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Wayne L 08-08-2007 08:38 PM

Rear wheel bearings
 
Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
every so often?

Wayne




Say What? 08-08-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?


That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?



Say What? 08-08-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?


That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?



Say What? 08-08-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?


That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?



Tegger 08-08-2007 08:53 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
"Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
@snip.allthenewsgroups.com:

> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?
>



No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings you
may be used to.

The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
is because they are largely shielded from road splash.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 08-08-2007 08:53 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
"Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
@snip.allthenewsgroups.com:

> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?
>



No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings you
may be used to.

The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
is because they are largely shielded from road splash.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 08-08-2007 08:53 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
"Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
@snip.allthenewsgroups.com:

> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?
>



No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings you
may be used to.

The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
is because they are largely shielded from road splash.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam 08-08-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?
>
> Wayne


how many more times are you going to post this question wayne? don't
like the answers you're getting?

jim beam 08-08-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?
>
> Wayne


how many more times are you going to post this question wayne? don't
like the answers you're getting?

jim beam 08-08-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
> every so often?
>
> Wayne


how many more times are you going to post this question wayne? don't
like the answers you're getting?

Wayne L 08-09-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?
>>
>> Wayne

>
> how many more times are you going to post this question wayne? don't like
> the answers you're getting?


Wow! Jim Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
people.

As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no responses.



Wayne L 08-09-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?
>>
>> Wayne

>
> how many more times are you going to post this question wayne? don't like
> the answers you're getting?


Wow! Jim Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
people.

As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no responses.



Wayne L 08-09-2007 10:31 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?
>>
>> Wayne

>
> how many more times are you going to post this question wayne? don't like
> the answers you're getting?


Wow! Jim Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
people.

As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no responses.



Wayne L 08-09-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?

>
> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>
>

Hi Say What?

Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for an
intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in 66
when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent push
rod.



Wayne L 08-09-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?

>
> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>
>

Hi Say What?

Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for an
intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in 66
when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent push
rod.



Wayne L 08-09-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?

>
> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>
>

Hi Say What?

Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for an
intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in 66
when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent push
rod.



Say What? 08-09-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Wayne L wrote:
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?

m Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
> people.
>
> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no responses.


The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug





Say What? 08-09-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Wayne L wrote:
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?

m Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
> people.
>
> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no responses.


The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug





Say What? 08-09-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Wayne L wrote:
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?

m Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
> people.
>
> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no responses.


The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug





jim beam 08-09-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
> news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Wayne L wrote:
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?

>> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>>
>>

> Hi Say What?
>
> Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
> repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
> repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for an
> intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in 66
> when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent push
> rod.
>
>


you /still/ don't need to touch honda bearings. maintenance is not a
recreational activity.

jim beam 08-09-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
> news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Wayne L wrote:
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?

>> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>>
>>

> Hi Say What?
>
> Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
> repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
> repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for an
> intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in 66
> when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent push
> rod.
>
>


you /still/ don't need to touch honda bearings. maintenance is not a
recreational activity.

jim beam 08-09-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
> news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> Wayne L wrote:
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?

>> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>>
>>

> Hi Say What?
>
> Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
> repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
> repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for an
> intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in 66
> when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent push
> rod.
>
>


you /still/ don't need to touch honda bearings. maintenance is not a
recreational activity.

jim beam 08-09-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Say What? wrote:
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> Wayne L wrote:
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?

> m Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
>> people.
>>
>> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no
>> responses.

>
> The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug



he just wants someone to tell him to go ahead and do it. we /could/
tell him they're sealed units and can't be disassembled, but that'll
take the fun out.

jim beam 08-09-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Say What? wrote:
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> Wayne L wrote:
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?

> m Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
>> people.
>>
>> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no
>> responses.

>
> The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug



he just wants someone to tell him to go ahead and do it. we /could/
tell him they're sealed units and can't be disassembled, but that'll
take the fun out.

jim beam 08-09-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Say What? wrote:
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:gKadnbTHsq9B4ifbnZ2dnUVZ_rninZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>> Wayne L wrote:
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?

> m Beam! I love your bourbon. It has a mellowing effect on most
>> people.
>>
>> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no
>> responses.

>
> The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug



he just wants someone to tell him to go ahead and do it. we /could/
tell him they're sealed units and can't be disassembled, but that'll
take the fun out.

Say What? 08-09-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
jim beam wrote:

>>> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no
>>> responses.

>>
>> The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug

>
>
> he just wants someone to tell him to go ahead and do it. we /could/
> tell him they're sealed units and can't be disassembled, but that'll
> take the fun out.


