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Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Just met a guy that has an Astro vanwith 285,000 miles on it and uses
Valvoline 5w-30 He is a courier so the van is moving 10 hours a day. Regular maintenance even with PENISOIL, errr penzoil,, will return good results. "noway" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:7TOVa.109447$R92.101925@news2.central.cox.net ... : Does anyone have long term experience with Royal Purple for normal driving? : It seems to be carried at a lot of high performance shops, but looks like : thats about it. : : |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Bill Putney wrote:
> "John D." wrote: >> ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car >> and (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain >> ignorance. > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. > In their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch > over to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the > guinea pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement > engines in those days. > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > Bill Putney > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my Agreed ... and ... there is a significant portion of this forum's participants and lurkers who were just being BORN when Mobil1 first debuted. So .... *those* people did not "forget." LOL -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot show |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Bill Putney wrote:
> "John D." wrote: >> ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car >> and (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain >> ignorance. > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. > In their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch > over to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the > guinea pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement > engines in those days. > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > Bill Putney > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my Agreed ... and ... there is a significant portion of this forum's participants and lurkers who were just being BORN when Mobil1 first debuted. So .... *those* people did not "forget." LOL -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot show |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:05:38 -0400, Bill Putney wrote:
> "John D." wrote: >> ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >> (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > those days. > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > Bill Putney > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with "x") > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was another claim. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:05:38 -0400, Bill Putney wrote:
> "John D." wrote: >> ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >> (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > those days. > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > Bill Putney > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with "x") > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was another claim. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Bill,
I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 years ago if not in the 70s. NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back then, hence it wasn't even an issue. John D. Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > "John D." wrote: > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > those days. > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > Bill Putney > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with "x") > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Bill,
I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 years ago if not in the 70s. NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back then, hence it wasn't even an issue. John D. Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > "John D." wrote: > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > those days. > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > Bill Putney > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > address with "x") > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
"Tom Hamilton" <thamilt5.ohno@snet.net> wrote in message news:pan.2003.08.01.00.08.01.223579@snet.net... > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:05:38 -0400, Bill Putney wrote: > > > "John D." wrote: > >> ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > >> to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > >> synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > >> (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > those days. > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > Bill Putney > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > address with "x") > > > > > > Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was > another claim. Reminds me of a story - I used to work in the automotive department at Target, (back when they did car service) A guy comes in screaming because his engine is not running good, oil smells burnt etc. He sail Mobil One advertise 25K between oil changes and he was not even up to 22K and his motor was shot. He thought target would get him a new motor, because that's where he bought the oil from. I calmly referred him to Mobil and then laughed at his expense when he left. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
"Tom Hamilton" <thamilt5.ohno@snet.net> wrote in message news:pan.2003.08.01.00.08.01.223579@snet.net... > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:05:38 -0400, Bill Putney wrote: > > > "John D." wrote: > >> ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > >> to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > >> synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > >> (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > those days. > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > Bill Putney > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > address with "x") > > > > > > Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was > another claim. Reminds me of a story - I used to work in the automotive department at Target, (back when they did car service) A guy comes in screaming because his engine is not running good, oil smells burnt etc. He sail Mobil One advertise 25K between oil changes and he was not even up to 22K and his motor was shot. He thought target would get him a new motor, because that's where he bought the oil from. I calmly referred him to Mobil and then laughed at his expense when he left. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
>>>>...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >>>>to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >>>>synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >>>>(2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. >>>> >>>It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In >>>their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal >>>swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over >>>to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea >>>pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in >>>those days. >>> >>>People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing >>>days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. >>>They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. >>> >>>Bill Putney >>>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >>>address with "x") >>> >>> >>> >>Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was >>another claim. >> > Reminds me of a story - > I used to work in the automotive department at Target, (back when they did > car service) A guy comes in screaming because his engine is not running > good, oil smells burnt etc. He sail Mobil One advertise 25K between oil > changes and he was not even up to 22K and his motor was shot. He thought > target would get him a new motor, because that's where he bought the oil > from. I calmly referred him to Mobil and then laughed at his expense when > he left. i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) hehe... -john |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
>>>>...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >>>>to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >>>>synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >>>>(2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. >>>> >>>It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In >>>their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal >>>swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over >>>to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea >>>pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in >>>those days. >>> >>>People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing >>>days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. >>>They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. >>> >>>Bill Putney >>>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >>>address with "x") >>> >>> >>> >>Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was >>another claim. >> > Reminds me of a story - > I used to work in the automotive department at Target, (back when they did > car service) A guy comes in screaming because his engine is not running > good, oil smells burnt etc. He sail Mobil One advertise 25K between oil > changes and he was not even up to 22K and his motor was shot. He thought > target would get him a new motor, because that's where he bought the oil > from. I calmly referred him to Mobil and then laughed at his expense when > he left. i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) hehe... -john |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
