Howard Lester

"Howard" wrote

> You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
fact.
> I don't know what else he may have told you.
> The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
> between the two are the options that are in either one.
> Howard

The interior dimensions differ. From my 2004 Accord brochure:

Headroom front/rear:

LX: 40.4/38.5

EX: 38.3/36.8

I'm sorry, Murray, that you didn't get to first test the EX before buying.
Do your best with it - it's got a lot of neat do-dads that the LX doesn't
have.

[the first] Howard

Howard Lester

"Howard" wrote

> You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
fact.
> I don't know what else he may have told you.
> The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
> between the two are the options that are in either one.
> Howard

The interior dimensions differ. From my 2004 Accord brochure:

Headroom front/rear:

LX: 40.4/38.5

EX: 38.3/36.8

I'm sorry, Murray, that you didn't get to first test the EX before buying.
Do your best with it - it's got a lot of neat do-dads that the LX doesn't
have.

[the first] Howard

Murray

Jack,
It looks like, if I sitick with the EX, I will have to do what you suggest,
and sit down and then swivel.
Yes, in all the 16+ cars I've owned previously, I've just slid in, almost
sideways.
The only other time I had to sit and then turn was when I was leaving the
hospital, as a passenger, after a hip replacement.

"Jack" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LN-dnZzXc-FP_gbfRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
>
> There is a little less head room in the EX because of the noon roof.
> Murray is probably making the mistake of trying to walk into his car!
> Murray sit your *** down first!
> "Howard" <howardh@nospam-cybrstar.com> wrote in message
> news:YUIme.45435$J25.24160@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
> > You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
> > fact.
> > I don't know what else he may have told you.
> > The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
> > between the two are the options that are in either one.
> > Howard
> > "Murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > news:iQHme.26952$NZ1.14735@fe09.lga...
> >>
> >> Howard,
> >> Your comment regarding the Accord LX refreshed my memory.
> >> When I took a test drive prior to the purchase of the EX, it was on an
> >> Accord LX and I had absolutely no problems getting in and out of the
> >> vehicle.
> >> The salesperson said that they didn't have an EX available for the test
> >> drive but that the EX and LX were physically identical. That may have
> >> been
> > a
> >> mistake on my part in believing that statement.
> >>
> >> "Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
> >> news:119mfjke879vg90@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >
> >> > Murray, I just tried this out in my 2004 EX and I think I can see why
> >> you'd
> >> > have this problem. The windshield and its frame is very steep, and
> >> > especially with the seat forward and "up," the tendency would be to
get
> > in
> >> > at a point where the rise of the window frame isn't even near where
it
> > is
> >> at
> >> > its tallest. I'm 5' 9" and have not hit my head on mine; I think I
must
> >> just
> >> > be aware of it on some level and avoid it. Note that there is not as
> > much
> >> > headroom in the EX as in the LX because of the sunroof, though I
don't
> >> know
> >> > if the body frame is different and would make any difference there...
> >> Still,
> >> > all I can suggest is that you stay conscious (really!) and be aware
of
> >> this.
> >> > I bet you are confusing this new car with your other cars and getting
> >> > in
> >> and
> >> > out the very same way.
> >> >
> >> > I have a cousin who is your age and just bought a 2005 Accord LX two
> > days
> >> > ago. He's taller than you and I didn't see him or his wife having
and
> >> such
> >> > trouble. Try adjusting the way you get in - yes, you have to duck. I
> > hope
> >> > you get used to the new procedure and enjoy your new car. Head
injuries
> >> are
> >> > the worst!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Murray

Jack,
It looks like, if I sitick with the EX, I will have to do what you suggest,
and sit down and then swivel.
Yes, in all the 16+ cars I've owned previously, I've just slid in, almost
sideways.
The only other time I had to sit and then turn was when I was leaving the
hospital, as a passenger, after a hip replacement.

"Jack" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LN-dnZzXc-FP_gbfRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
>
> There is a little less head room in the EX because of the noon roof.
> Murray is probably making the mistake of trying to walk into his car!
> Murray sit your *** down first!
> "Howard" <howardh@nospam-cybrstar.com> wrote in message
> news:YUIme.45435$J25.24160@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
> > You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
> > fact.
> > I don't know what else he may have told you.
> > The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
> > between the two are the options that are in either one.
> > Howard
> > "Murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > news:iQHme.26952$NZ1.14735@fe09.lga...
> >>
> >> Howard,
> >> Your comment regarding the Accord LX refreshed my memory.
> >> When I took a test drive prior to the purchase of the EX, it was on an
> >> Accord LX and I had absolutely no problems getting in and out of the
> >> vehicle.
> >> The salesperson said that they didn't have an EX available for the test
> >> drive but that the EX and LX were physically identical. That may have
> >> been
> > a
> >> mistake on my part in believing that statement.
> >>
> >> "Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
> >> news:119mfjke879vg90@corp.supernews.com...
> >> >
> >> > Murray, I just tried this out in my 2004 EX and I think I can see why
> >> you'd
> >> > have this problem. The windshield and its frame is very steep, and
> >> > especially with the seat forward and "up," the tendency would be to
get
> > in
> >> > at a point where the rise of the window frame isn't even near where
it
> > is
> >> at
> >> > its tallest. I'm 5' 9" and have not hit my head on mine; I think I
must
> >> just
> >> > be aware of it on some level and avoid it. Note that there is not as
> > much
> >> > headroom in the EX as in the LX because of the sunroof, though I
don't
> >> know
> >> > if the body frame is different and would make any difference there...
> >> Still,
> >> > all I can suggest is that you stay conscious (really!) and be aware
of
> >> this.
> >> > I bet you are confusing this new car with your other cars and getting
> >> > in
> >> and
> >> > out the very same way.
> >> >
> >> > I have a cousin who is your age and just bought a 2005 Accord LX two
> > days
> >> > ago. He's taller than you and I didn't see him or his wife having
and
> >> such
> >> > trouble. Try adjusting the way you get in - yes, you have to duck. I
> > hope
> >> > you get used to the new procedure and enjoy your new car. Head
injuries
> >> are
> >> > the worst!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Jack

Murray stick with the EX you'll grow to love it.
No idea what part of the world you live in, but if live in a snowy winter
climate like I do, before swinging your legs into that nice EX bang your
shoes together to get all that shitty snow and salt off.
Enjoy.
"Murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:llKme.1504$hg.794@fe12.lga...
>
> Jack,
> It looks like, if I sitick with the EX, I will have to do what you
> suggest,
> and sit down and then swivel.
> Yes, in all the 16+ cars I've owned previously, I've just slid in, almost
> sideways.
> The only other time I had to sit and then turn was when I was leaving the
> hospital, as a passenger, after a hip replacement.
>
> "Jack" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LN-dnZzXc-FP_gbfRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
>>
>> There is a little less head room in the EX because of the noon roof.
>> Murray is probably making the mistake of trying to walk into his car!
>> Murray sit your *** down first!
>> "Howard" <howardh@nospam-cybrstar.com> wrote in message
>> news:YUIme.45435$J25.24160@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
>> > You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
>> > fact.
>> > I don't know what else he may have told you.
>> > The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
>> > between the two are the options that are in either one.
>> > Howard
>> > "Murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> > news:iQHme.26952$NZ1.14735@fe09.lga...
>> >>
>> >> Howard,
>> >> Your comment regarding the Accord LX refreshed my memory.
>> >> When I took a test drive prior to the purchase of the EX, it was on an
>> >> Accord LX and I had absolutely no problems getting in and out of the
>> >> vehicle.
>> >> The salesperson said that they didn't have an EX available for the
>> >> test
>> >> drive but that the EX and LX were physically identical. That may have
>> >> been
>> > a
>> >> mistake on my part in believing that statement.
>> >>
>> >> "Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:119mfjke879vg90@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Murray, I just tried this out in my 2004 EX and I think I can see
>> >> > why
>> >> you'd
>> >> > have this problem. The windshield and its frame is very steep, and
>> >> > especially with the seat forward and "up," the tendency would be to
> get
>> > in
>> >> > at a point where the rise of the window frame isn't even near where
> it
>> > is
>> >> at
>> >> > its tallest. I'm 5' 9" and have not hit my head on mine; I think I
> must
>> >> just
>> >> > be aware of it on some level and avoid it. Note that there is not as
>> > much
>> >> > headroom in the EX as in the LX because of the sunroof, though I
> don't
>> >> know
>> >> > if the body frame is different and would make any difference
>> >> > there...
>> >> Still,
>> >> > all I can suggest is that you stay conscious (really!) and be aware
> of
>> >> this.
>> >> > I bet you are confusing this new car with your other cars and
>> >> > getting
>> >> > in
>> >> and
>> >> > out the very same way.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a cousin who is your age and just bought a 2005 Accord LX two
>> > days
>> >> > ago. He's taller than you and I didn't see him or his wife having
> and
>> >> such
>> >> > trouble. Try adjusting the way you get in - yes, you have to duck. I
>> > hope
>> >> > you get used to the new procedure and enjoy your new car. Head
> injuries
>> >> are
>> >> > the worst!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Jack

