Re: 85 Accord LX, Timing Belt, how to align the crank and cam
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Re: 85 Accord LX, Timing Belt, how to align the crank and cam
I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
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Re: 85 Accord LX, Timing Belt, how to align the crank and cam
Usually on the crankshaft sprocket there is a circular indentation that
lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
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lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
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Re: 85 Accord LX, Timing Belt, how to align the crank and cam
Usually on the crankshaft sprocket there is a circular indentation that
lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
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lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com...
>
> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
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Re: 85 Accord LX, Timing Belt, how to align the crank and cam
Usually on the crankshaft sprocket there is a circular indentation that
lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com...
>
> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
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lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
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Re: 85 Accord LX, Timing Belt, how to align the crank and cam
Usually on the crankshaft sprocket there is a circular indentation that
lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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lines up with a marker. If not, there is usually a rubber plug between the
transmission and the engine block, and if you pull that out there will be a
pointer you can use to line up the crank shaft. Also if you are at #1 TDC
on the crankshaft, you are at #1 TDC on the crankshaft. The cam's position
is the only thing that determines exhaust or combustion stroke. So if you
have TDC on the crank and the cam lined up, then you will have the
compression stroke.
"NHladky" <NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:NHladky.vu7iy@realcaraudio.com...
>
> I have an 85 Accord LX with the 1.8 CARB ES2 Motor. It stopped running
> at a stop light while at low RPM's. After a little tshooting we found
> it was the timing belt, which had 15 cogs torn completly off in one
> spot, then 2 together, in 2 other places on the belt. So, I got the
> pully's off and got the new belt on there, but I am not finding
> definitive timing marks on the crankshaft. The camshaft has one
> circlular hole in the pulley which goes strait up to identify TDC,
> however, I'm not finding the mark to line up the crankshaft to TDC.
> Now.. I know the old rule of thumb, pull plug 1 and check for TDC
> clearance.. however, this does not identify exhaust or compression
> stroke, and the bigger problem still, is that the spark plugs go in
> strait through the front, directly into the side of the combustion
> chamber in the head. Which of course means that while the piston is at
> TDC, it does not protrude into the combustion chamber, which means even
> a feeler guage or the brute screwdriver in the plug hole, will not help
> to ID TDC for this motor. If anyone has knowledge of exactly where
> these timing marks are located on the timing pulley , and it's
> reference point.. I would be VERY greatful!
>
>
> --
> NHladky
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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