That would be nasty... and mean.

It's bad enough that you didn't tell him the short cut method. You
know, where you heat the bearing units up with either a MAPP gas torch
or gentle application of an oxy-acetylene torch to redistribute the
grease and get it back down around the bearings and shaft..





Say What? 08-09-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
jim beam wrote:

>>> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no
>>> responses.

>>
>> The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug

>
>
> he just wants someone to tell him to go ahead and do it. we /could/
> tell him they're sealed units and can't be disassembled, but that'll
> take the fun out.


That would be nasty... and mean.

It's bad enough that you didn't tell him the short cut method. You
know, where you heat the bearing units up with either a MAPP gas torch
or gentle application of an oxy-acetylene torch to redistribute the
grease and get it back down around the bearings and shaft..





Say What? 08-09-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
jim beam wrote:

>>> As you know, this is my 2nd post. My 30 Jul 07 post elicited no
>>> responses.

>>
>> The THIRD but who's counting? 30 Jul, 7 Aug, 8 Aug

>
>
> he just wants someone to tell him to go ahead and do it. we /could/
> tell him they're sealed units and can't be disassembled, but that'll
> take the fun out.


That would be nasty... and mean.

It's bad enough that you didn't tell him the short cut method. You
know, where you heat the bearing units up with either a MAPP gas torch
or gentle application of an oxy-acetylene torch to redistribute the
grease and get it back down around the bearings and shaft..





Wayne L 08-09-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?
>>

>
>
> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
> you
> may be used to.
>
> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or just
the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and re-grease
every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it looked
similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I have a half
a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they might be usable
on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a keyed flat washer it
had what looked like a sealing sheet metal disk.........I figured I'd better
get some info before starting the disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped
into my little brain that the Honda had about 61K on it and I had never
greased the rear axles. I've seen more than one car on the shoulder with a
broken rear axle, probably caused by a red hot bearing. My wife's 99 Grand
Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is the first car I've
owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the whole shop manual set,
because I usually kept them until they were ready for the junk yard. I've
had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade in. Then I'd tell them "no
trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50 and I'd say thankyou, saved me
the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But after spending countless Sunday's
under the car fixing things, and with Honda's being the most reliable cars
I've ever owned, and with just about the lowest recall numbers in the
business, I hope to trade this one in and get another in a year or two.
BTW, the manuals are up to about $200 for the complete set.

Thanks again Tegger
Wayne



Wayne L 08-09-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?
>>

>
>
> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
> you
> may be used to.
>
> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or just
the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and re-grease
every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it looked
similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I have a half
a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they might be usable
on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a keyed flat washer it
had what looked like a sealing sheet metal disk.........I figured I'd better
get some info before starting the disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped
into my little brain that the Honda had about 61K on it and I had never
greased the rear axles. I've seen more than one car on the shoulder with a
broken rear axle, probably caused by a red hot bearing. My wife's 99 Grand
Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is the first car I've
owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the whole shop manual set,
because I usually kept them until they were ready for the junk yard. I've
had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade in. Then I'd tell them "no
trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50 and I'd say thankyou, saved me
the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But after spending countless Sunday's
under the car fixing things, and with Honda's being the most reliable cars
I've ever owned, and with just about the lowest recall numbers in the
business, I hope to trade this one in and get another in a year or two.
BTW, the manuals are up to about $200 for the complete set.

Thanks again Tegger
Wayne



Wayne L 08-09-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>
>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>> every so often?
>>

>
>
> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
> you
> may be used to.
>
> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or just
the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and re-grease
every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it looked
similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I have a half
a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they might be usable
on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a keyed flat washer it
had what looked like a sealing sheet metal disk.........I figured I'd better
get some info before starting the disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped
into my little brain that the Honda had about 61K on it and I had never
greased the rear axles. I've seen more than one car on the shoulder with a
broken rear axle, probably caused by a red hot bearing. My wife's 99 Grand
Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is the first car I've
owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the whole shop manual set,
because I usually kept them until they were ready for the junk yard. I've
had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade in. Then I'd tell them "no
trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50 and I'd say thankyou, saved me
the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But after spending countless Sunday's
under the car fixing things, and with Honda's being the most reliable cars
I've ever owned, and with just about the lowest recall numbers in the
business, I hope to trade this one in and get another in a year or two.
BTW, the manuals are up to about $200 for the complete set.

