Paul D

Hi To All:

My wife's '92 Accord LX died today as she was coasting to a stop,
fortunately at a slow speed on a neighborhood street. It seemed like
the battery at first, but a jump did no good and a subsequent check of
the voltage showed that this was OK. Only after the car sat for awhile
was I finally able to start it again, otherwise it would just turn
over. I got up to 20 mph and then the vehicle suddenly went dead. This
was a bit scary. My first thought (based on reading this board) was
the igniter, but Canadian Tire called and said that the "ignition
control module" was bad. Question: are these just the same part? Also,
what is the funciton of a related part called a "pickup"? Thanks in
advance for any help. - Paul D.

Gene Wagenbreth

If you turn on the key and leave it on for 5 seconds:

Is the check engine light on, or does it go off after a couple seconds ?

Is the sports light flashing ?

G

Gene Wagenbreth

If you turn on the key and leave it on for 5 seconds:

Is the check engine light on, or does it go off after a couple seconds ?

Is the sports light flashing ?

G

Gene Wagenbreth

If you turn on the key and leave it on for 5 seconds:

Is the check engine light on, or does it go off after a couple seconds ?

Is the sports light flashing ?

G

Paul D

Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:55:46 -0700, Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4>
wrote:

>If you turn on the key and leave it on for 5 seconds:
>
>Is the check engine light on, or does it go off after a couple seconds ?
>
>Is the sports light flashing ?
>
>G

Paul D

Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:55:46 -0700, Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4>
wrote:

>If you turn on the key and leave it on for 5 seconds:
>
>Is the check engine light on, or does it go off after a couple seconds ?
>
>Is the sports light flashing ?
>
>G

Paul D

Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:55:46 -0700, Gene Wagenbreth <genewxxx@isi-OS4>
wrote:

>If you turn on the key and leave it on for 5 seconds:
>
>Is the check engine light on, or does it go off after a couple seconds ?
>
>Is the sports light flashing ?
>
>G

High Tech Misfit

Paul D wrote:

> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.

DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.

If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.

If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
I would suspect the ignition switch.

High Tech Misfit

Paul D wrote:

> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.

DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.

If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.

If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
I would suspect the ignition switch.

High Tech Misfit

Paul D wrote:

> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.

DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.

If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.

If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
I would suspect the ignition switch.

Paul D

That would be the former scenario which you mentioned, at least in
this case. The tach did not instantaeously drop to zero. I therefore
am back to suspecting the igniter, at least if I understand you
correctly. - Paul.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0400, High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Paul D wrote:
>
>> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
>> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
>> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
>> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
>> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
>> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.
>
>DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.
>
>If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
>would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.
>
>If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
>I would suspect the ignition switch.

Paul D

That would be the former scenario which you mentioned, at least in
this case. The tach did not instantaeously drop to zero. I therefore
am back to suspecting the igniter, at least if I understand you
correctly. - Paul.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0400, High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Paul D wrote:
>
>> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
>> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
>> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
>> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
>> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
>> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.
>
>DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.
>
>If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
>would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.
>
>If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
>I would suspect the ignition switch.

Paul D

That would be the former scenario which you mentioned, at least in
this case. The tach did not instantaeously drop to zero. I therefore
am back to suspecting the igniter, at least if I understand you
correctly. - Paul.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0400, High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Paul D wrote:
>
>> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
>> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
>> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
>> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
>> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
>> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.
>
>DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.
>
>If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
>would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.
>
>If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
>I would suspect the ignition switch.

jim beam

Paul D wrote:
> Hi To All:
>
> My wife's '92 Accord LX died today as she was coasting to a stop,
> fortunately at a slow speed on a neighborhood street. It seemed like
> the battery at first, but a jump did no good and a subsequent check of
> the voltage showed that this was OK. Only after the car sat for awhile
> was I finally able to start it again, otherwise it would just turn
> over. I got up to 20 mph and then the vehicle suddenly went dead. This
> was a bit scary. My first thought (based on reading this board) was
> the igniter, but Canadian Tire called and said that the "ignition
> control module" was bad. Question: are these just the same part? Also,
> what is the funciton of a related part called a "pickup"? Thanks in
> advance for any help. - Paul D.
>

igniter/ignition control module are the same.

it could be that, but while some people say this is an intermittent
issue, in my experience, igniters die, then stay dead forever. check
into the coil and the main relay as potential other culprits. read the
diagnostics at tegger.com.

jim beam

Paul D wrote:
> Hi To All:
>
> My wife's '92 Accord LX died today as she was coasting to a stop,
> fortunately at a slow speed on a neighborhood street. It seemed like
> the battery at first, but a jump did no good and a subsequent check of
> the voltage showed that this was OK. Only after the car sat for awhile
> was I finally able to start it again, otherwise it would just turn
> over. I got up to 20 mph and then the vehicle suddenly went dead. This
> was a bit scary. My first thought (based on reading this board) was
> the igniter, but Canadian Tire called and said that the "ignition
> control module" was bad. Question: are these just the same part? Also,
> what is the funciton of a related part called a "pickup"? Thanks in
> advance for any help. - Paul D.
>

igniter/ignition control module are the same.

it could be that, but while some people say this is an intermittent
issue, in my experience, igniters die, then stay dead forever. check
into the coil and the main relay as potential other culprits. read the
diagnostics at tegger.com.