Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
sure everything was done well. So it is.

What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

By any chance does the noise go away after the car is warmed
up? Is it more like a ticking noise?

If so, all is well. It just means the valve lash is adjusted
on the large side, rather than the small, which is
preferable. If the valve lash is too small, a valve may
overheat and burn.

"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote
> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my
> wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After
> taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging
> noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job -
> everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another
> time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated,
> thanx.
>

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

By any chance does the noise go away after the car is warmed
up? Is it more like a ticking noise?

If so, all is well. It just means the valve lash is adjusted
on the large side, rather than the small, which is
preferable. If the valve lash is too small, a valve may
overheat and burn.

"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote
> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my
> wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After
> taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging
> noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job -
> everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another
> time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated,
> thanx.
>

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

By any chance does the noise go away after the car is warmed
up? Is it more like a ticking noise?

If so, all is well. It just means the valve lash is adjusted
on the large side, rather than the small, which is
preferable. If the valve lash is too small, a valve may
overheat and burn.

"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote
> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my
> wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After
> taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging
> noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job -
> everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another
> time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated,
> thanx.
>

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <1146592349.949304.304620@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.

Please check your repair manual and tell us whether or not your
car has a knock sensor.

You need to reset the timing.


Check these items:

It may be related to the spark plug wires or the spark plugs.

You may have a vacuum leak.

It may be related to the EGR valve.

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <1146592349.949304.304620@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.

Please check your repair manual and tell us whether or not your
car has a knock sensor.

You need to reset the timing.


Check these items:

It may be related to the spark plug wires or the spark plugs.

You may have a vacuum leak.

It may be related to the EGR valve.

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <1146592349.949304.304620@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.

Please check your repair manual and tell us whether or not your
car has a knock sensor.

You need to reset the timing.


Check these items:

It may be related to the spark plug wires or the spark plugs.

You may have a vacuum leak.

It may be related to the EGR valve.

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Unfortunatly, the noise does not go away when engine becomes warm. Not
sure about the ticking sound, it is not ''rpm syncro'' and it only
appears under load (when accelerating)

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Unfortunatly, the noise does not go away when engine becomes warm. Not
sure about the ticking sound, it is not ''rpm syncro'' and it only
appears under load (when accelerating)

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Unfortunatly, the noise does not go away when engine becomes warm. Not
sure about the ticking sound, it is not ''rpm syncro'' and it only
appears under load (when accelerating)

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

It does have a KS.
I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the problem
atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job

How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting element to me;

It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as the car gets
back here ;)

Thanx alot

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

It does have a KS.
I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the problem
atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job

How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting element to me;

It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as the car gets
back here ;)

Thanx alot

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

It does have a KS.
I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the problem
atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job

How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting element to me;

It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as the car gets
back here ;)

Thanx alot

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <1146601781.368749.7830@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It does have a KS.
> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the problem
> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
>
> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting element to me;
>
> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as the car gets
> back here ;)
>
> Thanx alot

You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions should come with
the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may be instuctions
in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone could post
the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to set the timing.
Perhaps you could ask one of your friends to show you how to do it.
It's really easy.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <1146601781.368749.7830@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It does have a KS.
> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the problem
> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
>
> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting element to me;
>
> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as the car gets
> back here ;)
>
> Thanx alot

You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions should come with
the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may be instuctions
in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone could post
the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to set the timing.
Perhaps you could ask one of your friends to show you how to do it.
It's really easy.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <1146601781.368749.7830@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>,
"doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It does have a KS.
> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the problem
> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
>
> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting element to me;
>
> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as the car gets
> back here ;)
>
> Thanx alot

You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions should come with
the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may be instuctions
in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone could post
the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to set the timing.
Perhaps you could ask one of your friends to show you how to do it.
It's really easy.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It does have a KS.
>> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the
>> problem
>> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
>>
>> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting
>> element to me;
>>
>> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as
>> the car gets
>> back here ;)
>>
>> Thanx alot
>
> You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions
> should come with
> the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may
> be instuctions
> in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone
> could post
> the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to
> set the timing.

