Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

Paul D wrote:
> Hi To All:
>
> My wife's '92 Accord LX died today as she was coasting to a stop,
> fortunately at a slow speed on a neighborhood street. It seemed like
> the battery at first, but a jump did no good and a subsequent check of
> the voltage showed that this was OK. Only after the car sat for awhile
> was I finally able to start it again, otherwise it would just turn
> over. I got up to 20 mph and then the vehicle suddenly went dead. This
> was a bit scary. My first thought (based on reading this board) was
> the igniter, but Canadian Tire called and said that the "ignition
> control module" was bad. Question: are these just the same part? Also,
> what is the funciton of a related part called a "pickup"? Thanks in
> advance for any help. - Paul D.
>

igniter/ignition control module are the same.

it could be that, but while some people say this is an intermittent
issue, in my experience, igniters die, then stay dead forever. check
into the coil and the main relay as potential other culprits. read the
diagnostics at tegger.com.

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:05:58 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>That would be the former scenario which you mentioned, at least in
>this case. The tach did not instantaeously drop to zero. I therefore
>am back to suspecting the igniter, at least if I understand you
>correctly. - Paul.
>
>On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0400, High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Paul D wrote:
>>
>>> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
>>> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
>>> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
>>> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
>>> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
>>> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.
>>
>>DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.
>>
>>If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
>>would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.
>>
>>If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
>>I would suspect the ignition switch.
>

I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:05:58 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>That would be the former scenario which you mentioned, at least in
>this case. The tach did not instantaeously drop to zero. I therefore
>am back to suspecting the igniter, at least if I understand you
>correctly. - Paul.
>
>On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0400, High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Paul D wrote:
>>
>>> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
>>> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
>>> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
>>> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
>>> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
>>> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.
>>
>>DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.
>>
>>If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
>>would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.
>>
>>If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
>>I would suspect the ignition switch.
>

I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:05:58 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>That would be the former scenario which you mentioned, at least in
>this case. The tach did not instantaeously drop to zero. I therefore
>am back to suspecting the igniter, at least if I understand you
>correctly. - Paul.
>
>On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:49:29 -0400, High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Paul D wrote:
>>
>>> Hi : I guess that's a moot issue now, since Canadian Tire is already
>>> ordering the ICM for installation tomorrow. Wish I'd known to try this
>>> before I turned the car in to them, but my wife has to have it for
>>> later this week so I couldn't wait. Just curious...what would this
>>> protocol have told me in terms of diagnostic information? I'd really
>>> like to learn all I can.Thanks. - Paul.
>>
>>DO NOT go to Crappy Tire for service on a Honda!!! Or any car.
>>
>>If the tach acts erratically before stalling and dash lights remain lit, I
>>would suspect the igniter or ignition coil.
>>
>>If the tach instantly drops to 0 when it stalls and no dash lights come on,
>>I would suspect the ignition switch.
>

I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).

That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
then it was probably the ECU. - Paul

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).

That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
then it was probably the ECU. - Paul

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).

That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
then it was probably the ECU. - Paul

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

>igniter/ignition control module are the same.
>
>it could be that, but while some people say this is an intermittent
>issue, in my experience, igniters die, then stay dead forever. check
>into the coil and the main relay as potential other culprits. read the
>diagnostics at tegger.com.

Thanks, Jim - you answered my question. I'll have my regular mechanic
check these when I take the car in for brake work next week. - Paul

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

>igniter/ignition control module are the same.
>
>it could be that, but while some people say this is an intermittent
>issue, in my experience, igniters die, then stay dead forever. check
>into the coil and the main relay as potential other culprits. read the
>diagnostics at tegger.com.

Thanks, Jim - you answered my question. I'll have my regular mechanic
check these when I take the car in for brake work next week. - Paul

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

>igniter/ignition control module are the same.
>
>it could be that, but while some people say this is an intermittent
>issue, in my experience, igniters die, then stay dead forever. check
>into the coil and the main relay as potential other culprits. read the
>diagnostics at tegger.com.

Thanks, Jim - you answered my question. I'll have my regular mechanic
check these when I take the car in for brake work next week. - Paul

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:44:15 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).
>
>That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
>know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
>then it was probably the ECU. - Paul

Ah, yes, the big clue. It cost $500 or so.

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:44:15 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).
>
>That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
>know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
>then it was probably the ECU. - Paul

Ah, yes, the big clue. It cost $500 or so.

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:44:15 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).
>
>That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
>know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
>then it was probably the ECU. - Paul

Ah, yes, the big clue. It cost $500 or so.

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

Hi: One more question...do you guys happen to know whether the Bosch
or Huco Igniters would be of better quality than what you get at the
dealer? I couldn't find a Honda brand igniter/ignition coil module per
se. Also, Canadian Tire replaced this part with a "Niefhoff", which
I've never hear of. - Paul

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:15:12 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:44:15 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>>>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>>>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>>>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).
>>
>>That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
>>know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
>>then it was probably the ECU. - Paul
>
>Ah, yes, the big clue. It cost $500 or so.

Re: Question re: '92 Accord Ignition Control Module
 

Hi: One more question...do you guys happen to know whether the Bosch
or Huco Igniters would be of better quality than what you get at the
dealer? I couldn't find a Honda brand igniter/ignition coil module per
se. Also, Canadian Tire replaced this part with a "Niefhoff", which
I've never hear of. - Paul

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:15:12 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:44:15 -0400, Paul D <pauls@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>I had something similar a few months back where the car just died
>>>while backing out of a parking spot. I was told that it was the
>>>"master module". That doesn't sound like the same thing as this, but
>>>it is a 91 Accord (that just turned 100,000).
>>
>>That could have been your ECU (Electronic Control Unit). The way you
>>know is if it cost you a bundle, several hundred just for the part,
>>then it was probably the ECU. - Paul
>
>Ah, yes, the big clue. It cost $500 or so.