Charlie S

I drive on freeways and don't question spending money on tires and
brakes. I would not drive a car with missing or damaged wheel nuts. I
replaced a couple of the wheel studs on a Mazda pickup a few years
ago. I think I payed $2 or $3 each for them at an auto store. You hit
the stud with a hammer and it pops out the back. You may have to press
it out with big clamp if it's rusted in place.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:11:07 -0500, "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
><null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
>news:ieej10t51ua1e07s037jnvd8btqspui5fr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:44:23 -0500, "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >It was 7 lousy degrees out this morning. My beloved
>> >98 Civic HX is sitting in the barn waiting for the salt
>> >to wash away. Meanwhile, I am driving a 90 Dodge
>> >Omni with 178k on it. The Omni is my sacrificial anode.
>> >
>> >Anyway, one of the tires has a slow leak. I have to pump
>> >it up every morning. Every year I had put grease
>> >on the lugs otherwise the nuts rust on solid. I didn't grease
>> >it this year. Did I mention that it's cold?
>> >
>> >Is there a spray can fix that would get me about 3 months use?
>> >
>> I've used several pressurized canned products with good results.
>> I keep 2 cans in the trunk for emergency use. If I get a nail, it
>> buys me some time until I can get it fixed properly. Never tried it
>> long term.
>> One thing about Slime: You need to remove the valve core to install
>> and need a source of pressurized air after installing the valve core.
>> To me, this makes slime a non-contender for emergency use.
>
>I had - but couldn't find so bought another one today - a little
>12 volt air compressor. I don't believe I have every had a tire
>problem that was ever so severe that it wouldn't hold air for
>an hour or two. I really like these small 12 volt compressors.
>Sears is one source. Not only are they a great time and effort saver
>on the road, they can inflate basketballs, footballs, bicycle
>tires, etc. The one I got can pressurize up to 250 psi. It might
>take a day or so to get there, but that kind of pressure can be handy.
>
>From what I read, you can put the Slime in anytime you want -
>even before you have a leak - not that I am that ambitious.
>Sunday it is supposed to get all the way up to 32. I might
>try it then
>
> The canned
>> products I have used provided enough pressure (some gas...probably NOT
>> air) to be able to drive away
>>
>> P.S. I found the phrase "The Omni is my sacrificial anode" to be one
>> of the most intelligent and amusing things I have ever read on any
>> newsgroup....
>
>It is a consolation that my 14-year travail has brought mirth.
>

123.bam

Al Smith wrote:

> "123.bam" <"123.bam aat "@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:401990BC.8BAFE851@hotmail.com...
> > Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I'm going to try some Slime!
> > >
> > > Why? "Because Flats Suck."
> > > How can you argue with that?
> > >
> > > www.slime.com
> > >
> > > "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:101i725op8of273@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > It was 7 lousy degrees out this morning. My beloved
> > > > 98 Civic HX is sitting in the barn waiting for the salt
> > > > to wash away. Meanwhile, I am driving a 90 Dodge
> > > > Omni with 178k on it. The Omni is my sacrificial anode.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, one of the tires has a slow leak. I have to pump
> > > > it up every morning. Every year I had put grease
> > > > on the lugs otherwise the nuts rust on solid. I didn't grease
> > > > it this year. Did I mention that it's cold?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a spray can fix that would get me about 3 months use?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > that will work great against flats, but you might look into how well
> > it might perform at highway speeds in 20-30 degree f temperature. I
> > believe the "slime" is mostly for bicycles, for which hardly ever
> > exceed 30mpg.
> > I propose the slime will either freeze in one spot or not be thin
> > enough to coat the inside of the tire evenly at 50 mph that could
> > mean a very very unbalanced tire.
> >
>
> Au Contraire. If you would have looked at the link I provided -
> and I am shocked that you did not - slime can be used to -30 degrees F.
>
> Furthermore, use in automobiles is recommended.

Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
bead leaks
and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.

as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
anyway.

