Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
TheDuck@pond.net says...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the Venture.
> The reliability is no better there.
Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
Dave
TheDuck@pond.net says...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the Venture.
> The reliability is no better there.
Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
Dave
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
TheDuck@pond.net says...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the Venture.
> The reliability is no better there.
Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
Dave
TheDuck@pond.net says...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the Venture.
> The reliability is no better there.
Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
Dave
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
TheDuck@pond.net says...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the Venture.
> The reliability is no better there.
Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
Dave
TheDuck@pond.net says...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the Venture.
> The reliability is no better there.
Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
Dave
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed in
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
problems are fixed....
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.203a7271ef574bec98a173@207.14.116.130...
> In article <tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> ,
> TheDuck@pond.net says...
>
>> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
>> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
>> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
>> Venture.
>> The reliability is no better there.
>
> Except he's talking about an 07 Odyssey, not an 02. The transmission
> problems that plagued the V6-powered Odysseys and Accords have, for the
> most part, been resolved since then. And he's gotta be living right
> since he also mentioned he has an 01 Accord V6 with 175K miles on it.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
news:45d0143e$0$27183$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Seth wrote:
>> Dealer is offering it to us for $29,438, so we're pretty happy with
>> that.
>
> That's about right if it's for the EX-L with the DVD, and a good deal if
> it's for the EX-L with the DVD + navigation, but it's about $1000 high for
> the plain EX-L.
Good to know.
I've since gotten an email offer from another Honda dealer I contacted
through edmunds.com for 27,989.
I'll see if my preferred dealer will match that.
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
#44
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
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Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.
news:elmop-9E22B5.06445612022007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <6DQzh.259$rW7.186@newsfe10.lga>,
> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I *know* that getting an Odyssey would not be a mistake. Same with the
>> Sienna. I don't think the R350 would be a mistake either, especially
>> since
>> it's only a 27month lease. What the hell could go wrong in 27 months?
>
> Well, hell, you could save yourself some dough and get another GM if
> you're going to dump it 27 months/27,000 miles.
Except the GM doesn't lease as well. The higher end cars lease much better
if that's the route I choose to take.
> I like the way you put it, though--the German car (which overall is a
> mistake) *should* be OK for 27 months...
I've had German in the past and my last 2 motorcycles have been German with
no issues.