Murray stick with the EX you'll grow to love it.
No idea what part of the world you live in, but if live in a snowy winter
climate like I do, before swinging your legs into that nice EX bang your
shoes together to get all that shitty snow and salt off.
Enjoy.
"Murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:llKme.1504$hg.794@fe12.lga...
>
> Jack,
> It looks like, if I sitick with the EX, I will have to do what you
> suggest,
> and sit down and then swivel.
> Yes, in all the 16+ cars I've owned previously, I've just slid in, almost
> sideways.
> The only other time I had to sit and then turn was when I was leaving the
> hospital, as a passenger, after a hip replacement.
>
> "Jack" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LN-dnZzXc-FP_gbfRVn-3Q@rogers.com...
>>
>> There is a little less head room in the EX because of the noon roof.
>> Murray is probably making the mistake of trying to walk into his car!
>> Murray sit your *** down first!
>> "Howard" <howardh@nospam-cybrstar.com> wrote in message
>> news:YUIme.45435$J25.24160@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
>> > You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
>> > fact.
>> > I don't know what else he may have told you.
>> > The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
>> > between the two are the options that are in either one.
>> > Howard
>> > "Murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> > news:iQHme.26952$NZ1.14735@fe09.lga...
>> >>
>> >> Howard,
>> >> Your comment regarding the Accord LX refreshed my memory.
>> >> When I took a test drive prior to the purchase of the EX, it was on an
>> >> Accord LX and I had absolutely no problems getting in and out of the
>> >> vehicle.
>> >> The salesperson said that they didn't have an EX available for the
>> >> test
>> >> drive but that the EX and LX were physically identical. That may have
>> >> been
>> > a
>> >> mistake on my part in believing that statement.
>> >>
>> >> "Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:119mfjke879vg90@corp.supernews.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Murray, I just tried this out in my 2004 EX and I think I can see
>> >> > why
>> >> you'd
>> >> > have this problem. The windshield and its frame is very steep, and
>> >> > especially with the seat forward and "up," the tendency would be to
> get
>> > in
>> >> > at a point where the rise of the window frame isn't even near where
> it
>> > is
>> >> at
>> >> > its tallest. I'm 5' 9" and have not hit my head on mine; I think I
> must
>> >> just
>> >> > be aware of it on some level and avoid it. Note that there is not as
>> > much
>> >> > headroom in the EX as in the LX because of the sunroof, though I
> don't
>> >> know
>> >> > if the body frame is different and would make any difference
>> >> > there...
>> >> Still,
>> >> > all I can suggest is that you stay conscious (really!) and be aware
> of
>> >> this.
>> >> > I bet you are confusing this new car with your other cars and
>> >> > getting
>> >> > in
>> >> and
>> >> > out the very same way.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a cousin who is your age and just bought a 2005 Accord LX two
>> > days
>> >> > ago. He's taller than you and I didn't see him or his wife having
> and
>> >> such
>> >> > trouble. Try adjusting the way you get in - yes, you have to duck. I
>> > hope
>> >> > you get used to the new procedure and enjoy your new car. Head
> injuries
>> >> are
>> >> > the worst!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Howard

The other Howard wrote:
> The interior dimensions differ. From my 2004 Accord brochure

Yes, the interior may differ slightly in measured room due to sunroof as
well as seat differences, but Murray is not knocking his head on the
interior. His head is hitting the door opening or upper roof rail and there
is no difference between these two models in a 4 door sedan Accord.
He may find that the angles are different from previous vehicles he's owned,
especially with the steep rake of the front windshield.
Howard (me, not you!)
"Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:119mqkt3qnth3b3@corp.supernews.com...
> "Howard" wrote
>
> > You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
> fact.
> > I don't know what else he may have told you.
> > The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
> > between the two are the options that are in either one.
> > Howard
>
>
> Headroom front/rear:
>
> LX: 40.4/38.5
>
> EX: 38.3/36.8
>
> I'm sorry, Murray, that you didn't get to first test the EX before buying.
> Do your best with it - it's got a lot of neat do-dads that the LX doesn't
> have.
>
> [the first] Howard
>
>
>

Howard

The other Howard wrote:
> The interior dimensions differ. From my 2004 Accord brochure

Yes, the interior may differ slightly in measured room due to sunroof as
well as seat differences, but Murray is not knocking his head on the
interior. His head is hitting the door opening or upper roof rail and there
is no difference between these two models in a 4 door sedan Accord.
He may find that the angles are different from previous vehicles he's owned,
especially with the steep rake of the front windshield.
Howard (me, not you!)
"Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:119mqkt3qnth3b3@corp.supernews.com...
> "Howard" wrote
>
> > You did not make a mistake nor did the salesperson lie to you on that
> fact.
> > I don't know what else he may have told you.
> > The Accord LX and EX are 100% identical in dimensions. The difference
> > between the two are the options that are in either one.
> > Howard
>
>
> Headroom front/rear:
>
> LX: 40.4/38.5
>
> EX: 38.3/36.8
>
> I'm sorry, Murray, that you didn't get to first test the EX before buying.
> Do your best with it - it's got a lot of neat do-dads that the LX doesn't
> have.
>
> [the first] Howard
>
>
>

John Horner

murray schirtzer wrote:
>
> I'm 72 years old and have owned many automobiles, old and new in the last 50
> years.
> However, for the first time, I find myself hitting my head on the door's
> archway on entry and exit.

This is a problem with many of the newer automobiles thanks to the
heavily curved roofline and the modern way doors are made. Things we
once took for granted like being able to easily get in and out of a
vehicle now must be re-examined and checked out on test drives.

Bummer!
John

John Horner

murray schirtzer wrote:
>
> I'm 72 years old and have owned many automobiles, old and new in the last 50
> years.
> However, for the first time, I find myself hitting my head on the door's
> archway on entry and exit.

This is a problem with many of the newer automobiles thanks to the
heavily curved roofline and the modern way doors are made. Things we
once took for granted like being able to easily get in and out of a
vehicle now must be re-examined and checked out on test drives.

Bummer!
John