Geoff Miller

Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:

> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
> the manager of a locally-owned shop?

> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
> likely to rip you off.


I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.



Geoff

--
"Is it true that Dorothy Parker named her pet parakeet
Onan because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?"
-- David Mikkelson

Geoff Miller

Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:

> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
> the manager of a locally-owned shop?

> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
> likely to rip you off.


I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.



Geoff

--
"Is it true that Dorothy Parker named her pet parakeet
Onan because he kept spilling his seed upon the ground?"
-- David Mikkelson

JoeSpareBedroom

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>
>> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>
>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>> likely to rip you off.
>
>
> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
> Geoff


Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
form, at least in one market area. Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI

JoeSpareBedroom

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>
>> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>
>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>> likely to rip you off.
>
>
> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
> Geoff


Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
form, at least in one market area. Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI

Smitty Two

In article <upoRi.19171$ya1.491@news02.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
> news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
> >
> >> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
> >> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
> >
> >> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
> >> likely to rip you off.
> >
> >
> > I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
> > Geoff
>
>
> Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
> form, at least in one market area. Watch:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI

holy crap. thanks for that sobering link.

Smitty Two

In article <upoRi.19171$ya1.491@news02.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
> news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
> >
> >> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
> >> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
> >
> >> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
> >> likely to rip you off.
> >
> >
> > I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
> > Geoff
>
>
> Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
> form, at least in one market area. Watch:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI

holy crap. thanks for that sobering link.

Truckdude

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>
>> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>
>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>> likely to rip you off.
>
>
> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>

No doubt that everyone wants to make a profit, but Jiffy Lube in the Los
Angeles area takes it to an art form.

Truckdude

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
> Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>
>> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>
>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>> likely to rip you off.
>
>
> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>

No doubt that everyone wants to make a profit, but Jiffy Lube in the Los
Angeles area takes it to an art form.

JoeSpareBedroom

"Smitty Two" <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
newsrestwhich-C8AA53.08082117102007@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <upoRi.19171$ya1.491@news02.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>> >> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>> >
>> >> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>> >> likely to rip you off.
>> >
>> >
>> > I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
>> > Geoff
>>
>>
>> Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
>> form, at least in one market area. Watch:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI
>
> holy crap. thanks for that sobering link.

Yeah...and my mechanic wonders why I want to commission a statue in his
honor.

JoeSpareBedroom

"Smitty Two" <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
newsrestwhich-C8AA53.08082117102007@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <upoRi.19171$ya1.491@news02.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>> >> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>> >
>> >> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>> >> likely to rip you off.
>> >
>> >
>> > I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
>> > Geoff
>>
>>
>> Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
>> form, at least in one market area. Watch:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI
>
> holy crap. thanks for that sobering link.

Yeah...and my mechanic wonders why I want to commission a statue in his
honor.

Chip

Truckdude wrote:


>>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>>> likely to rip you off.
>>
>> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.

> No doubt that everyone wants to make a profit, but Jiffy Lube in the Los
> Angeles area takes it to an art form.
>
>
We had stopped using Jiffy Lube several years ago here in Phoenix
because of their predatory tactics and sloppy servicing. Found a
dependable place, but that went out of business a couple of months ago.
My wife went back to Jiffy Lube because she knew where it was. Got a
bill for $115 for an OIL change and some MINOR things they sold her on.

BTW, they checked off that they did all the liquid levels, but low
coolant level triggered my car computer less than a week later.

Bah! I am NEVER using them again.

Chip

Chip

Truckdude wrote:


>>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>>> likely to rip you off.
>>
>> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.

> No doubt that everyone wants to make a profit, but Jiffy Lube in the Los
> Angeles area takes it to an art form.
>
>
We had stopped using Jiffy Lube several years ago here in Phoenix
because of their predatory tactics and sloppy servicing. Found a
dependable place, but that went out of business a couple of months ago.
My wife went back to Jiffy Lube because she knew where it was. Got a
bill for $115 for an OIL change and some MINOR things they sold her on.

BTW, they checked off that they did all the liquid levels, but low
coolant level triggered my car computer less than a week later.

Bah! I am NEVER using them again.

