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witfal 10-26-2007 08:40 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ <Trueno@ae86.GTS> said:
WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
> You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
> I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
> morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
> follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
> irradicated.


And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
the world today.

Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.

BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.

The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.


F.H. 10-26-2007 09:51 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
witfal wrote:
> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ <Trueno@ae86.GTS> said:
> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>> You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
>> I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
>> morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we
>> don't
>> follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
>> irradicated.

>
> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
> the world today.
>
> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.


The Irony of the Month award goes to......., Witless, who already forgot
Saddam Hussein and the "Axis of Evil."

F.H. 10-26-2007 09:51 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
witfal wrote:
> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ <Trueno@ae86.GTS> said:
> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>> You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
>> I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
>> morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we
>> don't
>> follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
>> irradicated.

>
> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
> the world today.
>
> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.


The Irony of the Month award goes to......., Witless, who already forgot
Saddam Hussein and the "Axis of Evil."

Fartus Ignitus 10-26-2007 10:40 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>
> > You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
> > I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
> > morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
> > follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
> > irradicated.

>
> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
> the world today.
>
> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
> Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
> crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
> off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
> full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
> poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.
>
> BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
> way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
> the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
> fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
> did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
> here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.
>
> The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.


The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
except one were from Saudi Arabia.

It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how
brown they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our
families down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil
producing states.


Fartus Ignitus 10-26-2007 10:40 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>
> > You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
> > I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
> > morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
> > follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
> > irradicated.

>
> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
> the world today.
>
> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
> Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
> crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
> off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
> full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
> poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.
>
> BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
> way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
> the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
> fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
> did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
> here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.
>
> The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.


The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
except one were from Saudi Arabia.

It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how
brown they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our
families down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil
producing states.


Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 10-26-2007 10:56 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:40:54 -0700, Fartus Ignitus wrote:

> On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
>> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>>
>> > You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way
>> > and I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But
>> > these morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and
>> > that we don't follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves,
>> > so we must be irradicated.

>>
>> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
>> the world today.
>>
>> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
>> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded. Instead
>> of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during crises,
>> these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds off of
>> their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen full so as
>> to support the very few in the country who live above poverty. Any
>> communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.
>>
>> BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
>> way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on the
>> left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the fit,
>> as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it did, then
>> people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get here. I've
>> yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.
>>
>> The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.

>
> The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
> that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
> except one were from Saudi Arabia.
>
> It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how brown
> they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our families
> down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil producing
> states.



I...I...AGREE with Fartus Ignitus?!?!?! <THUD!!!>

BTW, how did this get crossed to so many groups...?



Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 10-26-2007 10:56 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:40:54 -0700, Fartus Ignitus wrote:

> On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
>> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>>
>> > You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way
>> > and I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But
>> > these morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and
>> > that we don't follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves,
>> > so we must be irradicated.

>>
>> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
>> the world today.
>>
>> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
>> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded. Instead
>> of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during crises,
>> these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds off of
>> their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen full so as
>> to support the very few in the country who live above poverty. Any
>> communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.
>>
>> BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
>> way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on the
>> left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the fit,
>> as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it did, then
>> people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get here. I've
>> yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.
>>
>> The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.

>
> The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
> that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
> except one were from Saudi Arabia.
>
> It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how brown
> they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our families
> down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil producing
> states.



I...I...AGREE with Fartus Ignitus?!?!?! <THUD!!!>

BTW, how did this get crossed to so many groups...?



bill 10-26-2007 11:46 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 26, 10:40 pm, Fartus Ignitus <fartusigni...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
> > WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?

>
> > > You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
> > > I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
> > > morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
> > > follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
> > > irradicated.

>
> > And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
> > the world today.

>
> > Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
> > countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
> > Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
> > crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
> > off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
> > full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
> > poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.

>
> > BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
> > way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
> > the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
> > fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
> > did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
> > here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.

>
> > The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.

>
> The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
> that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
> except one were from Saudi Arabia.
>
> It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how
> brown they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our
> families down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil
> producing states.


