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Question re first 3 month service
I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's
first maintenance, an oil change. Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that I only have 1000 miles on my new car? I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light came on, on the dashboard? No? What's the deal here? I want to do the scheduled maintenances in order to keep my warranty good, but an oil change after only 1000 miles??? |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqavss@4ax.com>,
A.Nonimus@nospam.tv wrote: > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's > first maintenance, an oil change. From Honda, or from your Honda dealer? Those are two VERY different entities. |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqavss@4ax.com>,
A.Nonimus@nospam.tv wrote: > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's > first maintenance, an oil change. From Honda, or from your Honda dealer? Those are two VERY different entities. |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqavss@4ax.com>,
A.Nonimus@nospam.tv wrote: > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's > first maintenance, an oil change. > > Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that > I only have 1000 miles on my new car? > > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light > came on, on the dashboard? > > No? What's the deal here? The deal here is that you can't differentiate between American Honda Motor Corp, which doesn't sell or service cars, and your dealership, which does sell and service cars. Your dealership has an automated system that begs people to come in every 3K miles and spend money. American Honda Motor Manufacturing built an automated system into the car that tells the driver when it's time to spend money. Two very different things, with two VERY different goals. If you can't differentiate between Honda, the manufacturer and your Honda dealership, you're ripe for getting fleeced. |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqavss@4ax.com>,
A.Nonimus@nospam.tv wrote: > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's > first maintenance, an oil change. > > Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that > I only have 1000 miles on my new car? > > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light > came on, on the dashboard? > > No? What's the deal here? The deal here is that you can't differentiate between American Honda Motor Corp, which doesn't sell or service cars, and your dealership, which does sell and service cars. Your dealership has an automated system that begs people to come in every 3K miles and spend money. American Honda Motor Manufacturing built an automated system into the car that tells the driver when it's time to spend money. Two very different things, with two VERY different goals. If you can't differentiate between Honda, the manufacturer and your Honda dealership, you're ripe for getting fleeced. |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 4, 2:06 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqa...@4ax.com>, > > A.Noni...@nospam.tv wrote: > > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's > > first maintenance, an oil change. > > > Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that > > I only have 1000 miles on my new car? > > > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light > > came on, on the dashboard? > > > No? What's the deal here? > > The deal here is that you can't differentiate between American Honda > Motor Corp, which doesn't sell or service cars, and your dealership, > which does sell and service cars. > > Your dealership has an automated system that begs people to come in > every 3K miles and spend money. > > American Honda Motor Manufacturing built an automated system into the > car that tells the driver when it's time to spend money. > > Two very different things, with two VERY different goals. > > If you can't differentiate between Honda, the manufacturer and your > Honda dealership, you're ripe for getting fleeced. Okay, so which one is it that controls when I have to get maintenance in order to keep my Warranty valid? Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda Manufacturing. So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
On May 4, 2:06 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqa...@4ax.com>, > > A.Noni...@nospam.tv wrote: > > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's > > first maintenance, an oil change. > > > Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that > > I only have 1000 miles on my new car? > > > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light > > came on, on the dashboard? > > > No? What's the deal here? > > The deal here is that you can't differentiate between American Honda > Motor Corp, which doesn't sell or service cars, and your dealership, > which does sell and service cars. > > Your dealership has an automated system that begs people to come in > every 3K miles and spend money. > > American Honda Motor Manufacturing built an automated system into the > car that tells the driver when it's time to spend money. > > Two very different things, with two VERY different goals. > > If you can't differentiate between Honda, the manufacturer and your > Honda dealership, you're ripe for getting fleeced. Okay, so which one is it that controls when I have to get maintenance in order to keep my Warranty valid? Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda Manufacturing. So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
"A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178330454.588324.232540
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer > is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do > maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda > Manufacturing. > So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the > maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? > > > That is correct. However, you may want to peruse the Warranty booklet that came with your shiny new car. This booklet (published by American Honda) will tell you what exactly you need to do to the car in order to keep your warranty valid, this being entirely independent of what the franchised dealer wants you to do. The dealer, of course (being an independent company from Honda), would like you to give them more money than you might otherwise bestow. What they want you to spend will certainly do the car good and not harm, but is it really necessary? Not if Honda doesn't say it's necessary. Clear as mud? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