I use Amsoil and change every 35,000 with a filter change in the middle of
that period. Mainly because I'm lazy. I used dino oil and only changed it every 5,000 and my '95 Legacy is still running strong with 285,000! If you are buying synthetic to preserve your engine and changing it every 5,000 or sooner you are wasting your money...unless you are in the Antarctic. TG "john" <rsx18@mistralaero.com> wrote in message news:3F29E067.9090802@mistralaero.com... > > >>>>...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > >>>>to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > >>>>synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > >>>>(2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > >>>> > >>>It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > >>>their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > >>>swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > >>>to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > >>>pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > >>>those days. > >>> > >>>People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > >>>days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > >>>They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > >>> > >>>Bill Putney > >>>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > >>>address with "x") > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was > >>another claim. > >> > > Reminds me of a story - > > I used to work in the automotive department at Target, (back when they did > > car service) A guy comes in screaming because his engine is not running > > good, oil smells burnt etc. He sail Mobil One advertise 25K between oil > > changes and he was not even up to 22K and his motor was shot. He thought > > target would get him a new motor, because that's where he bought the oil > > from. I calmly referred him to Mobil and then laughed at his expense when > > he left. > > > i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) > hehe... > > -john > > |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
I use Amsoil and change every 35,000 with a filter change in the middle of
that period. Mainly because I'm lazy. I used dino oil and only changed it every 5,000 and my '95 Legacy is still running strong with 285,000! If you are buying synthetic to preserve your engine and changing it every 5,000 or sooner you are wasting your money...unless you are in the Antarctic. TG "john" <rsx18@mistralaero.com> wrote in message news:3F29E067.9090802@mistralaero.com... > > >>>>...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > >>>>to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > >>>>synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > >>>>(2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > >>>> > >>>It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > >>>their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > >>>swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > >>>to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > >>>pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > >>>those days. > >>> > >>>People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > >>>days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > >>>They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > >>> > >>>Bill Putney > >>>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > >>>address with "x") > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Don't forget you also could drive 25,000 miles between oil changes was > >>another claim. > >> > > Reminds me of a story - > > I used to work in the automotive department at Target, (back when they did > > car service) A guy comes in screaming because his engine is not running > > good, oil smells burnt etc. He sail Mobil One advertise 25K between oil > > changes and he was not even up to 22K and his motor was shot. He thought > > target would get him a new motor, because that's where he bought the oil > > from. I calmly referred him to Mobil and then laughed at his expense when > > he left. > > > i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) > hehe... > > -john > > |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you
will not like what you find. TG "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... > Bill, > > I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least > researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even > to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think > the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 > years ago if not in the 70s. > > NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to > research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone > knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back > then, hence it wasn't even an issue. > > John D. > > > > > Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > > "John D." wrote: > > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > those days. > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > Bill Putney > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > address with "x") > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you
will not like what you find. TG "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... > Bill, > > I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least > researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even > to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think > the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 > years ago if not in the 70s. > > NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to > research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone > knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back > then, hence it wasn't even an issue. > > John D. > > > > > Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > > "John D." wrote: > > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > those days. > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > Bill Putney > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > address with "x") > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 16:44:05 -0600, TG wrote:
> Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... >> Bill, >> >> I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least >> researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even >> to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think >> the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 >> years ago if not in the 70s. >> >> NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to >> research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone >> knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back >> then, hence it wasn't even an issue. >> >> John D. >> >> >> >> >> Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... >> > "John D." wrote: >> > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >> > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. >> > >> > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In >> > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal >> > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over >> > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea >> > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in >> > those days. >> > >> > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing >> > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. >> > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. >> > >> > Bill Putney >> > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >> > address with "x") >> > >> > >> > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >> > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- How can this be extrapolated to automotive engines? |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 16:44:05 -0600, TG wrote:
> Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... >> Bill, >> >> I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least >> researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even >> to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think >> the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 >> years ago if not in the 70s. >> >> NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to >> research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone >> knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back >> then, hence it wasn't even an issue. >> >> John D. >> >> >> >> >> Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... >> > "John D." wrote: >> > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >> > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. >> > >> > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In >> > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal >> > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over >> > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea >> > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in >> > those days. >> > >> > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing >> > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. >> > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. >> > >> > Bill Putney >> > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >> > address with "x") >> > >> > >> > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >> > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- How can this be extrapolated to automotive engines? |
extrapolated?
OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG
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extrapolated?
OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG
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Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Mobil 1 and aircraft engines really isn't news, but aircraft engines
are one thing, car engines are another. Apples and oranges. I not worried, but thanks anyway. BTW, be sure to let NASA and the military know, too. ;-) John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vilra4gdk1uv0a@corp.supernews.com>... > Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... > > Bill, > > > > I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least > > researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even > > to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think > > the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 > > years ago if not in the 70s. > > > > NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to > > research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone > > knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back > > then, hence it wasn't even an issue. > > > > John D. > > > > > > > > > > Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > > > "John D." wrote: > > > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > > those days. > > > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > > > Bill Putney > > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > > address with "x") > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Mobil 1 and aircraft engines really isn't news, but aircraft engines
are one thing, car engines are another. Apples and oranges. I not worried, but thanks anyway. BTW, be sure to let NASA and the military know, too. ;-) John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vilra4gdk1uv0a@corp.supernews.com>... > Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... > > Bill, > > > > I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least > > researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even > > to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think > > the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 > > years ago if not in the 70s. > > > > NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to > > research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone > > knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back > > then, hence it wasn't even an issue. > > > > John D. > > > > > > > > > > Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > > > "John D." wrote: > > > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > > those days. > > > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > > > Bill Putney > > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > > address with "x") > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames
because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames
because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net,
noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >> flames > because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) > > My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I > didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the > 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that recommendation? -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net,
noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >> flames > because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) > > My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I > didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the > 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that recommendation? -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
Re: extrapolated?
Well, big words save space because they take the place of lots of little words. ;-)
John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vim4ma4s953d7a@corp.supernews.com>... > OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG |
Re: extrapolated?
Well, big words save space because they take the place of lots of little words. ;-)
John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vim4ma4s953d7a@corp.supernews.com>... > OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On 8/2/2003 12:28 AM Philip® spake these words of knowledge:
> In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net, > noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >>> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >>> flames >> because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) >> >> My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I >> didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the >> 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. > > Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil > service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that > recommendation? Phil, my Accord manual says this: "*U.S. Owners* - Follow the Maintenance schedule for Severe Conditions if you drive your car MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions. Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip. Driving in extremely hot [over 90 degrees Fahrenheit (32 degrees Celsius)] conditions. Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving, such as a taxi or a commercial delivery vehicle. Trailer-towing, driving with a roof rack, or driving in mountainous conditions. Driving on muddy, dusty, or deiced roads. NOTE: If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a "severe" condition, you should follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule. *Canadian Owners* - Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions." Reading this last, I note that the manufacturer recommends that a fellow office worker, living here in Alabama, driving the same car under the same conditions, should use a different maintenance schedule than I because he's from Saskatchewan... The Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule includes 10,000 mile oil change intervals; the Severe, 5,000 miles. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- A good friend will come bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... we ed up!" |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On 8/2/2003 12:28 AM Philip® spake these words of knowledge:
> In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net, > noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >>> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >>> flames >> because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) >> >> My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I >> didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the >> 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. > > Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil > service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that > recommendation? Phil, my Accord manual says this: "*U.S. Owners* - Follow the Maintenance schedule for Severe Conditions if you drive your car MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions. Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip. Driving in extremely hot [over 90 degrees Fahrenheit (32 degrees Celsius)] conditions. Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving, such as a taxi or a commercial delivery vehicle. Trailer-towing, driving with a roof rack, or driving in mountainous conditions. Driving on muddy, dusty, or deiced roads. NOTE: If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a "severe" condition, you should follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule. *Canadian Owners* - Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions." Reading this last, I note that the manufacturer recommends that a fellow office worker, living here in Alabama, driving the same car under the same conditions, should use a different maintenance schedule than I because he's from Saskatchewan... The Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule includes 10,000 mile oil change intervals; the Severe, 5,000 miles. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- A good friend will come bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... we ed up!" |
Re: extrapolated?
