Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
etc, but no standby draw.

And also, this model does not have an alarm system. There's a digital
clock, though.

I also tried my "test bulb" on a '96 Civic (also with clock, no alarm),
and the bulb didn't light up at all. Puzzling.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
etc, but no standby draw.

And also, this model does not have an alarm system. There's a digital
clock, though.

I also tried my "test bulb" on a '96 Civic (also with clock, no alarm),
and the bulb didn't light up at all. Puzzling.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
etc, but no standby draw.

And also, this model does not have an alarm system. There's a digital
clock, though.

I also tried my "test bulb" on a '96 Civic (also with clock, no alarm),
and the bulb didn't light up at all. Puzzling.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
etc, but no standby draw.

And also, this model does not have an alarm system. There's a digital
clock, though.

I also tried my "test bulb" on a '96 Civic (also with clock, no alarm),
and the bulb didn't light up at all. Puzzling.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Sorry, I meant "..the Pioneer manuals *don't* mention.." Please excuse
me.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Sorry, I meant "..the Pioneer manuals *don't* mention.." Please excuse
me.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Sorry, I meant "..the Pioneer manuals *don't* mention.." Please excuse
me.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

Sorry, I meant "..the Pioneer manuals *don't* mention.." Please excuse
me.

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

sharx333 wrote:
> Yes, jim's right, there is 170mA *after* the Pioneer's fuse is
> disconnected. With it connected, the bulb glows brightly and it's too
> high for my ammeter.
>
> Strangely though, the battery has not discharged yet. I've left it
> connected for two days now without charging/starting it.

ok, so the battery is halfway good at least.

>
> And of course, all the measurements were taken with the Pioneer off,
> front panel dark, "demo" mode off..

ok, but the audio thing is a red herring - come back to that later.

>
> Hard to see how the wiring could be wrong, but yes, the standby draw
> seems too high. I'll look into the manual for the specs. Will post
> again ASAP.
>
> Many thanks.
>

look through the fuses making measurements - that'll tell you which
circuit to look in. as before, your drain indicates something like a 2w
bulb - look when it's night time!

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sharx333 wrote:
> Yes, jim's right, there is 170mA *after* the Pioneer's fuse is
> disconnected. With it connected, the bulb glows brightly and it's too
> high for my ammeter.
>
> Strangely though, the battery has not discharged yet. I've left it
> connected for two days now without charging/starting it.

ok, so the battery is halfway good at least.

>
> And of course, all the measurements were taken with the Pioneer off,
> front panel dark, "demo" mode off..

ok, but the audio thing is a red herring - come back to that later.

>
> Hard to see how the wiring could be wrong, but yes, the standby draw
> seems too high. I'll look into the manual for the specs. Will post
> again ASAP.
>
> Many thanks.
>

look through the fuses making measurements - that'll tell you which
circuit to look in. as before, your drain indicates something like a 2w
bulb - look when it's night time!

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

sharx333 wrote:
> Yes, jim's right, there is 170mA *after* the Pioneer's fuse is
> disconnected. With it connected, the bulb glows brightly and it's too
> high for my ammeter.
>
> Strangely though, the battery has not discharged yet. I've left it
> connected for two days now without charging/starting it.

ok, so the battery is halfway good at least.

>
> And of course, all the measurements were taken with the Pioneer off,
> front panel dark, "demo" mode off..

ok, but the audio thing is a red herring - come back to that later.

>
> Hard to see how the wiring could be wrong, but yes, the standby draw
> seems too high. I'll look into the manual for the specs. Will post
> again ASAP.
>
> Many thanks.
>

look through the fuses making measurements - that'll tell you which
circuit to look in. as before, your drain indicates something like a 2w
bulb - look when it's night time!

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

sharx333 wrote:
> Yes, jim's right, there is 170mA *after* the Pioneer's fuse is
> disconnected. With it connected, the bulb glows brightly and it's too
> high for my ammeter.
>
> Strangely though, the battery has not discharged yet. I've left it
> connected for two days now without charging/starting it.

ok, so the battery is halfway good at least.

>
> And of course, all the measurements were taken with the Pioneer off,
> front panel dark, "demo" mode off..

ok, but the audio thing is a red herring - come back to that later.

>
> Hard to see how the wiring could be wrong, but yes, the standby draw
> seems too high. I'll look into the manual for the specs. Will post
> again ASAP.
>
> Many thanks.
>

look through the fuses making measurements - that'll tell you which
circuit to look in. as before, your drain indicates something like a 2w
bulb - look when it's night time!

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda sharx333 <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
> draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
> etc, but no standby draw.

I could be wrong about the head unit. I was thinking of high power units
that can draw a lot of power. If this is is a lower power unit, it might
not have the high current lead. It would probably have a "pink" wire for
the low current memory lead, and the current required might be tiny, and
not mentioned in the consumer level manuals. I see a rating of 5mA for
some head units.

What about the light bulb in series with just the power for the Pioneer?
You could connect it across the fuse holder with the fuse out.
(The draw of the Pioneer is interesting to me. I don't know what the draw
for the rest of the car ought to be.)

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda sharx333 <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
> draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
> etc, but no standby draw.

I could be wrong about the head unit. I was thinking of high power units
that can draw a lot of power. If this is is a lower power unit, it might
not have the high current lead. It would probably have a "pink" wire for
the low current memory lead, and the current required might be tiny, and
not mentioned in the consumer level manuals. I see a rating of 5mA for
some head units.

What about the light bulb in series with just the power for the Pioneer?
You could connect it across the fuse holder with the fuse out.
(The draw of the Pioneer is interesting to me. I don't know what the draw
for the rest of the car ought to be.)

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

Re: Parasitic Drain - Bulb Trick
 

In rec.autos.makers.honda sharx333 <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even more strange, the Pioneer manuals doesn't mention standby power
> draw. It mentions allowable voltage range, max power draw, db levels
> etc, but no standby draw.

I could be wrong about the head unit. I was thinking of high power units
that can draw a lot of power. If this is is a lower power unit, it might
not have the high current lead. It would probably have a "pink" wire for
the low current memory lead, and the current required might be tiny, and
not mentioned in the consumer level manuals. I see a rating of 5mA for
some head units.

What about the light bulb in series with just the power for the Pioneer?
You could connect it across the fuse holder with the fuse out.
(The draw of the Pioneer is interesting to me. I don't know what the draw
for the rest of the car ought to be.)

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5