
#60
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Re: Ontario Emission DriveClean Test
>From the drive clean web site..
"If your car is a 1987 or earlier model, it leaves the program
permanently when it is 20 years old."
"2006 testing year.
vehicles required to be tested: 2001 1999 1997 1995 1993 1991 1989 1987
"
Take your car in this year and your done with the cash grab forever....
Snow...