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 19:24:10 -0600, TG wrote:
> OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG extrapolate v 1: draw from specific cases for more general cases [syn: generalize, generalise, infer] |
Re: extrapolated?
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 19:24:10 -0600, TG wrote:
> OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG extrapolate v 1: draw from specific cases for more general cases [syn: generalize, generalise, infer] |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn@swbell.not> wrote in message
news:3F2B3228.5080908@swbell.not... > Check some of the posts on the forum at www.bobistheoilguy.com > interesting reading > I'll be using Mobil 1 and a pl14459 filter on my new OBW, probably > change oil&filter twice a year or 7500mi whichever comes first.(based on > usage of previous vehicle, this may be about 6k average between changes.) > M1 is $18.88 at wal-Mart in 5 qt. Jugs From what I've read in the forums, Mobil1 TriSynthetic wasn't very good, which is what I was using. Also whatever they called it before that. But there SuperSyn is suppose to be a lot better. Now that really brings a high level of confidence to the table. I have 4 quarts of TriSyn left, and live in the Omaha, NE area if anyone wants it, just let me know. I'm more convinced than ever I won't be doing Mobil anything again. Just convinces me that I'm right not to be using Mobil1 anymore. Seems like a lot of people like Amsoil though. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn@swbell.not> wrote in message
news:3F2B3228.5080908@swbell.not... > Check some of the posts on the forum at www.bobistheoilguy.com > interesting reading > I'll be using Mobil 1 and a pl14459 filter on my new OBW, probably > change oil&filter twice a year or 7500mi whichever comes first.(based on > usage of previous vehicle, this may be about 6k average between changes.) > M1 is $18.88 at wal-Mart in 5 qt. Jugs From what I've read in the forums, Mobil1 TriSynthetic wasn't very good, which is what I was using. Also whatever they called it before that. But there SuperSyn is suppose to be a lot better. Now that really brings a high level of confidence to the table. I have 4 quarts of TriSyn left, and live in the Omaha, NE area if anyone wants it, just let me know. I'm more convinced than ever I won't be doing Mobil anything again. Just convinces me that I'm right not to be using Mobil1 anymore. Seems like a lot of people like Amsoil though. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:HUkXa.23919$Zb7.19751@news02.roc.ny,
Dave M. <gadget@frontiernet.net> jubilantly posted: > > Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but > I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm > being wasteful. > > Dave M. Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners Manual list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil services? -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:HUkXa.23919$Zb7.19751@news02.roc.ny,
Dave M. <gadget@frontiernet.net> jubilantly posted: > > Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but > I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm > being wasteful. > > Dave M. Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners Manual list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil services? -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
> > Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but
> > I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm > > being wasteful. > > > > Dave M. > > Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners Manual > list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil services? > -- > > ~~Philip It would likely be the same as Honda, which was posted earlier. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
> > Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but
> > I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm > > being wasteful. > > > > Dave M. > > Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners Manual > list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil services? > -- > > ~~Philip It would likely be the same as Honda, which was posted earlier. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In article <kKlXa.5754$jg7.3786@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote: > In news:HUkXa.23919$Zb7.19751@news02.roc.ny, > Dave M. <gadget@frontiernet.net> jubilantly posted: > > > > Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but > > I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm > > being wasteful. > > > > Dave M. > > Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners Manual > list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil services? > -- > > ~~Philip The manual recommends 5k for severe operating conditions. I also split the difference and change mine every 7,500 using Mobil 1. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In article <kKlXa.5754$jg7.3786@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote: > In news:HUkXa.23919$Zb7.19751@news02.roc.ny, > Dave M. <gadget@frontiernet.net> jubilantly posted: > > > > Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but > > I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm > > being wasteful. > > > > Dave M. > > Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners Manual > list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil services? > -- > > ~~Philip The manual recommends 5k for severe operating conditions. I also split the difference and change mine every 7,500 using Mobil 1. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:CEsXa.136836$R92.58881@news2.central.cox.net,
noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >>> Yikes! My Acura RSX-S also has a 10,000 mile recommendation, but >>> I'm changing the Mobil 1 and filter every 7,500 miles. Maybe I'm >>> being wasteful. >>> >>> Dave M. >> >> Curious, is 10k miles the only recommendation or does your Owners >> Manual list special operating conditions that warrant shorter oil >> services? -- >> >> ~~Philip > > It would likely be the same as Honda, which was posted earlier. Was the question directed to you? Is you name also "Dave M?" -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
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