Yes, it goes to the oil companies trying to accomplish the
maximizing of profits. it goes to the devout Islamics who believe the
Koran when it says "kill the unbeliever wherever you may find him".
It goes to our western liberals who have so little respect for other
cultures that they set up "womens shelters" in Saudi Arabia and
Afghanistan where women openly flaunt the law of the land. It goes to
commuters who want their 4 bedroom house so badly that they are
willing to drive for 2 hours a day to get it. It goes to our
leadership which blathers about hydrogen and ethanol as though those
can possibly have relevance. It goes to Christian fundamentalists who
are basically bin laden minus the turban. It goes to the The prophet
Muhammed who said "the laws of god supersede the laws of man", which
means that a Muslim is a Muslim first and an American second. It goes
to Bill Clinton who signed the law that the CIA cannot buy information
from criminals (as though Polly homemaker has info about Al-Qaeda).
It goes to the environmentalist movement here which blocked the
construction of nuclear plants for 40 years so far.

These problems can be laid at anyone's feet with justice. The
sad truth is that this is a problem caused by, ignored by, exacerbated
by, and continued by, YOU AND I and every other specific person.

In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
stop.


bill 10-26-2007 11:46 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 26, 10:40 pm, Fartus Ignitus <fartusigni...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
> > WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?

>
> > > You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
> > > I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
> > > morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
> > > follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
> > > irradicated.

>
> > And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
> > the world today.

>
> > Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
> > countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
> > Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
> > crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
> > off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
> > full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
> > poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.

>
> > BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
> > way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
> > the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
> > fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
> > did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
> > here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.

>
> > The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.

>
> The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
> that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
> except one were from Saudi Arabia.
>
> It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how
> brown they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our
> families down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil
> producing states.


Yes, it goes to the oil companies trying to accomplish the
maximizing of profits. it goes to the devout Islamics who believe the
Koran when it says "kill the unbeliever wherever you may find him".
It goes to our western liberals who have so little respect for other
cultures that they set up "womens shelters" in Saudi Arabia and
Afghanistan where women openly flaunt the law of the land. It goes to
commuters who want their 4 bedroom house so badly that they are
willing to drive for 2 hours a day to get it. It goes to our
leadership which blathers about hydrogen and ethanol as though those
can possibly have relevance. It goes to Christian fundamentalists who
are basically bin laden minus the turban. It goes to the The prophet
Muhammed who said "the laws of god supersede the laws of man", which
means that a Muslim is a Muslim first and an American second. It goes
to Bill Clinton who signed the law that the CIA cannot buy information
from criminals (as though Polly homemaker has info about Al-Qaeda).
It goes to the environmentalist movement here which blocked the
construction of nuclear plants for 40 years so far.

These problems can be laid at anyone's feet with justice. The
sad truth is that this is a problem caused by, ignored by, exacerbated
by, and continued by, YOU AND I and every other specific person.

In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
stop.


F.H. 10-27-2007 12:59 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
bill wrote:
> On Oct 26, 10:40 pm, Fartus Ignitus <fartusigni...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
>>> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>>>> You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
>>>> I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
>>>> morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
>>>> follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
>>>> irradicated.
>>> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
>>> the world today.
>>> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
>>> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
>>> Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
>>> crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
>>> off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
>>> full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
>>> poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.
>>> BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
>>> way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
>>> the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
>>> fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
>>> did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
>>> here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.
>>> The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.

>> The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
>> that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
>> except one were from Saudi Arabia.
>>
>> It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how
>> brown they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our
>> families down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil
>> producing states.

>
> Yes, it goes to the oil companies trying to accomplish the
> maximizing of profits. it goes to the devout Islamics who believe the
> Koran when it says "kill the unbeliever wherever you may find him".
> It goes to our western liberals who have so little respect for other
> cultures that they set up "womens shelters" in Saudi Arabia and
> Afghanistan where women openly flaunt the law of the land. It goes to
> commuters who want their 4 bedroom house so badly that they are
> willing to drive for 2 hours a day to get it. It goes to our
> leadership which blathers about hydrogen and ethanol as though those
> can possibly have relevance. It goes to Christian fundamentalists who
> are basically bin laden minus the turban. It goes to the The prophet
> Muhammed who said "the laws of god supersede the laws of man", which
> means that a Muslim is a Muslim first and an American second. It goes
> to Bill Clinton who signed the law that the CIA cannot buy information
> from criminals (as though Polly homemaker has info about Al-Qaeda).
> It goes to the environmentalist movement here which blocked the
> construction of nuclear plants for 40 years so far.
>
> These problems can be laid at anyone's feet with justice. The
> sad truth is that this is a problem caused by, ignored by, exacerbated
> by, and continued by, YOU AND I and every other specific person.
>
> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> stop.


