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Seth 02-12-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
> Venture. The reliability is no better there.


I'm not buying an '02 Odyssey...



Seth 02-12-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
> Venture. The reliability is no better there.


I'm not buying an '02 Odyssey...



Seth 02-12-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
> Venture. The reliability is no better there.


I'm not buying an '02 Odyssey...



Seth 02-12-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:tR_zh.62785$wc5.48556@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net...
> Before you harp all the praise on the jap cars look at the 2002 Odyssey
> problems on www.odyclub.com . With their transmission, EGR, IAC valve and
> other problems they are far worse than the problems you had on the
> Venture. The reliability is no better there.


I'm not buying an '02 Odyssey...



Seth 02-12-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:Td4Ah.26467$yC5.5900@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed
> in the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
> problems are fixed....


I'm comparing it against an '02 GM only because that's the only GM I
currently have. None of my previous GMs have felt reliable at high mileage.
Meanwhile I've had 3 Hondas do well for me well past the 100K mark. My
current '01 Accord is one of the ones that were plagued by transmission
problems. I'm now at 175,000 miles with no problems with the tranny and the
only problems were a wheel bearing ($225 to replace at 130,000 miles) and
now I need my EGR serviced.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:Td4Ah.26467$yC5.5900@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed
> in the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
> problems are fixed....


I'm comparing it against an '02 GM only because that's the only GM I
currently have. None of my previous GMs have felt reliable at high mileage.
Meanwhile I've had 3 Hondas do well for me well past the 100K mark. My
current '01 Accord is one of the ones that were plagued by transmission
problems. I'm now at 175,000 miles with no problems with the tranny and the
only problems were a wheel bearing ($225 to replace at 130,000 miles) and
now I need my EGR serviced.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:Td4Ah.26467$yC5.5900@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed
> in the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
> problems are fixed....


I'm comparing it against an '02 GM only because that's the only GM I
currently have. None of my previous GMs have felt reliable at high mileage.
Meanwhile I've had 3 Hondas do well for me well past the 100K mark. My
current '01 Accord is one of the ones that were plagued by transmission
problems. I'm now at 175,000 miles with no problems with the tranny and the
only problems were a wheel bearing ($225 to replace at 130,000 miles) and
now I need my EGR serviced.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:Td4Ah.26467$yC5.5900@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> But he is comparing it to a 2002. The problems he had then are also fixed
> in the 07 GM cars. The 07 Odyssey hasn't been out long enough to say the
> problems are fixed....


I'm comparing it against an '02 GM only because that's the only GM I
currently have. None of my previous GMs have felt reliable at high mileage.
Meanwhile I've had 3 Hondas do well for me well past the 100K mark. My
current '01 Accord is one of the ones that were plagued by transmission
problems. I'm now at 175,000 miles with no problems with the tranny and the
only problems were a wheel bearing ($225 to replace at 130,000 miles) and
now I need my EGR serviced.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171296370.934789.11980@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 11, 8:01 pm, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
>> Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
>> better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
>> passenger.

>
> We did the same thing. I could have lived with either one (we were
> going to buy whichever had the better deal) but I actually thought the
> Odyssey had a little firmer ride and handled a little better.
> Everything about the Sienna was so light-feeling. I like a little
> 'heft' and feeling in my controls. That, the 8-seating capability and
> an excellent lease deal had us buy thr Odyssey.


I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

> Since you have an AWD van now, I'm assuming you live in the snow belt
> somewhere...? So, unless you're talking about the 4matic version of
> the Benz, I'd pass on the R350.


Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171296370.934789.11980@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 11, 8:01 pm, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
>> Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
>> better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
>> passenger.

>
> We did the same thing. I could have lived with either one (we were
> going to buy whichever had the better deal) but I actually thought the
> Odyssey had a little firmer ride and handled a little better.
> Everything about the Sienna was so light-feeling. I like a little
> 'heft' and feeling in my controls. That, the 8-seating capability and
> an excellent lease deal had us buy thr Odyssey.


I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

> Since you have an AWD van now, I'm assuming you live in the snow belt
> somewhere...? So, unless you're talking about the 4matic version of
> the Benz, I'd pass on the R350.


Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171296370.934789.11980@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 11, 8:01 pm, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
>> Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
>> better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
>> passenger.