Thanks again Tegger
Wayne



jim beam 08-09-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
>> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>>
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?
>>>

>>
>> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
>> you
>> may be used to.
>>
>> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
>> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
> Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
> the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or just
> the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and re-grease
> every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it looked
> similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I have a half
> a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they might be usable
> on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a keyed flat washer it
> had what looked like a sealing sheet metal disk.........I figured I'd better
> get some info before starting the disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped
> into my little brain that the Honda had about 61K on it and I had never
> greased the rear axles. I've seen more than one car on the shoulder with a
> broken rear axle, probably caused by a red hot bearing.


no dude, you've never seen a honda with a broken rear axle.

> My wife's 99 Grand
> Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is the first car I've
> owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the whole shop manual set,
> because I usually kept them until they were ready for the junk yard. I've
> had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade in. Then I'd tell them "no
> trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50 and I'd say thankyou, saved me
> the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But after spending countless Sunday's
> under the car fixing things,


recreational car maintenance.

> and with Honda's being the most reliable cars
> I've ever owned, and with just about the lowest recall numbers in the
> business, I hope to trade this one in and get another in a year or two.
> BTW, the manuals are up to about $200 for the complete set.
>
> Thanks again Tegger
> Wayne
>
>


jim beam 08-09-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
>> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>>
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?
>>>

>>
>> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
>> you
>> may be used to.
>>
>> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
>> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
> Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
> the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or just
> the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and re-grease
> every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it looked
> similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I have a half
> a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they might be usable
> on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a keyed flat washer it
> had what looked like a sealing sheet metal disk.........I figured I'd better
> get some info before starting the disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped
> into my little brain that the Honda had about 61K on it and I had never
> greased the rear axles. I've seen more than one car on the shoulder with a
> broken rear axle, probably caused by a red hot bearing.


no dude, you've never seen a honda with a broken rear axle.

> My wife's 99 Grand
> Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is the first car I've
> owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the whole shop manual set,
> because I usually kept them until they were ready for the junk yard. I've
> had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade in. Then I'd tell them "no
> trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50 and I'd say thankyou, saved me
> the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But after spending countless Sunday's
> under the car fixing things,


recreational car maintenance.

> and with Honda's being the most reliable cars
> I've ever owned, and with just about the lowest recall numbers in the
> business, I hope to trade this one in and get another in a year or two.
> BTW, the manuals are up to about $200 for the complete set.
>
> Thanks again Tegger
> Wayne
>
>


jim beam 08-09-2007 11:55 PM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 
Wayne L wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
>> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>>
>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and re-greased
>>> every so often?
>>>

>>
>> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
>> you
>> may be used to.
>>
>> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones. This
>> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>
> Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
> Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
> the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or just
> the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and re-grease
> every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it looked
> similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I have a half
> a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they might be usable
> on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a keyed flat washer it
> had what looked like a sealing sheet metal disk.........I figured I'd better
> get some info before starting the disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped
> into my little brain that the Honda had about 61K on it and I had never
> greased the rear axles. I've seen more than one car on the shoulder with a
> broken rear axle, probably caused by a red hot bearing.


no dude, you've never seen a honda with a broken rear axle.

> My wife's 99 Grand
> Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is the first car I've
> owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the whole shop manual set,
> because I usually kept them until they were ready for the junk yard. I've
> had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade in. Then I'd tell them "no
> trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50 and I'd say thankyou, saved me
> the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But after spending countless Sunday's
> under the car fixing things,


recreational car maintenance.

> and with Honda's being the most reliable cars
> I've ever owned, and with just about the lowest recall numbers in the
> business, I hope to trade this one in and get another in a year or two.
> BTW, the manuals are up to about $200 for the complete set.
>
> Thanks again Tegger
> Wayne
>
>


Wayne L 08-10-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:e-ydnew7nKCyTybbnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
>> news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Wayne L wrote:
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?
>>> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>>>
>>>

>> Hi Say What?
>>
>> Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
>> repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
>> repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for
>> an intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in
>> 66 when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent
>> push rod.

>
> you /still/ don't need to touch honda bearings. maintenance is not a
> recreational activity.


Got it. Thanks Jim.

Wayne



Wayne L 08-10-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:e-ydnew7nKCyTybbnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
>> news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Wayne L wrote:
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?
>>> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>>>
>>>

>> Hi Say What?
>>
>> Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
>> repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
>> repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for
>> an intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in
>> 66 when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent
>> push rod.

>
> you /still/ don't need to touch honda bearings. maintenance is not a
> recreational activity.


Got it. Thanks Jim.