Heh, an accurate assessment. Especially the "It goes to Christian
fundamentalists who are basically bin laden minus the turban." Welcome
to Rome, circa 2007.


F.H. 10-27-2007 12:59 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
bill wrote:
> On Oct 26, 10:40 pm, Fartus Ignitus <fartusigni...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 8:40 pm, witfal <nos...@all4.me> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2007-10-26 17:32:34 -0700, Hachiroku <Tru...@ae86.GTS> said:
>>> WHY, you freaking A-HOLE!?!?! What the hell did we do to you?
>>>> You know, if you weren't such an idiot, I'd just say, You go your way and
>>>> I'll go mine; believe what you want and I'll do likewise." But these
>>>> morons blame the US for their ills, and call us Infidels and that we don't
>>>> follow the Koran, and our women don't cover themselves, so we must be
>>>> irradicated.
>>> And what you describe differs not a bit from every two-bit dictator in
>>> the world today.
>>> Read the speeches of former Soviet premiers. Read Castro, Chavez, or
>>> countless others who need a boogeyman to lead their weak-minded.
>>> Instead of gratitude for what the U.S. gives the world in aid during
>>> crises, these cretins need us as a bad guy. Why? It takes their minds
>>> off of their misery, starvation, and the wallets they've never seen
>>> full so as to support the very few in the country who live above
>>> poverty. Any communist regime of past or present fits this nicely.
>>> BTW, for any idiot thinking they can twist the above to apply in any
>>> way, shape, or form, to fit our current or past leadership, be it on
>>> the left or right, I've chosen my words carefully. You'll not make the
>>> fit, as the U.S. simply does not fall into this description. If it
>>> did, then people from the applicable areas wouldn't be fighting to get
>>> here. I've yet to see illegals trying to sneak into Venezuela or Cuba.
>>> The issue is control. Always has been, and always will be.

>> The amazing thing is there is a school in Virginia run by SAUDI ARABIA
>> that teachs hate against Americans. But then all the 9/11 hijackers
>> except one were from Saudi Arabia.
>>
>> It's a much deeper problem than what they wear on their heads or how
>> brown they are. American oil companies will sell you and me and our
>> families down the river for oil and profits while they protect oil
>> producing states.

>
> Yes, it goes to the oil companies trying to accomplish the
> maximizing of profits. it goes to the devout Islamics who believe the
> Koran when it says "kill the unbeliever wherever you may find him".
> It goes to our western liberals who have so little respect for other
> cultures that they set up "womens shelters" in Saudi Arabia and
> Afghanistan where women openly flaunt the law of the land. It goes to
> commuters who want their 4 bedroom house so badly that they are
> willing to drive for 2 hours a day to get it. It goes to our
> leadership which blathers about hydrogen and ethanol as though those
> can possibly have relevance. It goes to Christian fundamentalists who
> are basically bin laden minus the turban. It goes to the The prophet
> Muhammed who said "the laws of god supersede the laws of man", which
> means that a Muslim is a Muslim first and an American second. It goes
> to Bill Clinton who signed the law that the CIA cannot buy information
> from criminals (as though Polly homemaker has info about Al-Qaeda).
> It goes to the environmentalist movement here which blocked the
> construction of nuclear plants for 40 years so far.
>
> These problems can be laid at anyone's feet with justice. The
> sad truth is that this is a problem caused by, ignored by, exacerbated
> by, and continued by, YOU AND I and every other specific person.
>
> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> stop.


Heh, an accurate assessment. Especially the "It goes to Christian
fundamentalists who are basically bin laden minus the turban." Welcome
to Rome, circa 2007.


Dan Bloomquist 10-27-2007 02:43 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
F.H. wrote:
> bill wrote:
>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>> stop.

>
> Heh, an accurate assessment.


Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
bleeding hearts.

Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL

Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
to be done.

Dan Bloomquist 10-27-2007 02:43 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
F.H. wrote:
> bill wrote:
>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>> stop.

>
> Heh, an accurate assessment.


Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
bleeding hearts.

Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL

Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
to be done.

n5hsr 10-27-2007 07:50 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 

"Dan Bloomquist" <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
news:P6BUi.19712$ya1.10386@news02.roc.ny...
> F.H. wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>> stop.

