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Michael Pardee 01-14-2007 12:56 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:MSYph.58449$qO4.37321@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Chris Mattingly wrote:
>>
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadv.../naviorder.php). Hmmm... it
>> says there's a 30day return policy. Interesting... :)

>
> Better price and I can read your mind (GMTA) but forget it. I think
> you'll find that like Garmin's maps the data is unlocked by GPS unit
> serial number. They've got the copy protection down pat. Hell, when the
> new DVD's are issued they send them to their users for FREE. You don't
> get unlocked until you pay the license fee which, as I mentioned earlier,
> has gotten VERY reasonable. They just reduced it last year to $75. Think
> it was either $130 or $150. Decent company with a great product and they
> aren't out to screw over their customer base.
>


I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.

Mike



Michael Pardee 01-14-2007 12:56 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:MSYph.58449$qO4.37321@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Chris Mattingly wrote:
>>
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadv.../naviorder.php). Hmmm... it
>> says there's a 30day return policy. Interesting... :)

>
> Better price and I can read your mind (GMTA) but forget it. I think
> you'll find that like Garmin's maps the data is unlocked by GPS unit
> serial number. They've got the copy protection down pat. Hell, when the
> new DVD's are issued they send them to their users for FREE. You don't
> get unlocked until you pay the license fee which, as I mentioned earlier,
> has gotten VERY reasonable. They just reduced it last year to $75. Think
> it was either $130 or $150. Decent company with a great product and they
> aren't out to screw over their customer base.
>


I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.

Mike



Michael Pardee 01-14-2007 12:56 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:MSYph.58449$qO4.37321@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Chris Mattingly wrote:
>>
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadv.../naviorder.php). Hmmm... it
>> says there's a 30day return policy. Interesting... :)

>
> Better price and I can read your mind (GMTA) but forget it. I think
> you'll find that like Garmin's maps the data is unlocked by GPS unit
> serial number. They've got the copy protection down pat. Hell, when the
> new DVD's are issued they send them to their users for FREE. You don't
> get unlocked until you pay the license fee which, as I mentioned earlier,
> has gotten VERY reasonable. They just reduced it last year to $75. Think
> it was either $130 or $150. Decent company with a great product and they
> aren't out to screw over their customer base.
>


I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.

Mike



Michael Pardee 01-14-2007 12:56 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:MSYph.58449$qO4.37321@newssvr13.news.prodigy. net...
> Chris Mattingly wrote:
>>
>> $189 + tax & shipping (from
>> https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadv.../naviorder.php). Hmmm... it
>> says there's a 30day return policy. Interesting... :)

>
> Better price and I can read your mind (GMTA) but forget it. I think
> you'll find that like Garmin's maps the data is unlocked by GPS unit
> serial number. They've got the copy protection down pat. Hell, when the
> new DVD's are issued they send them to their users for FREE. You don't
> get unlocked until you pay the license fee which, as I mentioned earlier,
> has gotten VERY reasonable. They just reduced it last year to $75. Think
> it was either $130 or $150. Decent company with a great product and they
> aren't out to screw over their customer base.
>


I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.

Mike



Unquestionably Confused 01-14-2007 02:10 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
> a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
> saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
> on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
> text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
> also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.


Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells
are Intel processor equipped.

Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can
be removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem
for me if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.

Unquestionably Confused 01-14-2007 02:10 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
> a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
> saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
> on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
> text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
> also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.


Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells
are Intel processor equipped.

Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can
be removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem
for me if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.

Unquestionably Confused 01-14-2007 02:10 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
> a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
> saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
> on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
> text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
> also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.


Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells
are Intel processor equipped.

Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can
be removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem
for me if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.

Unquestionably Confused 01-14-2007 02:10 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
Michael Pardee wrote:
> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates require
> a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update program kept
> saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only in the Garmin
> on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching on the error
> text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the literature. There is
> also apparently no work-around except to use a different computer.


Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells
are Intel processor equipped.

Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can
be removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem
for me if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.

Seth 01-14-2007 02:31 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:_evqh.19912$yC5.6082@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates
>> require a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update
>> program kept saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only
>> in the Garmin on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching
>> on the error text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the
>> literature. There is also apparently no work-around except to use a
>> different computer.

>
> Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells are
> Intel processor equipped.


Yes until most recently. They're starting to put AMD in some machines.

> Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can be
> removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
> OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem for me
> if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.




Seth 01-14-2007 02:31 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:_evqh.19912$yC5.6082@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates
>> require a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update
>> program kept saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only
>> in the Garmin on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching
>> on the error text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the
>> literature. There is also apparently no work-around except to use a
>> different computer.

>
> Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells are
> Intel processor equipped.


Yes until most recently. They're starting to put AMD in some machines.

> Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can be
> removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
> OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem for me
> if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.




Seth 01-14-2007 02:31 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:_evqh.19912$yC5.6082@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates
>> require a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update
>> program kept saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only
>> in the Garmin on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching
>> on the error text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the
>> literature. There is also apparently no work-around except to use a
>> different computer.

>
> Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells are
> Intel processor equipped.


Yes until most recently. They're starting to put AMD in some machines.

> Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can be
> removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
> OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem for me
> if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.




Seth 01-14-2007 02:31 PM

Re: question about hondas navi
 
"Unquestionably Confused" <puzzled2@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:_evqh.19912$yC5.6082@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> I found out the hard way (with our new c330) that the Garmin updates
>> require a computer with an Intel chip set. Mine has VIA and the update
>> program kept saying I had to hook up the GPS and turn it on. It was only
>> in the Garmin on-line support that I found the limitation (by searching
>> on the error text). It is apparently mentioned nowhere else in the
>> literature. There is also apparently no work-around except to use a
>> different computer.

>
> Interesting. I never noticed as we're all Dell and, AFAIK, all Dells are
> Intel processor equipped.


Yes until most recently. They're starting to put AMD in some machines.

> Not sure if it would be a problem with the 2610 since the CF cards can be
> removed and popped into a reader which is the way I typically update.
> OTOH, the Quest has to be connected by USB so it might be a problem for me
> if it weren't for the fact that everything I have has Intel chipsets.





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