Wayne



Wayne L 08-10-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:e-ydnew7nKCyTybbnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "Say What?" <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote in message
>> news:Rttui.1983$qa3.1089@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Wayne L wrote:
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?
>>> That depends. How many kids does your mechanic have in college?
>>>
>>>

>> Hi Say What?
>>
>> Actually I've been doing all of the maintenance and almost all of the
>> repairs on my cars these last 2 score and 4. The sum total of my paid
>> repairs are two rebuilt automatic transmissions, a trip to the dealer for
>> an intermittent sensor problem, which they failed to fix, and the time in
>> 66 when I screwed up my first fuel pump replacement, resulting in a bent
>> push rod.

>
> you /still/ don't need to touch honda bearings. maintenance is not a
> recreational activity.


Got it. Thanks Jim.

Wayne



Wayne L 08-10-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:nsCdnUS7ZJs6fCbbnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in
>>> news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
>>> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
>>> you
>>> may be used to.
>>>
>>> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones.
>>> This
>>> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tegger
>>>
>>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>>
>> Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
>> Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
>> the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or
>> just the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and
>> re-grease every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it
>> looked similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I
>> have a half a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they
>> might be usable on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a
>> keyed flat washer it had what looked like a sealing sheet metal
>> disk.........I figured I'd better get some info before starting the
>> disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped into my little brain that the
>> Honda had about 61K on it and I had never greased the rear axles. I've
>> seen more than one car on the shoulder with a broken rear axle, probably
>> caused by a red hot bearing.

>
> no dude, you've never seen a honda with a broken rear axle.


I'm sure you're right. Probably GM and Ford products, which is why I'll
never buy another one of those, except my wife insisted on the Pontiac
because a lady she worked with loved hers.......probably the color :-).
Actually I've been happily surprised about the Grand Prix. 60K, 8 years
old, no problems, no rust holes, paint still OK. First GM product out of 6
that did that! Of course it still rides and rattles loose as a goose.

>
>> My wife's 99 Grand Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is
>> the first car I've owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the
>> whole shop manual set, because I usually kept them until they were ready
>> for the junk yard. I've had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade
>> in. Then I'd tell them "no trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50
>> and I'd say thankyou, saved me the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But
>> after spending countless Sunday's under the car fixing things,

>
> recreational car maintenance.


I still do the oil changes, brakes, belts, etc., but I don't call pulling
heads, changing timing belts, changing computers, troubleshooing bad
sensors, replacing headliners, rebuilding jeep 5 speeds, replacing
distributors, replacing rear main seals, replacing marine outboard cranks
and driveshafts, replacing broken turn signal rings, replacing ignition
locks, doing valve adjustments, rebuilding carburators, rebuilding brake
calibers, replacing front wheel drive axles and bearings, replacing struts,
replacing clutches and throwout bearings, adjusting clutches, replacing
pilot bearings, dropping gas tanks, repairing car audio systems etc., etc.,
recreational, unless you define recreational as all work done by unpaid
non-professional mechanics. I assume you are an automotive technician?

>
>> and with Honda's being the most reliable cars I've ever owned, and with
>> just about the lowest recall numbers in the business, I hope to trade
>> this one in and get another in a year or two. BTW, the manuals are up to
>> about $200 for the complete set.
>>
>> Thanks again Tegger
>> Wayne




Wayne L 08-10-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:nsCdnUS7ZJs6fCbbnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in
>>> news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
>>> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
>>> you
>>> may be used to.
>>>
>>> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones.
>>> This
>>> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tegger
>>>
>>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>>
>> Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
>> Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
>> the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or
>> just the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and
>> re-grease every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it
>> looked similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I
>> have a half a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they
>> might be usable on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a
>> keyed flat washer it had what looked like a sealing sheet metal
>> disk.........I figured I'd better get some info before starting the
>> disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped into my little brain that the
>> Honda had about 61K on it and I had never greased the rear axles. I've
>> seen more than one car on the shoulder with a broken rear axle, probably
>> caused by a red hot bearing.

>
> no dude, you've never seen a honda with a broken rear axle.


I'm sure you're right. Probably GM and Ford products, which is why I'll
never buy another one of those, except my wife insisted on the Pontiac
because a lady she worked with loved hers.......probably the color :-).
Actually I've been happily surprised about the Grand Prix. 60K, 8 years
old, no problems, no rust holes, paint still OK. First GM product out of 6
that did that! Of course it still rides and rattles loose as a goose.

>
>> My wife's 99 Grand Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is
>> the first car I've owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the
>> whole shop manual set, because I usually kept them until they were ready
>> for the junk yard. I've had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade
>> in. Then I'd tell them "no trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50
>> and I'd say thankyou, saved me the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But
>> after spending countless Sunday's under the car fixing things,

>
> recreational car maintenance.