Chip

larry moe 'n curly

Chip wrote:

> We had stopped using Jiffy Lube several years ago here in Phoenix
> because of their predatory tactics and sloppy servicing. Found a
> dependable place, but that went out of business a couple of months ago.
> My wife went back to Jiffy Lube because she knew where it was. Got a
> bill for $115 for an OIL change and some MINOR things they sold her on.
>
> BTW, they checked off that they did all the liquid levels, but low
> coolant level triggered my car computer less than a week later.
>
> Bah! I am NEVER using them again.

Based on my experience five years ago with a company vehicle, I
wouldn't recommend Jiffy Lube except to customers who know about auto
maintenance and can watch the employees continuously.

The two Phoenix area Jiffy Lubes I used, one at Metrocenter, another
near the Home Depot on I-17 and Thunderbird, seemed to be honest and
didn't push unneeded services, but:

1. The auto maker required 5W-30 oil, but they usually tried to put
in 10W-30. A couple of times the Thunderbird Jiffy Lube walked to the
Walgreen's next door to purchase 5W-30.

2. The vehicle had ABS that had to be depressurized to for checking
the brake fluid level, but both Jiffy Lubes apparently didn't do that
and therefore overfilled the reserviors by a great deal and caused
tons of fluid to spill out.

3. Both places way overfilled the radiator overflow tank. Granted it
was an unusual tank that was supposed to be filled only to 1/2", but I
had highlighted the full mark and warned Jiffy Lube of this.

4. The air filter housing was reinstalled wrong.

I had no problems with these places after I told them to only change
the engine oil and filter and leave everything else alone.

larry moe 'n curly

Chip wrote:

> We had stopped using Jiffy Lube several years ago here in Phoenix
> because of their predatory tactics and sloppy servicing. Found a
> dependable place, but that went out of business a couple of months ago.
> My wife went back to Jiffy Lube because she knew where it was. Got a
> bill for $115 for an OIL change and some MINOR things they sold her on.
>
> BTW, they checked off that they did all the liquid levels, but low
> coolant level triggered my car computer less than a week later.
>
> Bah! I am NEVER using them again.

Based on my experience five years ago with a company vehicle, I
wouldn't recommend Jiffy Lube except to customers who know about auto
maintenance and can watch the employees continuously.

The two Phoenix area Jiffy Lubes I used, one at Metrocenter, another
near the Home Depot on I-17 and Thunderbird, seemed to be honest and
didn't push unneeded services, but:

1. The auto maker required 5W-30 oil, but they usually tried to put
in 10W-30. A couple of times the Thunderbird Jiffy Lube walked to the
Walgreen's next door to purchase 5W-30.

2. The vehicle had ABS that had to be depressurized to for checking
the brake fluid level, but both Jiffy Lubes apparently didn't do that
and therefore overfilled the reserviors by a great deal and caused
tons of fluid to spill out.

3. Both places way overfilled the radiator overflow tank. Granted it
was an unusual tank that was supposed to be filled only to 1/2", but I
had highlighted the full mark and warned Jiffy Lube of this.

4. The air filter housing was reinstalled wrong.

I had no problems with these places after I told them to only change
the engine oil and filter and leave everything else alone.

Bruce L. Bergman

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:49:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@lava.net> wrote in message
>news:13hc3pd44kvkjc1@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>
>> Truckdude <shrub@thadeecider.com> writes:
>>
>>> Why would the manager of a Jiffy Lube be any less motivated than
>>> the manager of a locally-owned shop?
>>
>>> Corporate pressure from above will have the Jiffy Lube mgr. more
>>> likely to rip you off.
>>
>>
>> I hardly think a profit motive is unique to those evil corporations.
>> Geoff
>
>
>Profit is good, but Jiffy Lube is famous for making stealing into an art
>form, at least in one market area. Watch:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI

Ahh, the KNBC Sting of Jiffy Lube Et. Al. - but the sad part is,
KNBC has done this same investigation several times before and caught
the same crooks doing the same things, and the Corporate Spokesperson
for the service chains say they are going to clean up their act and
make sure it never happens again.

A year later they run the same sting and get the same results,
nothing has changed...

Several of these chains have tried the same thing on 'Bait Cars" and
the sting is being conducted by the California Bureau of Automotive
Repair. And they get a big fine and their operating licenses on
probation, and again they go back to 'business as usual' when it's
over. Sears damn near lost their licenses several times.

--<< Bruce >>--