123.bam

Al Smith wrote:

> "123.bam" <"123.bam aat "@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:401990BC.8BAFE851@hotmail.com...
> > Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I'm going to try some Slime!
> > >
> > > Why? "Because Flats Suck."
> > > How can you argue with that?
> > >
> > > www.slime.com
> > >
> > > "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:101i725op8of273@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > It was 7 lousy degrees out this morning. My beloved
> > > > 98 Civic HX is sitting in the barn waiting for the salt
> > > > to wash away. Meanwhile, I am driving a 90 Dodge
> > > > Omni with 178k on it. The Omni is my sacrificial anode.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, one of the tires has a slow leak. I have to pump
> > > > it up every morning. Every year I had put grease
> > > > on the lugs otherwise the nuts rust on solid. I didn't grease
> > > > it this year. Did I mention that it's cold?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a spray can fix that would get me about 3 months use?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > that will work great against flats, but you might look into how well
> > it might perform at highway speeds in 20-30 degree f temperature. I
> > believe the "slime" is mostly for bicycles, for which hardly ever
> > exceed 30mpg.
> > I propose the slime will either freeze in one spot or not be thin
> > enough to coat the inside of the tire evenly at 50 mph that could
> > mean a very very unbalanced tire.
> >
>
> Au Contraire. If you would have looked at the link I provided -
> and I am shocked that you did not - slime can be used to -30 degrees F.
>
> Furthermore, use in automobiles is recommended.

Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
bead leaks
and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.

as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
anyway.

123.bam

Al Smith wrote:

> "123.bam" <"123.bam aat "@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:401990BC.8BAFE851@hotmail.com...
> > Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I'm going to try some Slime!
> > >
> > > Why? "Because Flats Suck."
> > > How can you argue with that?
> > >
> > > www.slime.com
> > >
> > > "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:101i725op8of273@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > It was 7 lousy degrees out this morning. My beloved
> > > > 98 Civic HX is sitting in the barn waiting for the salt
> > > > to wash away. Meanwhile, I am driving a 90 Dodge
> > > > Omni with 178k on it. The Omni is my sacrificial anode.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, one of the tires has a slow leak. I have to pump
> > > > it up every morning. Every year I had put grease
> > > > on the lugs otherwise the nuts rust on solid. I didn't grease
> > > > it this year. Did I mention that it's cold?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a spray can fix that would get me about 3 months use?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > that will work great against flats, but you might look into how well
> > it might perform at highway speeds in 20-30 degree f temperature. I
> > believe the "slime" is mostly for bicycles, for which hardly ever
> > exceed 30mpg.
> > I propose the slime will either freeze in one spot or not be thin
> > enough to coat the inside of the tire evenly at 50 mph that could
> > mean a very very unbalanced tire.
> >
>
> Au Contraire. If you would have looked at the link I provided -
> and I am shocked that you did not - slime can be used to -30 degrees F.
>
> Furthermore, use in automobiles is recommended.

Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
bead leaks
and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.

as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
anyway.

123.bam

Al Smith wrote:

> "123.bam" <"123.bam aat "@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:401990BC.8BAFE851@hotmail.com...
> > Al Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I'm going to try some Slime!
> > >
> > > Why? "Because Flats Suck."
> > > How can you argue with that?
> > >
> > > www.slime.com
> > >
> > > "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:101i725op8of273@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > It was 7 lousy degrees out this morning. My beloved
> > > > 98 Civic HX is sitting in the barn waiting for the salt
> > > > to wash away. Meanwhile, I am driving a 90 Dodge
> > > > Omni with 178k on it. The Omni is my sacrificial anode.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, one of the tires has a slow leak. I have to pump
> > > > it up every morning. Every year I had put grease
> > > > on the lugs otherwise the nuts rust on solid. I didn't grease
> > > > it this year. Did I mention that it's cold?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a spray can fix that would get me about 3 months use?
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > that will work great against flats, but you might look into how well
> > it might perform at highway speeds in 20-30 degree f temperature. I
> > believe the "slime" is mostly for bicycles, for which hardly ever
> > exceed 30mpg.
> > I propose the slime will either freeze in one spot or not be thin
> > enough to coat the inside of the tire evenly at 50 mph that could
> > mean a very very unbalanced tire.
> >
>
> Au Contraire. If you would have looked at the link I provided -
> and I am shocked that you did not - slime can be used to -30 degrees F.
>
> Furthermore, use in automobiles is recommended.

Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
bead leaks
and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.

as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
anyway.

Me

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:20:48 -0700, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

>
>In Albuquerque, Discount Tire Co. fixes flats for free. Sure it's just a
>gimmick to get new customers (or treat old customers right) but so what?
>
>I've heard stories (maybe urban legends) that the gas those cans put in the
>tire is flammable and there have been accidents when the flat fixer guy
>starts to remove the tire from the wheel.
>
>I only use the stuff in my wheelbarrow and rototiller tires.

At Hibdon Tire here in Oklahoma they always ask if you have it in
there and they charge you extra if you do. I think they charge double
if you didn't tell them. Ironically, they sell their own version that
they put in when they install the tire which supposedly turns the tire
leak-proof. Who knows....