I still do the oil changes, brakes, belts, etc., but I don't call pulling
heads, changing timing belts, changing computers, troubleshooing bad
sensors, replacing headliners, rebuilding jeep 5 speeds, replacing
distributors, replacing rear main seals, replacing marine outboard cranks
and driveshafts, replacing broken turn signal rings, replacing ignition
locks, doing valve adjustments, rebuilding carburators, rebuilding brake
calibers, replacing front wheel drive axles and bearings, replacing struts,
replacing clutches and throwout bearings, adjusting clutches, replacing
pilot bearings, dropping gas tanks, repairing car audio systems etc., etc.,
recreational, unless you define recreational as all work done by unpaid
non-professional mechanics. I assume you are an automotive technician?

>
>> and with Honda's being the most reliable cars I've ever owned, and with
>> just about the lowest recall numbers in the business, I hope to trade
>> this one in and get another in a year or two. BTW, the manuals are up to
>> about $200 for the complete set.
>>
>> Thanks again Tegger
>> Wayne




Wayne L 08-10-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Rear wheel bearings
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:nsCdnUS7ZJs6fCbbnZ2dnUVZ_hjinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Wayne L wrote:
>> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9986D4270250Dtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> "Wayne L" <wlogsdon@snip.net> wrote in
>>> news:af84c$46ba7006$d1cc7c5a$19925
>>> @snip.allthenewsgroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Should the rear wheel bearings on a 2003 Accord be cleaned and
>>>> re-greased
>>>> every so often?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No. Sealed for life. These are not like the old tapered roller bearings
>>> you
>>> may be used to.
>>>
>>> The rear bearings tend to have far longer lives than the front ones.
>>> This
>>> is because they are largely shielded from road splash.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tegger
>>>
>>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

>>
>> Hi Tegger. Thanks for getting back to me. You're the best!
>> Yeah, every other car I've owned, except my wife's 99 Grand Prix, has had
>> the tapered roller bearings with the keyed flat washer, all around, or
>> just the back, and the rule of thumb I used was "clean them out and
>> re-grease every 35K. When I took the dust cap off of the 2003 Accord, it
>> looked similar to the 87 Accord I had...same disposable "peened" nut (I
>> have a half a dozen used ones in the tool box...figured in a pinch they
>> might be usable on the opposite side) but when I saw that instead of a
>> keyed flat washer it had what looked like a sealing sheet metal
>> disk.........I figured I'd better get some info before starting the
>> disassembly. A few weeks ago it popped into my little brain that the
>> Honda had about 61K on it and I had never greased the rear axles. I've
>> seen more than one car on the shoulder with a broken rear axle, probably
>> caused by a red hot bearing.

>
> no dude, you've never seen a honda with a broken rear axle.


I'm sure you're right. Probably GM and Ford products, which is why I'll
never buy another one of those, except my wife insisted on the Pontiac
because a lady she worked with loved hers.......probably the color :-).
Actually I've been happily surprised about the Grand Prix. 60K, 8 years
old, no problems, no rust holes, paint still OK. First GM product out of 6
that did that! Of course it still rides and rattles loose as a goose.

>
>> My wife's 99 Grand Prix has an obviously sealed rear axle unit. This is
>> the first car I've owned in a long while that I didn't spring for the
>> whole shop manual set, because I usually kept them until they were ready
>> for the junk yard. I've had dealers tell me they didn't want my trade
>> in. Then I'd tell them "no trade in, no sale", then they would offer $50
>> and I'd say thankyou, saved me the trouble of getting rid of it :-) But
>> after spending countless Sunday's under the car fixing things,

>
> recreational car maintenance.


I still do the oil changes, brakes, belts, etc., but I don't call pulling
heads, changing timing belts, changing computers, troubleshooing bad
sensors, replacing headliners, rebuilding jeep 5 speeds, replacing
distributors, replacing rear main seals, replacing marine outboard cranks
and driveshafts, replacing broken turn signal rings, replacing ignition
locks, doing valve adjustments, rebuilding carburators, rebuilding brake
calibers, replacing front wheel drive axles and bearings, replacing struts,
replacing clutches and throwout bearings, adjusting clutches, replacing
pilot bearings, dropping gas tanks, repairing car audio systems etc., etc.,
recreational, unless you define recreational as all work done by unpaid
non-professional mechanics. I assume you are an automotive technician?

>
>> and with Honda's being the most reliable cars I've ever owned, and with
>> just about the lowest recall numbers in the business, I hope to trade
>> this one in and get another in a year or two. BTW, the manuals are up to
>> about $200 for the complete set.
>>
>> Thanks again Tegger
>> Wayne





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