The Chilton's manuals for Honda autos have the instructions
for setting the timing.

Jason is correct that after a timing belt job, one is
supposed to check and adjust as necessary the timing.

Here's a nice overview, with photos, for setting the timing
on an older Honda. Much or all of the steps should be the
same for a 98 Civic.

http://www.norcalcrx.org/ht.html#ignition

Also, the 97 Civic manual at
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html may replicate
the steps for a 98, but no guarantees. It's at least worth
reviewing.

I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
fancy is needed.

Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose bearings
make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they are
near failure.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It does have a KS.
>> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the
>> problem
>> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
>>
>> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting
>> element to me;
>>
>> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as
>> the car gets
>> back here ;)
>>
>> Thanx alot
>
> You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions
> should come with
> the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may
> be instuctions
> in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone
> could post
> the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to
> set the timing.

The Chilton's manuals for Honda autos have the instructions
for setting the timing.

Jason is correct that after a timing belt job, one is
supposed to check and adjust as necessary the timing.

Here's a nice overview, with photos, for setting the timing
on an older Honda. Much or all of the steps should be the
same for a 98 Civic.

http://www.norcalcrx.org/ht.html#ignition

Also, the 97 Civic manual at
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html may replicate
the steps for a 98, but no guarantees. It's at least worth
reviewing.

I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
fancy is needed.

Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose bearings
make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they are
near failure.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> It does have a KS.
>> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the
>> problem
>> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
>>
>> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting
>> element to me;
>>
>> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as
>> the car gets
>> back here ;)
>>
>> Thanx alot
>
> You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions
> should come with
> the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may
> be instuctions
> in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone
> could post
> the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to
> set the timing.

The Chilton's manuals for Honda autos have the instructions
for setting the timing.

Jason is correct that after a timing belt job, one is
supposed to check and adjust as necessary the timing.

Here's a nice overview, with photos, for setting the timing
on an older Honda. Much or all of the steps should be the
same for a 98 Civic.

http://www.norcalcrx.org/ht.html#ignition

Also, the 97 Civic manual at
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html may replicate
the steps for a 98, but no guarantees. It's at least worth
reviewing.

I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
fancy is needed.

Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose bearings
make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they are
near failure.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

doozcoopey wrote:
>
> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.


--------------------------------

Sounds like your timing is incorrect. Computer will do that if your
coolant is not absolutely full, or the timing was reset without putting
the service jumper on. Fill reservoir to MAX, per the owner's manual and
see if it gets better next day (then refill reservoir to MAX again). No
tap water.

'Curly'

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

doozcoopey wrote:
>
> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.


--------------------------------

Sounds like your timing is incorrect. Computer will do that if your
coolant is not absolutely full, or the timing was reset without putting
the service jumper on. Fill reservoir to MAX, per the owner's manual and
see if it gets better next day (then refill reservoir to MAX again). No
tap water.

'Curly'

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

doozcoopey wrote:
>
> Hi all, I recently replaced timing belt/water pump on my wife's 98
> civic. I also ajusted valves clearance as well. After taking the car
> for its first ride, my wife complained about a pinging noise that I
> immediatly validated. I checked back the belt job - everything was
> fine. I also did the valves clearance ajustement another time to make
> sure everything was done well. So it is.
>
> What happened here? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanx.


--------------------------------

Sounds like your timing is incorrect. Computer will do that if your
coolant is not absolutely full, or the timing was reset without putting
the service jumper on. Fill reservoir to MAX, per the owner's manual and
see if it gets better next day (then refill reservoir to MAX again). No
tap water.