"A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178330454.588324.232540
@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer > is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do > maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda > Manufacturing. > So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the > maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? > > > That is correct. However, you may want to peruse the Warranty booklet that came with your shiny new car. This booklet (published by American Honda) will tell you what exactly you need to do to the car in order to keep your warranty valid, this being entirely independent of what the franchised dealer wants you to do. The dealer, of course (being an independent company from Honda), would like you to give them more money than you might otherwise bestow. What they want you to spend will certainly do the car good and not harm, but is it really necessary? Not if Honda doesn't say it's necessary. Clear as mud? -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
"A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote: >On May 4, 2:06 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote: >> In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqa...@4ax.com>, >> >> A.Noni...@nospam.tv wrote: >> > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's >> > first maintenance, an oil change. >> >> > Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that >> > I only have 1000 miles on my new car? >> >> > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light >> > came on, on the dashboard? >> >> > No? What's the deal here? >> >> The deal here is that you can't differentiate between American Honda >> Motor Corp, which doesn't sell or service cars, and your dealership, >> which does sell and service cars. >> >> Your dealership has an automated system that begs people to come in >> every 3K miles and spend money. >> >> American Honda Motor Manufacturing built an automated system into the >> car that tells the driver when it's time to spend money. >> >> Two very different things, with two VERY different goals. >> >> If you can't differentiate between Honda, the manufacturer and your >> Honda dealership, you're ripe for getting fleeced. > >Okay, so which one is it that controls when I have to get maintenance >in order to keep my Warranty valid? >Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer >is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do >maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda >Manufacturing. >So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the >maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
"A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote: >On May 4, 2:06 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote: >> In article <u66n335n1pdc0nh9dpo021gvq1hmtqa...@4ax.com>, >> >> A.Noni...@nospam.tv wrote: >> > I got an email from Honda saying my new 2007 Honda LX is due for it's >> > first maintenance, an oil change. >> >> > Do I have to do this maintenance after 3 months, despite the fact that >> > I only have 1000 miles on my new car? >> >> > I thought you were supposed to do the maintenance when the oil light >> > came on, on the dashboard? >> >> > No? What's the deal here? >> >> The deal here is that you can't differentiate between American Honda >> Motor Corp, which doesn't sell or service cars, and your dealership, >> which does sell and service cars. >> >> Your dealership has an automated system that begs people to come in >> every 3K miles and spend money. >> >> American Honda Motor Manufacturing built an automated system into the >> car that tells the driver when it's time to spend money. >> >> Two very different things, with two VERY different goals. >> >> If you can't differentiate between Honda, the manufacturer and your >> Honda dealership, you're ripe for getting fleeced. > >Okay, so which one is it that controls when I have to get maintenance >in order to keep my Warranty valid? >Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer >is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do >maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda >Manufacturing. >So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the >maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? > Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
Tegger wrote:
> "A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178330454.588324.232540 > @e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > > >> Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer >> is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do >> maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda >> Manufacturing. >> So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the >> maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? >> >> >> > > > > That is correct. > > However, you may want to peruse the Warranty booklet that came with your > shiny new car. This booklet (published by American Honda) will tell you > what exactly you need to do to the car in order to keep your warranty > valid, to clarify, it specifies the service schedule, and to keep the warranty valid, the service schedule needs to be observed correctly. but legally, the work doesn't need to be done by the dealer - you can even do it yourself. simply keep records of the work done, the mileages at which it was done, and keep receipts. if you change the oil yourself for instance, keep receipts for its purchase and make a note in the service schedule accordingly. > this being entirely independent of what the franchised dealer wants > you to do. > > The dealer, of course (being an independent company from Honda), would like > you to give them more money than you might otherwise bestow. What they want > you to spend will certainly do the car good and not harm, but is it really > necessary? Not if Honda doesn't say it's necessary. Clear as mud? the warranty booklet kinda sorta dances the tightrope of saying the work should be done by the dealer, without actually saying it in a way that breaks the law, the law being that warranty /is/ legally maintained if the schedule is properly observed. there are benefits of having the work done by the dealer of course, but economy isn't one of them, and in the case of san francisco honda [for example], they'll try and rip you for spectacular amounts of unnecessary work. to the average driver, the cost benefit of taking an evening course in basic car tech, is HUGE. even if they never intend to pick up a wrench ever again, they can thereafter walk into a shop and have some knowledge of what's going on and often avoid substantial expense because of it. |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
