OT; Nitrogen filled tires
05-15-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
Tony Hwang wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
first place?
> Hi,
> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
first place?
05-15-2008, 11:39 PM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
jim beam wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
>
> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
> first place?
Hi,
Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
>
> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
> first place?
Hi,
Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
05-15-2008, 11:59 PM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
Tony Hwang wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>>
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?
>
> Hi,
> Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
> When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
> bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
>
just do it yourself and fill at the next gas station.
there's a small advantage to nitrogen related to partial pressures, but
that only works on initial fill. after that, you may as well just
maintain pressure with free/cheaper air. you'll certainly never know
any difference driving around.
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>>
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?
>
> Hi,
> Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
> When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
> bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
>
just do it yourself and fill at the next gas station.
there's a small advantage to nitrogen related to partial pressures, but
that only works on initial fill. after that, you may as well just
maintain pressure with free/cheaper air. you'll certainly never know
any difference driving around.
05-16-2008, 12:12 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
Tony Hwang wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>>
>>
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?
>
>
> Hi,
> Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
> When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
> bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
>
Since air is mostly nitrogen anyway, you will just end up with less
nitrogen in the mix, which was probably not 100% nitrogen to begin with,
because the tires would have had some air in them before inflation.
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>>
>>
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?
>
>
> Hi,
> Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
> When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
> bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
>
Since air is mostly nitrogen anyway, you will just end up with less
nitrogen in the mix, which was probably not 100% nitrogen to begin with,
because the tires would have had some air in them before inflation.
05-16-2008, 07:11 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
> first place?
Indeed.
Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
--
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news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
> first place?
Indeed.
Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
--
Tegger
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05-16-2008, 08:03 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
In article <GX6Xj.141098$Cj7.136462@pd7urf2no>,
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
Google "atmosphere composition"
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
Google "atmosphere composition"
05-16-2008, 08:24 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9AA047F72250Ategger@207.14.116.130:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn
>>> filled tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?
>
> Indeed.
>
> Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
less O2 for the tires to absorb?
(internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)
--
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at
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news:Xns9AA047F72250Ategger@207.14.116.130:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn
>>> filled tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?
>
> Indeed.
>
> Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
less O2 for the tires to absorb?
(internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
05-16-2008, 08:50 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
Jim Yanik wrote:
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9AA047F72250Ategger@207.14.116.130:
>
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
>> news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn
>>>> filled tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.
that's why you shouldn't waste your money in the first place!
>
>>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>>> the first place?
>> Indeed.
>>
>> Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
>
>
> less O2 for the tires to absorb?
> (internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)
>
tires "absorb" [diffuse] oxygen from atmosphere anyway. if the tire is
100% nitrogen, oxygen will still diffuse in - partial pressures.
the only technical advantage to nitrogen is on the extreme performance
end of the spectrum where you may want to minimize oxygen for fire
protection, or water vapor [always present in air] for icing. like
aerospace.
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9AA047F72250Ategger@207.14.116.130:
>
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
>> news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn
>>>> filled tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.
that's why you shouldn't waste your money in the first place!
>
>>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>>> the first place?
>> Indeed.
>>
>> Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?
>
>
> less O2 for the tires to absorb?
> (internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)
>
tires "absorb" [diffuse] oxygen from atmosphere anyway. if the tire is
100% nitrogen, oxygen will still diffuse in - partial pressures.
the only technical advantage to nitrogen is on the extreme performance
end of the spectrum where you may want to minimize oxygen for fire
protection, or water vapor [always present in air] for icing. like
aerospace.
05-17-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
/sarc
>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
/sarc
05-17-2008, 11:47 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
JXStern wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
>
> if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>
> /sarc
>
>
>
Yup,
Begining with you first, LOL!
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
>
> if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>
> /sarc
>
>
>
Yup,
Begining with you first, LOL!
05-17-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
On May 17, 11:43 am, JXStern <JXSternChange...@gte.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <drago...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> >tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>
> /sarc
"Oh, the humanity!"
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <drago...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> >tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>
> /sarc
"Oh, the humanity!"
05-17-2008, 05:03 PM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
As I recall consumer reports did something about this and it works really
well........................ at sucking $$ from peoples pockets.
That's about all.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>
> /sarc
>
>
>
well........................ at sucking $$ from peoples pockets.
That's about all.
"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>
> if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>
> /sarc
>
>
>
05-18-2008, 12:22 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
Chuck wrote:
> As I recall consumer reports did something about this and it works really
> well........................ at sucking $$ from peoples pockets.
>
> That's about all.
>
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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>
>>On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>>
>>if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>>
>>/sarc
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Hi,
Our local Costco tirep shop only uses Nitrogen for some reason.
Their price is very good.
> As I recall consumer reports did something about this and it works really
> well........................ at sucking $$ from peoples pockets.
>
> That's about all.
>
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:38vt24l87nqvieq72p9oasbaeujv60dh9t@4ax.com...
>
>>On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
>>
>>if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.
>>
>>/sarc
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Hi,
Our local Costco tirep shop only uses Nitrogen for some reason.
Their price is very good.
05-18-2008, 02:26 AM
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Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires
"Chuck" <Pants_thresher2@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> As I recall consumer reports did something about this and it works really
> well........................ at sucking $$ from peoples pockets.
>
> That's about all.
>
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:38vt24l87nqvieq72p9oasbaeujv60dh9t@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
That is as may be but I can tell you this. It works wonders for tires when
the temps hit -35F and even colder.
Dave D