'Curly'

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <57Q5g.2866$Vn.2412@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> > "doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It does have a KS.
> >> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the
> >> problem
> >> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
> >>
> >> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting
> >> element to me;
> >>
> >> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as
> >> the car gets
> >> back here ;)
> >>
> >> Thanx alot
> >
> > You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions
> > should come with
> > the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may
> > be instuctions
> > in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone
> > could post
> > the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to
> > set the timing.
>
> The Chilton's manuals for Honda autos have the instructions
> for setting the timing.
>
> Jason is correct that after a timing belt job, one is
> supposed to check and adjust as necessary the timing.
>
> Here's a nice overview, with photos, for setting the timing
> on an older Honda. Much or all of the steps should be the
> same for a 98 Civic.
>
> http://www.norcalcrx.org/ht.html#ignition
>
> Also, the 97 Civic manual at
> http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html may replicate
> the steps for a 98, but no guarantees. It's at least worth
> reviewing.
>
> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
> fancy is needed.
>
> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose bearings
> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they are
> near failure.

Elle,
Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of the
other mechanics.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <57Q5g.2866$Vn.2412@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> > "doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It does have a KS.
> >> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the
> >> problem
> >> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
> >>
> >> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting
> >> element to me;
> >>
> >> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as
> >> the car gets
> >> back here ;)
> >>
> >> Thanx alot
> >
> > You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions
> > should come with
> > the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may
> > be instuctions
> > in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone
> > could post
> > the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to
> > set the timing.
>
> The Chilton's manuals for Honda autos have the instructions
> for setting the timing.
>
> Jason is correct that after a timing belt job, one is
> supposed to check and adjust as necessary the timing.
>
> Here's a nice overview, with photos, for setting the timing
> on an older Honda. Much or all of the steps should be the
> same for a 98 Civic.
>
> http://www.norcalcrx.org/ht.html#ignition
>
> Also, the 97 Civic manual at
> http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html may replicate
> the steps for a 98, but no guarantees. It's at least worth
> reviewing.
>
> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
> fancy is needed.
>
> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose bearings
> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they are
> near failure.

Elle,
Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of the
other mechanics.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <57Q5g.2866$Vn.2412@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> > "doozcoopey" <jfhuot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It does have a KS.
> >> I dont think plugs or wires could be involved, since the
> >> problem
> >> atrated immediatly after the belt/valves job
> >>
> >> How do you reset timing? this is a new interresting
> >> element to me;
> >>
> >> It may have a vacuum leak, ill check for it as soon as
> >> the car gets
> >> back here ;)
> >>
> >> Thanx alot
> >
> > You need a timing light. Hopefully, the instructions
> > should come with
> > the timing light. If you have a repair manual, there may
> > be instuctions
> > in the manual on how to adjust the timing. Perhaps someone
> > could post
> > the URL of a website that provides instuctions on how to
> > set the timing.
>
> The Chilton's manuals for Honda autos have the instructions
> for setting the timing.
>
> Jason is correct that after a timing belt job, one is
> supposed to check and adjust as necessary the timing.
>
> Here's a nice overview, with photos, for setting the timing
> on an older Honda. Much or all of the steps should be the
> same for a 98 Civic.
>
> http://www.norcalcrx.org/ht.html#ignition
>
> Also, the 97 Civic manual at
> http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html may replicate
> the steps for a 98, but no guarantees. It's at least worth
> reviewing.
>
> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
> fancy is needed.
>
> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose bearings
> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they are
> near failure.

Elle,
Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of the
other mechanics.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
snip
>> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
>> fancy is needed.

Oops. I shopped Ebay, where timing lights move very fast,
but not being fast enough, I ended up happily buying an old
Craftsman timing light at a pawn shop for $15. The pawn shop
owner let me check it out in the parking lot, first.

>> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
>> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose
>> bearings
>> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they
>> are
>> near failure.
>
> Elle,
> Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
> really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
> it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of
> the
> other mechanics.

Likewise, Jason. I'd forgot that, of course the ignition
timing (the one adjusted by twisting the distributor
housing) can be affected with the installation of a new
timing belt.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
snip
>> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
>> fancy is needed.

Oops. I shopped Ebay, where timing lights move very fast,
but not being fast enough, I ended up happily buying an old
Craftsman timing light at a pawn shop for $15. The pawn shop
owner let me check it out in the parking lot, first.

>> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
>> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose
>> bearings
>> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they
>> are
>> near failure.
>
> Elle,
> Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
> really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
> it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of
> the
> other mechanics.