Nate

Me

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:20:48 -0700, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

>
>In Albuquerque, Discount Tire Co. fixes flats for free. Sure it's just a
>gimmick to get new customers (or treat old customers right) but so what?
>
>I've heard stories (maybe urban legends) that the gas those cans put in the
>tire is flammable and there have been accidents when the flat fixer guy
>starts to remove the tire from the wheel.
>
>I only use the stuff in my wheelbarrow and rototiller tires.

At Hibdon Tire here in Oklahoma they always ask if you have it in
there and they charge you extra if you do. I think they charge double
if you didn't tell them. Ironically, they sell their own version that
they put in when they install the tire which supposedly turns the tire
leak-proof. Who knows....

Nate

Me

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:20:48 -0700, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

>
>In Albuquerque, Discount Tire Co. fixes flats for free. Sure it's just a
>gimmick to get new customers (or treat old customers right) but so what?
>
>I've heard stories (maybe urban legends) that the gas those cans put in the
>tire is flammable and there have been accidents when the flat fixer guy
>starts to remove the tire from the wheel.
>
>I only use the stuff in my wheelbarrow and rototiller tires.

At Hibdon Tire here in Oklahoma they always ask if you have it in
there and they charge you extra if you do. I think they charge double
if you didn't tell them. Ironically, they sell their own version that
they put in when they install the tire which supposedly turns the tire
leak-proof. Who knows....

Nate

Me

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:20:48 -0700, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

>
>In Albuquerque, Discount Tire Co. fixes flats for free. Sure it's just a
>gimmick to get new customers (or treat old customers right) but so what?
>
>I've heard stories (maybe urban legends) that the gas those cans put in the
>tire is flammable and there have been accidents when the flat fixer guy
>starts to remove the tire from the wheel.
>
>I only use the stuff in my wheelbarrow and rototiller tires.

At Hibdon Tire here in Oklahoma they always ask if you have it in
there and they charge you extra if you do. I think they charge double
if you didn't tell them. Ironically, they sell their own version that
they put in when they install the tire which supposedly turns the tire
leak-proof. Who knows....

Nate

Me

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:06:11 GMT, "123.bam" <"123.bam aat
"@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
>Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
>as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
>imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
>bead leaks
>and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
>happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
>all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
>do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.
>
>as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
>the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
>anyway.

If you don't care about the slight weight penalty, I got sick of
replacing tubes all the time due to stickers (those prickly seeds),
and I bought the foam rubber inner tubes from Wal-Mart. It was around
$14 a tire, but I've had them for two years without replacing a tube,
and I used to replace them every 3-4 months.

Nate

Me

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:06:11 GMT, "123.bam" <"123.bam aat
"@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
>Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
>as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
>imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
>bead leaks
>and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
>happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
>all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
>do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.
>
>as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
>the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
>anyway.

If you don't care about the slight weight penalty, I got sick of
replacing tubes all the time due to stickers (those prickly seeds),
and I bought the foam rubber inner tubes from Wal-Mart. It was around
$14 a tire, but I've had them for two years without replacing a tube,
and I used to replace them every 3-4 months.

Nate

Me

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:06:11 GMT, "123.bam" <"123.bam aat
"@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
>Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
>as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
>imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
>bead leaks
>and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
>happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
>all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
>do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.
>
>as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
>the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
>anyway.

If you don't care about the slight weight penalty, I got sick of
replacing tubes all the time due to stickers (those prickly seeds),
and I bought the foam rubber inner tubes from Wal-Mart. It was around
$14 a tire, but I've had them for two years without replacing a tube,
and I used to replace them every 3-4 months.

Nate

Me

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:06:11 GMT, "123.bam" <"123.bam aat
"@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ill stand partway corrected. my point being is their recommendation,
>Not recommended as a preventative for all 4 automotive tires. recommended
>as a repair only for automotive application due to possible tire
>imbalance. Not intended for speeds in excess of 75 m.p.h will not seal
>bead leaks
>and finally it has a recomended life span of 2 years. then what
>happens? do you add more? Do you have the tire dis-mounted cleaned of
>all the old goo. What happens if the goo after 2 years becomes a solid,
>do you replace the tires, re-balance them etc.
>
>as an emergency repair its good stuff, I use it in my bicycle tubes all
>the time and with good results but I replace the tubes every 2-3 years
>anyway.

If you don't care about the slight weight penalty, I got sick of
replacing tubes all the time due to stickers (those prickly seeds),
and I bought the foam rubber inner tubes from Wal-Mart. It was around
$14 a tire, but I've had them for two years without replacing a tube,
and I used to replace them every 3-4 months.

Nate