Tegger wrote:
> "A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178330454.588324.232540 > @e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: > > >> Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer >> is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do >> maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda >> Manufacturing. >> So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the >> maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? >> >> >> > > > > That is correct. > > However, you may want to peruse the Warranty booklet that came with your > shiny new car. This booklet (published by American Honda) will tell you > what exactly you need to do to the car in order to keep your warranty > valid, to clarify, it specifies the service schedule, and to keep the warranty valid, the service schedule needs to be observed correctly. but legally, the work doesn't need to be done by the dealer - you can even do it yourself. simply keep records of the work done, the mileages at which it was done, and keep receipts. if you change the oil yourself for instance, keep receipts for its purchase and make a note in the service schedule accordingly. > this being entirely independent of what the franchised dealer wants > you to do. > > The dealer, of course (being an independent company from Honda), would like > you to give them more money than you might otherwise bestow. What they want > you to spend will certainly do the car good and not harm, but is it really > necessary? Not if Honda doesn't say it's necessary. Clear as mud? the warranty booklet kinda sorta dances the tightrope of saying the work should be done by the dealer, without actually saying it in a way that breaks the law, the law being that warranty /is/ legally maintained if the schedule is properly observed. there are benefits of having the work done by the dealer of course, but economy isn't one of them, and in the case of san francisco honda [for example], they'll try and rip you for spectacular amounts of unnecessary work. to the average driver, the cost benefit of taking an evening course in basic car tech, is HUGE. even if they never intend to pick up a wrench ever again, they can thereafter walk into a shop and have some knowledge of what's going on and often avoid substantial expense because of it. |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:bPSdne6QnYDoF6HbnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > Tegger wrote: >> "A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:1178330454.588324.232540 @e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: >> >> >>> Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer >>> is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do >>> maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda >>> Manufacturing. >>> So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the >>> maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> That is correct. >> >> However, you may want to peruse the Warranty booklet that came with >> your shiny new car. This booklet (published by American Honda) will >> tell you what exactly you need to do to the car in order to keep your >> warranty valid, > > to clarify, it specifies the service schedule, and to keep the > warranty valid, the service schedule needs to be observed correctly. The latest cars do not have service schedules listed in their Owner's Manuals. You are supposed to go entirely by the dashboard's Maintenance Minder. The Warranty booklet will list the required mileage/time-based warranty services that are to be performed. > but legally, the work doesn't need to be done by the dealer - you can > even do it yourself. simply keep records of the work done, the > mileages at which it was done, and keep receipts. if you change the > oil yourself for instance, keep receipts for its purchase and make a > note in the service schedule accordingly. This is very important, especially if you do the work yourself. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Question re first 3 month service
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:bPSdne6QnYDoF6HbnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > Tegger wrote: >> "A. Nonimus" <pdsnickles@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:1178330454.588324.232540 @e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com: >> >> >>> Basically, what you seem to be saying is that the local Honda dealer >>> is trying to pull a fast one and convince me that I need to do >>> maintenance that I do not need to do, according to American Honda >>> Manufacturing. >>> So according to American Honda Manufacturing I do not need to do the >>> maintenance until it comes up on my dashboard? >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> That is correct. >> >> However, you may want to peruse the Warranty booklet that came with >> your shiny new car. This booklet (published by American Honda) will >> tell you what exactly you need to do to the car in order to keep your >> warranty valid, > > to clarify, it specifies the service schedule, and to keep the > warranty valid, the service schedule needs to be observed correctly. The latest cars do not have service schedules listed in their Owner's Manuals. You are supposed to go entirely by the dashboard's Maintenance Minder. The Warranty booklet will list the required mileage/time-based warranty services that are to be performed. > but legally, the work doesn't need to be done by the dealer - you can > even do it yourself. simply keep records of the work done, the > mileages at which it was done, and keep receipts. if you change the > oil yourself for instance, keep receipts for its purchase and make a > note in the service schedule accordingly. This is very important, especially if you do the work yourself. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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