Likewise, Jason. I'd forgot that, of course the ignition
timing (the one adjusted by twisting the distributor
housing) can be affected with the installation of a new
timing belt.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
snip
>> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
>> fancy is needed.

Oops. I shopped Ebay, where timing lights move very fast,
but not being fast enough, I ended up happily buying an old
Craftsman timing light at a pawn shop for $15. The pawn shop
owner let me check it out in the parking lot, first.

>> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
>> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose
>> bearings
>> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they
>> are
>> near failure.
>
> Elle,
> Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
> really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
> it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of
> the
> other mechanics.

Likewise, Jason. I'd forgot that, of course the ignition
timing (the one adjusted by twisting the distributor
housing) can be affected with the installation of a new
timing belt.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <YLR5g.6284$An2.3296@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> snip
> >> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
> >> fancy is needed.
>
> Oops. I shopped Ebay, where timing lights move very fast,
> but not being fast enough, I ended up happily buying an old
> Craftsman timing light at a pawn shop for $15. The pawn shop
> owner let me check it out in the parking lot, first.
>
> >> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
> >> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose
> >> bearings
> >> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they
> >> are
> >> near failure.
> >
> > Elle,
> > Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
> > really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
> > it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of
> > the
> > other mechanics.
>
> Likewise, Jason. I'd forgot that, of course the ignition
> timing (the one adjusted by twisting the distributor
> housing) can be affected with the installation of a new
> timing belt.

Elle,
You are welcome. Keep up the great work. I wish that I knew
as much about the electronics related to engine controls as
you know. I was a mechanic's helper during those years (1960's)
before they had all of those electronics. It was easy to be
a mechanic in those days. I have a great amount of respect
for the new generation of mechanics. The only draw-back is the
excessive cost of testing equipment. Back in those days, almost
everyone did all of the mechanical work on their cars--that's
not true in these days.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <YLR5g.6284$An2.3296@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> snip
> >> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
> >> fancy is needed.
>
> Oops. I shopped Ebay, where timing lights move very fast,
> but not being fast enough, I ended up happily buying an old
> Craftsman timing light at a pawn shop for $15. The pawn shop
> owner let me check it out in the parking lot, first.
>
> >> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
> >> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose
> >> bearings
> >> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they
> >> are
> >> near failure.
> >
> > Elle,
> > Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
> > really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
> > it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of
> > the
> > other mechanics.
>
> Likewise, Jason. I'd forgot that, of course the ignition
> timing (the one adjusted by twisting the distributor
> housing) can be affected with the installation of a new
> timing belt.

Elle,
You are welcome. Keep up the great work. I wish that I knew
as much about the electronics related to engine controls as
you know. I was a mechanic's helper during those years (1960's)
before they had all of those electronics. It was easy to be
a mechanic in those days. I have a great amount of respect
for the new generation of mechanics. The only draw-back is the
excessive cost of testing equipment. Back in those days, almost
everyone did all of the mechanical work on their cars--that's
not true in these days.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

In article <YLR5g.6284$An2.3296@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> snip
> >> I bought my timing light on Ebay for about $15. Nothing
> >> fancy is needed.
>
> Oops. I shopped Ebay, where timing lights move very fast,
> but not being fast enough, I ended up happily buying an old
> Craftsman timing light at a pawn shop for $15. The pawn shop
> owner let me check it out in the parking lot, first.
>
> >> Not sure this is behind the pinging. I'd be a little
> >> concerned it was coming from the water pump, whose
> >> bearings
> >> make a high pitched cheap-cheap noise, for one, if they
> >> are
> >> near failure.
> >
> > Elle,
> > Thanks for your excellent post. You always seem to provide
> > really great advice. Keep up the great work. We appreciate
> > it. I have learned a lot from your posts and the posts of
> > the
> > other mechanics.
>
> Likewise, Jason. I'd forgot that, of course the ignition
> timing (the one adjusted by twisting the distributor
> housing) can be affected with the installation of a new
> timing belt.

