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tflfb 08-12-2003 04:21 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
enough for me.
"JR" <jreld@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:fhXZa.3211$Ea.478@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
> What is the proper torque for the oil pan drain plug on a '93 Civic?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>




Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-12-2003 05:07 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
In article <b%b_a.1338$XO4.23791@news.uswest.net>,
"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:

> I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
> enough for me.


1) Top posting is bad.

2) Yeah, it's good enough for *you*, but did *you* engineer the oil pan
and bolt and washer? In other words, what does the *service* manual say?


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-12-2003 05:07 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
In article <b%b_a.1338$XO4.23791@news.uswest.net>,
"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:

> I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
> enough for me.


1) Top posting is bad.

2) Yeah, it's good enough for *you*, but did *you* engineer the oil pan
and bolt and washer? In other words, what does the *service* manual say?


E. Meyer 08-12-2003 07:16 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
yes

On 8/12/03 4:00 PM, in article bhbkgd$g4$1@usc.edu, "Trojan"
<klutulu@softhome.net> wrote:

> I am new to cars and Dont know how to measure the torque applied to the
> Plug. Is there any device to measure that.
>
> TIA
>
>
> "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:b%b_a.1338$XO4.23791@news.uswest.net...
>> I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
>> enough for me.
>> "JR" <jreld@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:fhXZa.3211$Ea.478@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
>>> What is the proper torque for the oil pan drain plug on a '93 Civic?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



E. Meyer 08-12-2003 07:16 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
yes

On 8/12/03 4:00 PM, in article bhbkgd$g4$1@usc.edu, "Trojan"
<klutulu@softhome.net> wrote:

> I am new to cars and Dont know how to measure the torque applied to the
> Plug. Is there any device to measure that.
>
> TIA
>
>
> "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:b%b_a.1338$XO4.23791@news.uswest.net...
>> I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
>> enough for me.
>> "JR" <jreld@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:fhXZa.3211$Ea.478@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
>>> What is the proper torque for the oil pan drain plug on a '93 Civic?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



R Yacuk 08-12-2003 09:49 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
Plonk

>
> 1) Top posting is bad.
>
> 2) Yeah, it's good enough for *you*, but did *you* engineer the oil pan
> and bolt and washer? In other words, what does the *service* manual say?
>




R Yacuk 08-12-2003 09:49 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
Plonk

>
> 1) Top posting is bad.
>
> 2) Yeah, it's good enough for *you*, but did *you* engineer the oil pan
> and bolt and washer? In other words, what does the *service* manual say?
>




tflfb 08-12-2003 10:49 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
The service manuals recommends a torque spec, do you think that when you
have the oil changed at a speedy lube they torque the plug, your lucky
they don't strip or cross thread it.

Hey at lease I use a torque wrench, thats better than tightening it and
guessing.

Its not rocket science.

Tom.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:xuc_a.1720$8v4.562@fe10.atl2.webusenet.com...
> In article <b%b_a.1338$XO4.23791@news.uswest.net>,
> "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>
> > I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
> > enough for me.

>
> 1) Top posting is bad.
>
> 2) Yeah, it's good enough for *you*, but did *you* engineer the oil pan
> and bolt and washer? In other words, what does the *service* manual say?
>




tflfb 08-12-2003 10:49 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
The service manuals recommends a torque spec, do you think that when you
have the oil changed at a speedy lube they torque the plug, your lucky
they don't strip or cross thread it.

Hey at lease I use a torque wrench, thats better than tightening it and
guessing.

Its not rocket science.

Tom.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:xuc_a.1720$8v4.562@fe10.atl2.webusenet.com...
> In article <b%b_a.1338$XO4.23791@news.uswest.net>,
> "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>
> > I torque mine with a torque wrench to only about 20 ft lbs, thats snug
> > enough for me.

>
> 1) Top posting is bad.
>
> 2) Yeah, it's good enough for *you*, but did *you* engineer the oil pan
> and bolt and washer? In other words, what does the *service* manual say?
>




Gus 08-13-2003 01:07 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
Trojan wrote:
> I am new to cars and Dont know how to measure the torque applied to the
> Plug. Is there any device to measure that.


Torque wrenches do exactly that. I don't know if they've changed over
the years because I'm still using the Snap-On wrench I got back in the
70's. The models that give a click & give just a little are better,
i.e., more accurate, than the ones with pointers.


Gus 08-13-2003 01:07 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
Trojan wrote:
> I am new to cars and Dont know how to measure the torque applied to the
> Plug. Is there any device to measure that.


Torque wrenches do exactly that. I don't know if they've changed over
the years because I'm still using the Snap-On wrench I got back in the
70's. The models that give a click & give just a little are better,
i.e., more accurate, than the ones with pointers.


Peter Doherty 08-13-2003 10:57 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 

"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:kHh_a.2023$XO4.40163@news.uswest.net...
> The service manuals recommends a torque spec, do you think that when you
> have the oil changed at a speedy lube they torque the plug, your

lucky
> they don't strip or cross thread it.


That's true at some shops, that's why I do it myself!

> Hey at lease I use a torque wrench, thats better than tightening it and
> guessing.


I'm very interested that you own and use a torque wrench, but don't go by
the specs. For some reason, that really intrigues me.

> Its not rocket science.


No, it's not, but it is designed by engineers, and they didn't pull 33 lb/ft
out of a hat. the 20lb/ft you use may be sufficient, but it is only about
60% of the recommended spec, and that's a little risky IMHO.



Peter Doherty 08-13-2003 10:57 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 

"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:kHh_a.2023$XO4.40163@news.uswest.net...
> The service manuals recommends a torque spec, do you think that when you
> have the oil changed at a speedy lube they torque the plug, your

lucky
> they don't strip or cross thread it.


That's true at some shops, that's why I do it myself!

> Hey at lease I use a torque wrench, thats better than tightening it and
> guessing.


I'm very interested that you own and use a torque wrench, but don't go by
the specs. For some reason, that really intrigues me.

> Its not rocket science.


No, it's not, but it is designed by engineers, and they didn't pull 33 lb/ft
out of a hat. the 20lb/ft you use may be sufficient, but it is only about
60% of the recommended spec, and that's a little risky IMHO.



Paul Bielec 08-13-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
> No, it's not, but it is designed by engineers

Being an engineer myself, that puts a smile on my face...
I mean, it's not because it was decided by an engineer that it has
necessarily been calculated...
"So what do we put?...eh...I don't know...start with 20....dripping...torque
some more...good, now add some more just in case..."

: )



Paul Bielec 08-13-2003 12:02 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Torque
 
> No, it's not, but it is designed by engineers

Being an engineer myself, that puts a smile on my face...
I mean, it's not because it was decided by an engineer that it has
necessarily been calculated...
"So what do we put?...eh...I don't know...start with 20....dripping...torque
some more...good, now add some more just in case..."

: )




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