.Philip.

jim beam wrote:
> philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
> but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
> flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>
> normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
> something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
> know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
> don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
> not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
> of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
> depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
> have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
> the rest of us.

Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized. I've
been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names. You have
no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
--

- Philip

.Philip.

jim beam wrote:
> philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
> but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
> flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>
> normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
> something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
> know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
> don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
> not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
> of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
> depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
> have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
> the rest of us.

Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized. I've
been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names. You have
no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
--

- Philip

jim beam

..Philip. wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>
>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>the rest of us.
>
>
> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.

wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.

> I've
> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.

and that's relevant because...

> You have
> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim

how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.

jim beam

..Philip. wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>
>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>the rest of us.
>
>
> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.

wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.

> I've
> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.

and that's relevant because...

> You have
> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim

how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.

.Philip.

jim beam wrote:
> .Philip. wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>> but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just
>>> keep flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>
>>> normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>> something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you
>>> don't know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now,
>>> i
>>> don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're
>>> certainly not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum
>>> because
>>> of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>> depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>> have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the
>>> well for the rest of us.
>>
>>
>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people
>> get put off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've
>> memorized.
>
> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>
>> I've
>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>
> and that's relevant because...
>
>> You have
>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ...
>> whatever that is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in
>> any thread, jim
>
> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.

"If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out" LOL
--

- Philip
Nuking Gay Whales for Jesus

.Philip.

jim beam wrote:
> .Philip. wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>> philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>> but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just
>>> keep flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>
>>> normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>> something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you
>>> don't know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now,
>>> i
>>> don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're
>>> certainly not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum
>>> because
>>> of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>> depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>> have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the
>>> well for the rest of us.
>>
>>
>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people
>> get put off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've
>> memorized.
>
> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>
>> I've
>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>
> and that's relevant because...
>
>> You have
>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ...
>> whatever that is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in
>> any thread, jim
>
> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.

"If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out" LOL
--

- Philip
Nuking Gay Whales for Jesus

Dave Kelsen

On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:

> .Philip. wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>
>>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>>the rest of us.
>>
>>
>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
>> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.
>
> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>
>> I've
>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>
> and that's relevant because...
>
>> You have
>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
>> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
>
> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.

Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
away is to ignore them. It doesn't always work, but nothing else *ever*
works.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... I am not aware that any community has the right to force another to
be civilized.

Dave Kelsen

On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:

> .Philip. wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>
>>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>
>>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>>the rest of us.
>>
>>
>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
>> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.
>
> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>
>> I've
>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>
> and that's relevant because...
>
>> You have
>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
>> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
>
> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.

Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
away is to ignore them. It doesn't always work, but nothing else *ever*
works.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... I am not aware that any community has the right to force another to
be civilized.

.Philip.

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> .Philip. wrote:
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>> philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>> but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just
>>>> keep flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>>
>>>> normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>> something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you
>>>> don't know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now,
>>>> i
>>>> don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're
>>>> certainly not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum
>>>> because of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your
>>>> knowledge
>>>> depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>> have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the
>>>> well for the rest of us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal
>>> people get put off by questions whose answers don't mirror what
>>> they've memorized.
>>
>> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>
>>> I've
>>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>>
>> and that's relevant because...
>>
>>> You have
>>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ...
>>> whatever that is. There is no requirement for you to be involved
>>> in any thread, jim
>>
>> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
>> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
>> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling
>> you, your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.
>
> Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
> away is to ignore them. It doesn't always work, but nothing else
> *ever* works.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen

A Google search of "Dave Kelsen troll" reveals Dave's penchant for labeling
as 'troll' anyone who shows him up. Happens a lot.

--

- Philip

.Philip.

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> .Philip. wrote:
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>> philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>> but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just
>>>> keep flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>>
>>>> normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>> something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you
>>>> don't know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now,
>>>> i
>>>> don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're
>>>> certainly not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum
>>>> because of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your
>>>> knowledge
>>>> depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>> have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the
>>>> well for the rest of us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal
>>> people get put off by questions whose answers don't mirror what
>>> they've memorized.
>>
>> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>
>>> I've
>>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>>
>> and that's relevant because...
>>
>>> You have
>>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ...
>>> whatever that is. There is no requirement for you to be involved
>>> in any thread, jim
>>
>> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
>> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
>> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling
>> you, your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.
>
> Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
> away is to ignore them. It doesn't always work, but nothing else
> *ever* works.
>
>
> RFT!!!
> Dave Kelsen

A Google search of "Dave Kelsen troll" reveals Dave's penchant for labeling
as 'troll' anyone who shows him up. Happens a lot.