>>
>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>
> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where did
> the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal left'. So,
> does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a contradiction to
> me as 'owners' are typically business people, not bleeding hearts.
>
> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>
> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all on
> this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a or
> it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>
> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> to be done.


Dear Dumbass,

Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country. You see it
in the blame game already starting up about how Bush is responsible for the
California wildfires. I've been fighting the loony liberal left's lies
since 1970, WTF have you been doing? And they have practically anointed
Hillary the next Prasident and Reich Chancellor, or is that Party Secretary?

Our 'present condition' is this:

1. The Democrats want to be in power and run things just like the
Communists did in Russia.

2. The Republicans have lost their way and got whipped at the polls in 06,
because the average American doesn't want 1 and the Republicans appear to be
caving to 1.

3. The media are trying to hide fact 1 and 2 by spinning it to appear that
something else is happening.

4. We could be tapping ANWR, and drilling for oil off the coast of Florida
and California instead of paying ragheads for their oil, but environmental
whack-jobs don't want to do that.

5. We could be using nuclear power, but after the China Syndrome, the
environmental panic babies don't want that either.

6. We could be developing alternative fuel sources, but Big Oil wants to
make sure that any such alternates to oil stay costly and inefficient with a
little help from the environmental nut-cases.

Now go get your nurse to give you a high colonic. Now hold it and go do a
20 mile hike. That ought to clear out your brains.

Charles of Schaumburg
Aged 50 years.



n5hsr 10-27-2007 07:50 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 

"Dan Bloomquist" <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
news:P6BUi.19712$ya1.10386@news02.roc.ny...
> F.H. wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>> stop.

>>
>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>
> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where did
> the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal left'. So,
> does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a contradiction to
> me as 'owners' are typically business people, not bleeding hearts.
>
> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>
> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all on
> this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a or
> it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>
> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> to be done.


Dear Dumbass,

Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country. You see it
in the blame game already starting up about how Bush is responsible for the
California wildfires. I've been fighting the loony liberal left's lies
since 1970, WTF have you been doing? And they have practically anointed
Hillary the next Prasident and Reich Chancellor, or is that Party Secretary?

Our 'present condition' is this:

1. The Democrats want to be in power and run things just like the
Communists did in Russia.

2. The Republicans have lost their way and got whipped at the polls in 06,
because the average American doesn't want 1 and the Republicans appear to be
caving to 1.

3. The media are trying to hide fact 1 and 2 by spinning it to appear that
something else is happening.

4. We could be tapping ANWR, and drilling for oil off the coast of Florida
and California instead of paying ragheads for their oil, but environmental
whack-jobs don't want to do that.

5. We could be using nuclear power, but after the China Syndrome, the
environmental panic babies don't want that either.

6. We could be developing alternative fuel sources, but Big Oil wants to
make sure that any such alternates to oil stay costly and inefficient with a
little help from the environmental nut-cases.

Now go get your nurse to give you a high colonic. Now hold it and go do a
20 mile hike. That ought to clear out your brains.

Charles of Schaumburg
Aged 50 years.



JoeSpareBedroom 10-27-2007 08:16 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
"bill" <ford_prefect42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...

> The most recent planned
> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> stop.
>


It never went operational? Are you sure about that?



JoeSpareBedroom 10-27-2007 08:16 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
"bill" <ford_prefect42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...

> The most recent planned
> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> stop.
>


It never went operational? Are you sure about that?



bill 10-27-2007 11:29 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 27, 8:16 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "bill" <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > The most recent planned
> > nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> > never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> > stop.

>
> It never went operational? Are you sure about that?


Well, that's the way I remembered it, however, on further
research, unit 2 never went operational. Unit 1 merely suffered 4
years of delays in going operational after construction was
completed. I stand corrected.


bill 10-27-2007 11:29 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 27, 8:16 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "bill" <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > The most recent planned
> > nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> > never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> > stop.

>
> It never went operational? Are you sure about that?


Well, that's the way I remembered it, however, on further
research, unit 2 never went operational. Unit 1 merely suffered 4
years of delays in going operational after construction was
completed. I stand corrected.


F.H. 10-27-2007 01:19 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> F.H. wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>> stop.

>>
>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>
> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> bleeding hearts.


Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
"Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
favorite of mine.

> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>
> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......


I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis. ;)

> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> to be done.


Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
"education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.

Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."

To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.

F.H. 10-27-2007 01:19 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> F.H. wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>> stop.

>>
>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>
> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> bleeding hearts.


Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
"Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
favorite of mine.

> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>
> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......


I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis. ;)

> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> to be done.


Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
"education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.

Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."

To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.

knews4u2chew@yahoo.com 10-27-2007 01:27 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Satanist Banksters?
 
On Oct 27, 10:19 am, "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> > F.H. wrote:
> >> bill wrote:
> >>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> >>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
> >>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> >>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> >>> stop.

>
> >> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>
> > Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> > did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> > left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> > contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> > bleeding hearts.

>
> Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
> "Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
> the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
> favorite of mine.
>
> > Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....

>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0/24/notes1024...

>
> > Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> > on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> > or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

>
> I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis. ;)
>
> > Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> > to be done.

>
> Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
> "education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
> believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
> the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.
>
> Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
> to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
> not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
> way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
> to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."
>
> To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


They think they are "managing" us just fine.
They are lining their pokets with death and destruction while they
hide out underground.
http://www.fknnewz.com/signup.php


knews4u2chew@yahoo.com 10-27-2007 01:27 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Satanist Banksters?
 
On Oct 27, 10:19 am, "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> > F.H. wrote:
> >> bill wrote:
> >>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> >>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
> >>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> >>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> >>> stop.

>
> >> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>
> > Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> > did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> > left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> > contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> > bleeding hearts.

>
> Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
> "Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
> the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
> favorite of mine.
>
> > Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....

>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0/24/notes1024...

>
> > Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> > on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> > or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

>
> I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis. ;)
>
> > Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> > to be done.

>
> Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
> "education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
> believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
> the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.
>
> Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
> to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
> not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
> way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
> to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."
>
> To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


They think they are "managing" us just fine.
They are lining their pokets with death and destruction while they
hide out underground.
http://www.fknnewz.com/signup.php


F.H. 10-27-2007 01:49 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
n5hsr wrote:
> "Dan Bloomquist" <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
> news:P6BUi.19712$ya1.10386@news02.roc.ny...
>> F.H. wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>>> stop.
>>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where did
>> the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal left'. So,
>> does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a contradiction to
>> me as 'owners' are typically business people, not bleeding hearts.
>>
>> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>>
>> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all on
>> this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a or
>> it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>>
>> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
>> to be done.

>
> Dear Dumbass,
>
> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.


The public is *not* primarily informed by newspapers and the media that
most influences public opinion is mostly right wing. Rupert Murdoch is
hardly "liberal" nor is Clear Channel who owns over 1200 radio stations
in the United States. The so called "liberal" LA Times sports a bevy of
right wing columnist and recently ran a piece by Niall Ferguson entitled
"One Strike, Iran Could be Wiped Out."

> Our 'present condition' is this:
>
> 1. The Democrats want to be in power and run things just like the
> Communists did in Russia.


Gosh! How did you manipulate your way around the "liberal" media to
find these crucial 'facts?'

> 2. The Republicans have lost their way and got whipped at the polls in 06,
> because the average American doesn't want 1 and the Republicans appear to be
> caving to 1.


LOL, right.

> 3. The media are trying to hide fact 1 and 2 by spinning it to appear that
> something else is happening.


*Something* is spinning that's for sure. Ask your doctor about
Meclizine (Antivert®). ;)


> 4. We could be tapping ANWR, and drilling for oil off the coast of Florida
> and California instead of paying ragheads for their oil


Merciful snip / / / / /

F.H. 10-27-2007 01:49 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
n5hsr wrote:
> "Dan Bloomquist" <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
> news:P6BUi.19712$ya1.10386@news02.roc.ny...
>> F.H. wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>>> stop.
>>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where did
>> the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal left'. So,
>> does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a contradiction to
>> me as 'owners' are typically business people, not bleeding hearts.
>>
>> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>>
>> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all on
>> this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a or
>> it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>>
>> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
>> to be done.

>
> Dear Dumbass,
>
> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.


The public is *not* primarily informed by newspapers and the media that
most influences public opinion is mostly right wing. Rupert Murdoch is
hardly "liberal" nor is Clear Channel who owns over 1200 radio stations
in the United States. The so called "liberal" LA Times sports a bevy of
right wing columnist and recently ran a piece by Niall Ferguson entitled
"One Strike, Iran Could be Wiped Out."

> Our 'present condition' is this:
>
> 1. The Democrats want to be in power and run things just like the
> Communists did in Russia.


Gosh! How did you manipulate your way around the "liberal" media to
find these crucial 'facts?'

> 2. The Republicans have lost their way and got whipped at the polls in 06,
> because the average American doesn't want 1 and the Republicans appear to be
> caving to 1.


LOL, right.

> 3. The media are trying to hide fact 1 and 2 by spinning it to appear that
> something else is happening.


*Something* is spinning that's for sure. Ask your doctor about
Meclizine (Antivert®). ;)


> 4. We could be tapping ANWR, and drilling for oil off the coast of Florida
> and California instead of paying ragheads for their oil


Merciful snip / / / / /

F.H. 10-27-2007 02:05 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
n5hsr wrote:

> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.



New Item:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 — The head of the Federal Communications Commission
has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media
ownership rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to
own both a newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.

Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
the next two months — a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
for some executives of media conglomerates.

Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.

http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight

F.H. 10-27-2007 02:05 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
n5hsr wrote:

> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.



New Item:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 — The head of the Federal Communications Commission
has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media
ownership rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to
own both a newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.

Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
the next two months — a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
for some executives of media conglomerates.

Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.

http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight

JoeSpareBedroom 10-27-2007 02:07 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
"F.H." <connectu2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:g5LUi.394$%r.365@trnddc01...
> n5hsr wrote:
>
>> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.

>
> New Item:
>
> WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 — The head of the Federal Communications Commission
> has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media ownership
> rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to own both a
> newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.
>
> Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
> the next two months — a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
> for some executives of media conglomerates.
>
> Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
> complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
> lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
> both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.
>
> http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight


Great news for Clear Channel, which operates the right wing radio station
here that pukes Limbaugh onto the airwaves.



JoeSpareBedroom 10-27-2007 02:07 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
"F.H." <connectu2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:g5LUi.394$%r.365@trnddc01...
> n5hsr wrote:
>
>> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.

>
> New Item:
>
> WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 — The head of the Federal Communications Commission
> has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media ownership
> rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to own both a
> newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.
>
> Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
> the next two months — a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
> for some executives of media conglomerates.
>
> Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
> complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
> lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
> both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.
>
> http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight


Great news for Clear Channel, which operates the right wing radio station
here that pukes Limbaugh onto the airwaves.



EdV 10-27-2007 02:32 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
Going back to the original post. Hachi, dont get too upset, that is
exactly how they want *US* to feel. So there will be war and then
prices of oil will sky rocket.. again and again.

The best way to solve the problem is fight fire with fire. Don't buy
oil from them, build more nuclear power plants, nuclear radiation
waste will be used as WMD, use more electric cars, electric cars
recharge from nuclear power plants. No oil , no war, no pollution, no
. Its either that or use the technology US have learned from
Roswell.

Sweet!



EdV 10-27-2007 02:32 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
Going back to the original post. Hachi, dont get too upset, that is
exactly how they want *US* to feel. So there will be war and then
prices of oil will sky rocket.. again and again.

The best way to solve the problem is fight fire with fire. Don't buy
oil from them, build more nuclear power plants, nuclear radiation
waste will be used as WMD, use more electric cars, electric cars
recharge from nuclear power plants. No oil , no war, no pollution, no
. Its either that or use the technology US have learned from
Roswell.

Sweet!



Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 10-27-2007 09:48 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:

> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned nuclear
> power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
> operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.



Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition.

The funny thing is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.

Can't have it ALL ways, people!


Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B 10-27-2007 09:48 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:

> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned nuclear
> power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
> operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.



Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition.

The funny thing is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.

Can't have it ALL ways, people!


Dan Bloomquist 10-27-2007 11:59 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
F.H. wrote:
> Dan Bloomquist wrote:
>> F.H. wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>>> stop.
>>>
>>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>>
>> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
>> did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
>> left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
>> contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
>> bleeding hearts.

>
> Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
> "Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
> the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
> favorite of mine.


Well, I'm sorry for snipping. But I do not agree with what was posted.
For instance:
"It goes to Christian fundamentalists.."

Well, no it doesn't. It goes for the leadership of the fundamentalists.

And:
"Muhammed who said "the laws of god supersede the laws of man", which
means that a Muslim is a Muslim first and an American second."

Retarded on its face.

"The
sad truth is that this is a problem caused by, ignored by, exacerbated
by, and continued by, YOU AND I and every other specific person."

This guy is a victim of the the very thing he rants about but is so
overwhelmed by the talking heads, he can't see it.

>> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well
>> educated.....
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>>
>>
>> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are
>> all on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we
>> could'a or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

>
> I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis. ;)


If usenet is not about ego, what is it? And I'm not setting my self
apart, before the claims of such start.....

>> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is
>> something to be done.

>
> Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
> "education" but 'believing.'


Yes, I've done it for years here. Belief is just what humans do. They
can't be 'blamed'. But the leadership that takes advantage of the weak
minded....

> Seems like those in power these days only
> believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
> the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.


It is what humans do. If more folks on usenet would just get a clue, the
world might be different. But to talk about all those nuclear plants we
'could'a' built.... What a stupid continuation of the same old stuff.

> Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
> to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
> not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
> way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
> to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."


Three cheers. So, I'll hunker down as I've bothered to learn from history.

> To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.


Iran, before the next election from what I see so far......

Dan Bloomquist 10-27-2007 11:59 PM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
F.H. wrote:
> Dan Bloomquist wrote:
>> F.H. wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>>> stop.
>>>
>>> Heh, an accurate assessment.

>>
>> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
>> did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
>> left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
>> contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
>> bleeding hearts.

>
> Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
> "Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
> the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
> favorite of mine.


Well, I'm sorry for snipping. But I do not agree with what was posted.
For instance:
"It goes to Christian fundamentalists.."

Well, no it doesn't. It goes for the leadership of the fundamentalists.

And:
"Muhammed who said "the laws of god supersede the laws of man", which
means that a Muslim is a Muslim first and an American second."

Retarded on its face.

"The
sad truth is that this is a problem caused by, ignored by, exacerbated
by, and continued by, YOU AND I and every other specific person."

This guy is a victim of the the very thing he rants about but is so
overwhelmed by the talking heads, he can't see it.

>> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well
>> educated.....
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>>
>>
>> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are
>> all on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we
>> could'a or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

>
> I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis. ;)


If usenet is not about ego, what is it? And I'm not setting my self
apart, before the claims of such start.....

>> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is
>> something to be done.

>
> Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
> "education" but 'believing.'


Yes, I've done it for years here. Belief is just what humans do. They
can't be 'blamed'. But the leadership that takes advantage of the weak
minded....

> Seems like those in power these days only
> believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
> the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.


It is what humans do. If more folks on usenet would just get a clue, the
world might be different. But to talk about all those nuclear plants we
'could'a' built.... What a stupid continuation of the same old stuff.

> Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
> to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
> not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
> way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
> to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."


Three cheers. So, I'll hunker down as I've bothered to learn from history.

> To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.


Iran, before the next election from what I see so far......

Grumpy AuContraire 10-28-2007 10:47 AM

Re: (OT:) New Energy Sources... Was: Why do I have such a strongdislike for Ragheads?
 


Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:
>
>
>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned nuclear
>>power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
>>operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.

>
>
>
> Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
> miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
> best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition.
>
> The funny thing is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
> for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.
>
> Can't have it ALL ways, people!
>




That's for sure.

To clarify, the original Seabrook (Unit 1) was completed and is
operational today. It is Unit 2 that was never completed and later canceled.

That said, nuclear power is the only interim option for energy
independence or at least a reduction in dependence on foreign sources of
fossil fuels.

I'm afraid that we have lost our way and are doomed to a role of third
world status and already have made considerable progress in that direction.

Sometimes, I think that the country would be better off under a
benevolent dictator than our current free for all form of government. At
least we would not be subject to continuous political bombardment that
never seems to end or ever produces anything of worth for that matter...

JT

Grumpy AuContraire 10-28-2007 10:47 AM

Re: (OT:) New Energy Sources... Was: Why do I have such a strongdislike for Ragheads?
 


Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:
>
>
>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned nuclear
>>power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
>>operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.

>
>
>
> Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
> miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
> best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition.
>
> The funny thing is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
> for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.
>
> Can't have it ALL ways, people!
>




That's for sure.

To clarify, the original Seabrook (Unit 1) was completed and is
operational today. It is Unit 2 that was never completed and later canceled.

That said, nuclear power is the only interim option for energy
independence or at least a reduction in dependence on foreign sources of
fossil fuels.

I'm afraid that we have lost our way and are doomed to a role of third
world status and already have made considerable progress in that direction.

Sometimes, I think that the country would be better off under a
benevolent dictator than our current free for all form of government. At
least we would not be subject to continuous political bombardment that
never seems to end or ever produces anything of worth for that matter...