>
> We did the same thing. I could have lived with either one (we were
> going to buy whichever had the better deal) but I actually thought the
> Odyssey had a little firmer ride and handled a little better.
> Everything about the Sienna was so light-feeling. I like a little
> 'heft' and feeling in my controls. That, the 8-seating capability and
> an excellent lease deal had us buy thr Odyssey.


I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

> Since you have an AWD van now, I'm assuming you live in the snow belt
> somewhere...? So, unless you're talking about the 4matic version of
> the Benz, I'd pass on the R350.


Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Dano58" <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171296370.934789.11980@j27g2000cwj.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 11, 8:01 pm, "Seth" <seth_lermanNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but my wife went and drove it Thursday.
>> Today we both tried out the Sienna. Very nice. My wife liked the drive
>> better than the Odyssey. But the Sienna, in the XLE level, only comes 7
>> passenger.

>
> We did the same thing. I could have lived with either one (we were
> going to buy whichever had the better deal) but I actually thought the
> Odyssey had a little firmer ride and handled a little better.
> Everything about the Sienna was so light-feeling. I like a little
> 'heft' and feeling in my controls. That, the 8-seating capability and
> an excellent lease deal had us buy thr Odyssey.


I haven't driven the Odyssey yet, but I was very impressed with the way the
'07 Sienna rode. My wife has driven both and thought the Sienna was a
little better. But the 8 passenger seating has her swaying towards the
Odyssey along with my Accords track record.

> Since you have an AWD van now, I'm assuming you live in the snow belt
> somewhere...? So, unless you're talking about the 4matic version of
> the Benz, I'd pass on the R350.


Yeah, 70 miles north of NYC and I work in Lyndhurst, NJ. On the MB, yes,
4Matic. But even if we were to get the Sienna, not going for the AWD. Just
gonna get a spare set of rims to through some snow tires on. Those 5 days a
year where AWD is required over FWD, she can stay home like I do.



Seth 02-12-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:e_0Ah.727$tD2.102@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> We have a Odyssey 06 Touring model. Fine car though leather seats are a
> bit hard. Interior of Sienna reminded me of a Ford Taurus. Both are
> good cars. Read consumer reports review at library. For better handling
> get the Odyssey. For slightly softer ride get the Sienna. I would go
> with the better dealer if it was a toss up. Odyssey should be cheaper to
> take home feature for feature.


So far it is. The Sienna FWD, 7-pas XLE with the leather package is $31K
while a quote emailed to me earlier today has the 8-pas Odyssey EX-L at
27,989.

Wife likes the 8th seat in the Odyssey (as well as Honda's proven track
record with previous cars we've had) more than the electric tailgate (which
is included in the '07 Touring Odyssey).



Seth 02-12-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:e_0Ah.727$tD2.102@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> We have a Odyssey 06 Touring model. Fine car though leather seats are a
> bit hard. Interior of Sienna reminded me of a Ford Taurus. Both are
> good cars. Read consumer reports review at library. For better handling
> get the Odyssey. For slightly softer ride get the Sienna. I would go
> with the better dealer if it was a toss up. Odyssey should be cheaper to
> take home feature for feature.


So far it is. The Sienna FWD, 7-pas XLE with the leather package is $31K
while a quote emailed to me earlier today has the 8-pas Odyssey EX-L at
27,989.

Wife likes the 8th seat in the Odyssey (as well as Honda's proven track
record with previous cars we've had) more than the electric tailgate (which
is included in the '07 Touring Odyssey).



Seth 02-12-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Probably gonna get an Odyssey...
 
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:e_0Ah.727$tD2.102@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> We have a Odyssey 06 Touring model. Fine car though leather seats are a
> bit hard. Interior of Sienna reminded me of a Ford Taurus. Both are
> good cars. Read consumer reports review at library. For better handling
> get the Odyssey. For slightly softer ride get the Sienna. I would go
> with the better dealer if it was a toss up. Odyssey should be cheaper to
> take home feature for feature.


So far it is. The Sienna FWD, 7-pas XLE with the leather package is $31K
while a quote emailed to me earlier today has the 8-pas Odyssey EX-L at
27,989.

Wife likes the 8th seat in the Odyssey (as well as Honda's proven track
record with previous cars we've had) more than the electric tailgate (which
is included in the '07 Touring Odyssey).




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