Elle,
You are welcome. Keep up the great work. I wish that I knew
as much about the electronics related to engine controls as
you know. I was a mechanic's helper during those years (1960's)
before they had all of those electronics. It was easy to be
a mechanic in those days. I have a great amount of respect
for the new generation of mechanics. The only draw-back is the
excessive cost of testing equipment. Back in those days, almost
everyone did all of the mechanical work on their cars--that's
not true in these days.
Jason

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Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Thanx alot for the links. I am pretty familiar with the timing light
procedure. I thought it was electronicaly controlled or something like
that. Ill check for that too. Thanx alot again.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Thanx alot for the links. I am pretty familiar with the timing light
procedure. I thought it was electronicaly controlled or something like
that. Ill check for that too. Thanx alot again.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

Thanx alot for the links. I am pretty familiar with the timing light
procedure. I thought it was electronicaly controlled or something like
that. Ill check for that too. Thanx alot again.

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

The coolant may not be full as i also replaced the water pump. Why the
computer would retard/advance ignition because the coolant is not full?
What about the timing reset without the service jumper? fill me!
thanx alot all, I now have 3 good points to check: vacuum leak, timing
degree and coolant level!
Im closer and closer ;)

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

The coolant may not be full as i also replaced the water pump. Why the
computer would retard/advance ignition because the coolant is not full?
What about the timing reset without the service jumper? fill me!
thanx alot all, I now have 3 good points to check: vacuum leak, timing
degree and coolant level!
Im closer and closer ;)

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

The coolant may not be full as i also replaced the water pump. Why the
computer would retard/advance ignition because the coolant is not full?
What about the timing reset without the service jumper? fill me!
thanx alot all, I now have 3 good points to check: vacuum leak, timing
degree and coolant level!
Im closer and closer ;)

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

doozcoopey wrote:
>
> Thanx alot for the links. I am pretty familiar with the timing light
> procedure. I thought it was electronicaly controlled or something like
> that. Ill check for that too. Thanx alot again.


---------------------------------

Keep in mind that changing the TB shouldn't throw the ignition timing
out by more than a degree or two. If you find that it's out about 10+
degrees, you can be sure the new belt is not timed correctly (cam
timing), or the OLD BELT was not timed correctly, and somebody
previously adjusted the ignition timing to compensate. Telltale sign:
The distributor should sit in the middle of it's adjustment 'range'. If
it's all the way to one side, something's really wrong.

Since you mentioned water pump, I mentioned AIR in the system (and
heater core). The computer may 'compensate' for a wrong temp reading by
changing timing and fuel-air mix = ping.

'Curly'

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

doozcoopey wrote:
>
> Thanx alot for the links. I am pretty familiar with the timing light
> procedure. I thought it was electronicaly controlled or something like
> that. Ill check for that too. Thanx alot again.


---------------------------------

Keep in mind that changing the TB shouldn't throw the ignition timing
out by more than a degree or two. If you find that it's out about 10+
degrees, you can be sure the new belt is not timed correctly (cam
timing), or the OLD BELT was not timed correctly, and somebody
previously adjusted the ignition timing to compensate. Telltale sign:
The distributor should sit in the middle of it's adjustment 'range'. If
it's all the way to one side, something's really wrong.

Since you mentioned water pump, I mentioned AIR in the system (and
heater core). The computer may 'compensate' for a wrong temp reading by
changing timing and fuel-air mix = ping.

'Curly'

Re: Pinging noise on 98 civic after valves ajustment
 

doozcoopey wrote:
>
> Thanx alot for the links. I am pretty familiar with the timing light
> procedure. I thought it was electronicaly controlled or something like
> that. Ill check for that too. Thanx alot again.


---------------------------------

Keep in mind that changing the TB shouldn't throw the ignition timing
out by more than a degree or two. If you find that it's out about 10+
degrees, you can be sure the new belt is not timed correctly (cam
timing), or the OLD BELT was not timed correctly, and somebody
previously adjusted the ignition timing to compensate. Telltale sign:
The distributor should sit in the middle of it's adjustment 'range'. If
it's all the way to one side, something's really wrong.

Since you mentioned water pump, I mentioned AIR in the system (and
heater core). The computer may 'compensate' for a wrong temp reading by
changing timing and fuel-air mix = ping.

'Curly'