JT

bill 10-28-2007 11:08 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 27, 9:48 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:
> > In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> > is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned nuclear
> > power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
> > operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.

>
> Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
> miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
> best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition.
>
> The funny thing is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
> for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.
>
> Can't have it ALL ways, people!


Right. brings to mind ted kennedy killing the offshore windfarm
near the cape.
Fact is, if ya can't build anything, anywhere, then how do you
intend to produce anything?
If you cannot drill where the oil is, you will need to import it
from countries that aren't as stupid. If you cannot build CTL plants,
then you'll need to burn oil. If you cannot build coal or nuclear
power plants then you'll need to squander the remaining natural gas.
We simply have entirely too many cocksuckers in this country who
expect leaders selected by the populace to be different to the
populace. Our people are dumber than dirt, so we select leaders whose
plans are even dumber. Problem isn't Bush or any leadership, we live
in a world where the leadership is the people, problem is, the people
are a bunch of stupid shits who just wait for "leadership", as a
result of which, we are where we are.
solution is easy. Drill in anwr to buy a little time, build
nuclear power plants to replace the coal and natural gas plants, Build
coal to liquid plants and gas to liquid plants to cover the next 30 or
50 years, and start heavy research on PHEVs while realigning our
development style to support public transportation. it's simple, it's
feasible, and it would work. we are not doing it for the same reason
we aren't doing anything else, we are simply too dumb.


bill 10-28-2007 11:08 AM

Re: (OT:) Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 
On Oct 27, 9:48 pm, Hachiroku <Tru...@AE86.gts> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:
> > In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> > is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned nuclear
> > power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
> > operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.

>
> Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
> miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
> best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition.
>
> The funny thing is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
> for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.
>
> Can't have it ALL ways, people!


Right. brings to mind ted kennedy killing the offshore windfarm
near the cape.
Fact is, if ya can't build anything, anywhere, then how do you
intend to produce anything?
If you cannot drill where the oil is, you will need to import it
from countries that aren't as stupid. If you cannot build CTL plants,
then you'll need to burn oil. If you cannot build coal or nuclear
power plants then you'll need to squander the remaining natural gas.
We simply have entirely too many cocksuckers in this country who
expect leaders selected by the populace to be different to the
populace. Our people are dumber than dirt, so we select leaders whose
plans are even dumber. Problem isn't Bush or any leadership, we live
in a world where the leadership is the people, problem is, the people
are a bunch of stupid shits who just wait for "leadership", as a
result of which, we are where we are.
solution is easy. Drill in anwr to buy a little time, build
nuclear power plants to replace the coal and natural gas plants, Build
coal to liquid plants and gas to liquid plants to cover the next 30 or
50 years, and start heavy research on PHEVs while realigning our
development style to support public transportation. it's simple, it's
feasible, and it would work. we are not doing it for the same reason
we aren't doing anything else, we are simply too dumb.


Enrico Fermi 10-28-2007 11:25 AM

Re: (OT:) New Energy Sources... Was: Why do I have such a strong dislike for Ragheads?
 

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
news:1i1Vi.290291$ax1.99282@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>
> Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:56 -0700, bill wrote:
>>
>>
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>nuclear
>>>power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and never went
>>>operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to stop.

>>
>>
>>
>> Are you in Mass by any chance? There was one that was killed about 15
>> miles from where I live, and the company went further west to the next
>> best site, where they are also meeting strong opposition. The funny thing
>> is, the one posing the opposition are also the ones crying
>> for independance from Foreign Oil and coal and nuclear power plants.
>> Can't have it ALL ways, people!
>>

>
>
>
> That's for sure.
>
> To clarify, the original Seabrook (Unit 1) was completed and is
> operational today. It is Unit 2 that was never completed and later
> canceled.
>
> That said, nuclear power is the only interim option for energy
> independence or at least a reduction in dependence on foreign sources of
> fossil fuels.
>
> I'm afraid that we have lost our way and are doomed to a role of third
> world status and already have made considerable progress in that
> direction.
>
> Sometimes, I think that the country would be better off under a benevolent
> dictator than our current free for all form of government. At least we
> would not be subject to continuous political bombardment that never seems
> to end or ever produces anything of worth for that matter...
>
> JT


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be
the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under
omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep,
his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our
own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience."
-- C.S. Lewis




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