--

- Philip

Gary L. Burnore

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:20:15 GMT, Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> .Philip. wrote:
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>>
>>>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>>>the rest of us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
>>> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.
>>
>> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>
>>> I've
>>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>>
>> and that's relevant because...
>>
>>> You have
>>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
>>> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
>>
>> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
>> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
>> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
>> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.
>
>Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
>away is to ignore them.


Wanting people to go away because they prove you're dead wrong doesn't
mean they're trolls, Dave.

Gary L. Burnore

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:20:15 GMT, Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> .Philip. wrote:
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>
>>>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>>
>>>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>>>the rest of us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
>>> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.
>>
>> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>
>>> I've
>>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>>
>> and that's relevant because...
>>
>>> You have
>>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
>>> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
>>
>> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
>> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
>> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
>> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.
>
>Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
>away is to ignore them.


Wanting people to go away because they prove you're dead wrong doesn't
mean they're trolls, Dave.

Dave Kelsen

On 12/28/2004 9:33 AM Gary L. Burnore spake these words of knowledge:

> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:20:15 GMT, Dave Kelsen
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>>> .Philip. wrote:
>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>>>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>>>
>>>>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>>>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>>>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>>>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>>>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>>>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>>>>the rest of us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
>>>> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.
>>>
>>> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>>
>>>> I've
>>>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>>>
>>> and that's relevant because...
>>>
>>>> You have
>>>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
>>>> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
>>>
>>> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
>>> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
>>> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
>>> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.
>>
>>Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
>>away is to ignore them.
>
>
> Wanting people to go away because they prove you're dead wrong doesn't
> mean they're trolls, Dave.

Agreed. How is that relevant to the discussion?

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would
indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment
and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein

Dave Kelsen

On 12/28/2004 9:33 AM Gary L. Burnore spake these words of knowledge:

> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:20:15 GMT, Dave Kelsen
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 12/28/2004 12:54 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>>> .Philip. wrote:
>>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>philip, i don't usually stick my nose into others' pissing matches,
>>>>>but i gotta tell ya, both huw & steve know their stuff. you just keep
>>>>>flinging poo at the fan for your own entertainment.
>>>>>
>>>>>normal people show up on these groups because they want to learn
>>>>>something. the price we pay for free knowledge on something you don't
>>>>>know is sharing knowledge on the stuff you /do/ know. right now, i
>>>>>don't see you contributing anything except entropy. you're certainly
>>>>>not contributing knowledge. if steve & huw leave this forum because
>>>>>of some dysfunctional need to pick fights outside of your knowledge
>>>>>depth, the rest of us lose, and i have a problem with that. if you
>>>>>have nothing useful to say, keep it zipped & stop poisoning the well for
>>>>>the rest of us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Normal people don't think outside the box very often. Normal people get put
>>>> off by questions whose answers don't mirror what they've memorized.
>>>
>>> wow, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
>>>
>>>> I've
>>>> been visiting this forum for nearly 3 yrs under a couple of names.
>>>
>>> and that's relevant because...
>>>
>>>> You have
>>>> no enforcement power beyond reflecting on your own problem ... whatever that
>>>> is. There is no requirement for you to be involved in any thread, jim
>>>
>>> how does no enforcement power reflect my own problem? i don't follow
>>> your logic [but i don't follow your thermodynamics either]. you're
>>> entitled to say what you want to whomever philip, but i'm telling you,
>>> your pissing match with huw & steve is wretched to behold.
>>
>>Jim, this is usenet 101; he's a troll. The best way to make them go
>>away is to ignore them.
>
>
> Wanting people to go away because they prove you're dead wrong doesn't
> mean they're trolls, Dave.

Agreed. How is that relevant to the discussion?

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would
indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment
and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein