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Tegger 10-21-2009 07:28 PM

Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg

This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

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Tegger

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Brian Smith 10-21-2009 08:13 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Tegger wrote:
> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>
> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.


I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
waste through and through.


Joe 10-21-2009 08:41 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
On 2009-10-22, Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>
>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
>> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
>> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

>
> I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
> waste through and through.
>


I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
defrosters.


--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Dillon Pyron 10-21-2009 11:40 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Thus spake Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com> :

>On 2009-10-22, Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>>
>>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>>
>>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
>>> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
>>> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

>>
>> I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
>> waste through and through.
>>

>
>I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
>When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
>quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
>defrosters.


Due to the aerodynamics, rear wipers are more "essential" on vehicles
with close to vertical rear windows. My wife's Camary doesn't collect
nearly as much spray as my Fit.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
-- Lazurus Long

Joe 10-22-2009 12:34 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
On 2009-10-22, Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Thus spake Joe <joe@spam.hits-spam-buffalo.com> :
>
>>On 2009-10-22, Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>>>
>>>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
>>>> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
>>>> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.
>>>
>>> I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
>>> waste through and through.
>>>

>>
>>I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
>>When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
>>quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
>>defrosters.

>
> Due to the aerodynamics, rear wipers are more "essential" on vehicles
> with close to vertical rear windows. My wife's Camary doesn't collect
> nearly as much spray as my Fit.


Absolutely. The 06 Civic's rear window is heavily slanted, and
collects nothing while moving, but the minivans collected loads of
snow, especially during a light snowfall...

--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Brian Smith 10-22-2009 04:57 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Joe wrote:
>
> I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
> When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
> quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
> defrosters.


A rear window isn't even a necessity, that why we have outside mirrors.

E. Meyer 10-22-2009 09:54 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
On 10/21/09 6:28 PM, in article Xns9CABC5FC03486tegger@208.90.168.18,
"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>
> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where I
> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.


Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the Skyline
in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a twin turbine V6
& costs about $85k US.


thomas 10-22-2009 01:24 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:hbo83m$32g$2@news.datemas.de...
> Tegger wrote:
>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>
>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where
>> I work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
>> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

>
> I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
> waste through and through.


Blimey - don't you drive ?



Clete 10-22-2009 01:44 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:24:53 +0100, "thomas"
<toooommygin@retardedloony.com> wrote:

>
>"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
>news:hbo83m$32g$2@news.datemas.de...
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>>
>>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>>
>>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where
>>> I work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
>>> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

>>
>> I have never seen the need for a rear wiper on any vehicle. They are a
>> waste through and through.

>
>Blimey - don't you drive ?
>



You must ignore his ramblings.

Tegger 10-22-2009 07:47 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
news:C705CE5C.13342%epmeyer50@gmail.com:

> On 10/21/09 6:28 PM, in article Xns9CABC5FC03486tegger@208.90.168.18,
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>
>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>
>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from
>> where I work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I
>> always wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

>
> Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the
> Skyline in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a
> twin turbine V6 & costs about $85k US.
>



I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.

--
Tegger

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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Brian Smith 10-22-2009 07:53 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
thomas wrote:
>
> Blimey - don't you drive ?


I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the years.
Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of what is going
on around any vehicle.

Joe 10-22-2009 09:46 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
On 2009-10-22, Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> thomas wrote:
>>
>> Blimey - don't you drive ?

>
> I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
> look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the years.
> Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of what is going
> on around any vehicle.


Please, do not drive near me.

--
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
"Hate is baggage, life is too short to go around pissed off all the
time..." - Danny, American History X

Brian Smith 10-23-2009 04:46 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Joe wrote:
>
> Please, do not drive near me.


Why are you dangerous?


Tegger 10-23-2009 06:29 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in news:hbrqe0$oo$1
@news.datemas.de:

> Joe wrote:
>>
>> Please, do not drive near me.

>
> Why are you dangerous?
>
>



HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.

And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
you've got them aimed wrongly.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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E. Meyer 10-23-2009 08:25 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 



On 10/22/09 6:47 PM, in article Xns9CACC938479B2tegger@208.90.168.18,
"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:C705CE5C.13342%epmeyer50@gmail.com:
>
>> On 10/21/09 6:28 PM, in article Xns9CABC5FC03486tegger@208.90.168.18,
>> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>
>>> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>>>
>>> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>>>
>>> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from
>>> where I work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I
>>> always wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.

>>
>> Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the
>> Skyline in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a
>> twin turbine V6 & costs about $85k US.
>>

>
>
> I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.


The one I've seen in a Nissan dealership was fenced off with velvet rope so
that it could not be approached or, God forbid, touched by prospective
customers. I'm kinda surprised Nissan didn't market it as an Infiniti in
the US. They, at least, wouldn't be afraid of customers actually touching
the car.


Grumpy AuContraire 10-23-2009 03:28 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Brian Smith wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>>
>> Please, do not drive near me.

>
> Why are you dangerous?
>



Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.

I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.

JT

Bob Jones 10-23-2009 07:45 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 

"Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
> Brian Smith wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>>>
>>> Please, do not drive near me.

>>
>> Why are you dangerous?
>>

>
>
> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror is
> to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end you. In
> either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
>
> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
> information.
>
> JT


I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.



Tegger 10-23-2009 07:56 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
"E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
news:C7070ACD.13399%epmeyer50@gmail.com:

>
>
>
> On 10/22/09 6:47 PM, in article Xns9CACC938479B2tegger@208.90.168.18,
> "Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>> "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:C705CE5C.13342%epmeyer50@gmail.com:
>>


>>>
>>> Don't know about the rear wiper, but Nissan is finally selling the
>>> Skyline in the US. Its called the GT-R, has 480 horsepower out of a
>>> twin turbine V6 & costs about $85k US.
>>>

>>
>>
>> I think it's pretty safe to say the GT-R will be a "niche" vehicle.

>
> The one I've seen in a Nissan dealership was fenced off with velvet
> rope so that it could not be approached or, God forbid, touched by
> prospective customers. I'm kinda surprised Nissan didn't market it as
> an Infiniti in the US. They, at least, wouldn't be afraid of
> customers actually touching the car.
>




The velvet rope might have been an image thing, I guess. Makes the car seem
that much more desirable. Forbidden fruit, y'know.


--
Tegger

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Tegger 10-23-2009 07:59 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in
news:005e1388$0$13119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>>
>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>

>>
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>> about it.
>>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>>
>> JT

>
> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
>
>
>



You must not live in an area where the rear window gets dew or rain on it.

When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the rear
view the Integra's rear wiper gives.


--
Tegger

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Brian Smith 10-23-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Tegger wrote:
>
> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.


That is a falsehood.

> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.


There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.


Brian Smith 10-23-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Tegger wrote:
>
> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.


That is a falsehood.

> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
> you've got them aimed wrongly.


There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side mirrors
aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view everything
from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have been driving
heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear view mirror (or
window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or smaller vehicles.


Brian Smith 10-23-2009 08:40 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror
> is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end
> you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.


In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will show you
the vehicle approaching yours.

> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent information.


They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view behind
and to both sides of his vehicle.

Stewart 10-23-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:hbqr6f$dlb$1@news.datemas.de...
> thomas wrote:
>>
>> Blimey - don't you drive ?

>
> I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
> look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the
> years. Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of
> what is going on around any vehicle.


I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.



Tegger 10-23-2009 09:16 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:hbti52$361$1@news.datemas.de:

> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> HE's not dangerous, he's implying that YOU are.

>
> That is a falsehood.




You said:
"Why are you dangerous?"
As posted, your question requested him to explain his dangerousness.
Nothing in the thread said anything about his behavior one way or the
other.

If you had instead punctuated your sentence this way:
"Why? Are you dangerous?"
that would have made more sense in the context of the thread.


>
>> And if you're using your side-view mirrors as rear-view mirrors, then
>> you've got them aimed wrongly.

>
> There is nothing incorrect in the way in which I have my side
> mirrors aimed. It only takes a bit of movement of my head to view
> everything from curb to curb and to the rear in my mirrors. I have
> been driving heavy trucks for decades and not one of them had a rear
> view mirror (or window), no issues in any regards in those vehicles or
> smaller vehicles.
>



A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.

Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
mirror.
Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
aiming I found using Google:
<http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 10-23-2009 09:36 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:hbti9c$j9$2@news.datemas.de:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>> about it.

>
> In both of those scenarios you mention, the side mirrors will
> show you the vehicle approaching yours.
>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.

>
> They (when adjusted properly) give the driver 100% of the view
> behind and to both sides of his vehicle.




Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.

For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
the surrounding traffic.

I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Brian Smith 10-24-2009 07:25 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Tegger wrote:
>
> A heavy truck is not the same as a passenger car. A heavy truck's
> mirrors are much larger, for one thing, and for another it's impossible
> to provide a rear window in a 53' trailer (or in a sleeper-cab tractor).
> Plus trucks cannot perform the sort of sudden maneuvers that cars can.


Trucks sometimes have to perform sudden maneuvers to avoid the idiots
that don't know how to operate their cars safely.

> Passenger-car side mirrors are meant to be aimed into the side blind-spots
> not covered by your forward peripheral vision or by the rear-view
> mirror.
> Here's a pretty good explanation of passenger-car side-view-mirror
> aiming I found using Google:
> <http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/>


Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.

Brian Smith 10-24-2009 07:29 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Tegger wrote:
>
> Passenger-car side mirrors are /far/ too small to provide a proper all-over
> view. Heavy-truck side-view mirrows are much larger.


I disagree on the first part of this paragraph and agree with the
second portion.

> For work I frequently travel with sufficient cargo as to be unable to see
> out the rear window of my Integra. My right-side mirror is -- trust me on
> this -- wholly inadequate for anything close to complete comprehension of
> the surrounding traffic.


If you adjust your right side mirror properly, you will see that you
are able to see properly.

> I find myself changing lanes on the highway a bit the way a transport
> driver does: Signal first, then wait a bit so I'm pretty sure everybody
> sees it. As the signal flashes, I bob and weave about in my seat, studying
> in detail the view out my tiny right-side mirror. Nobody apparently there?
> Signal still on, I /slowly/ begin my lane change, waiting for a horn honk.
> No horn honk? Then it's probably safe. I continue moving over. I've been
> pretty careful over the last 18 years; only one horn-honk.


What you have described here is the proper (and legal) way to initiate
and safely complete a lane change. Congratulations, you are one a very
few drivers on the road that know how to do that one maneuver.

Brian Smith 10-24-2009 07:31 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Stewart wrote:
>
> I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.


I did say "have never had", I can't see a need in the future to look at
the rear window either.


Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-24-2009 11:53 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
In article <hbqr6f$dlb$1@news.datemas.de>,
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> thomas wrote:
> >
> > Blimey - don't you drive ?

>
> I've been driving for almost forty years. I have never had a need to
> look out the rear window of any vehicle I have driven over the years.
> Side mirrors are far more accurate to use to keep track of what is going
> on around any vehicle.


Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
happening directly behind you?

If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.

Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.

If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.

All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.

So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.

But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?

That's ing insane.

Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-24-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
In article <hbuo34$9u9$1@news.datemas.de>,
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> Side mirrors are the way to go when keeping track of what is going on
> around your vehicle. That's the bottom line and people should be open to
> learning more from the other's personal experience gained over the years.


You are clearly trolling with this.

tww1491 10-24-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 

"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9CABC5FC03486tegger@208.90.168.18...
> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>
> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where
> I
> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


Often wondered too. When I was stationed in Japan in 1967-69, the Skyline
2000 was a great sports sedan with a 2.0 liter SOHC I6 with a 5 speed. The
versions I recall came with the dual Solex copy of the Weber carb with a
dual exhaust. They ran like stink and handled. The car was originally made
by the Prince Motor Car Co which was bought out by Datsun (Nissan). I used
to autocross against them with a modified Sunbean Tiger in Tokyo Sports Car
Club. I have a picture somewhere of the Skyline back then with the hood
open.



Brian Smith 10-24-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> You are clearly trolling with this.


Not in the least, this practice has been proven over the years.

Brian Smith 10-24-2009 12:23 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
> happening directly behind you?


That is correct. There is no need to look out the rear window, if one
keeps their eyes moving taking in what is going on around their vehicle.
I've been doing it for forty years now and no incidents for well over
two and a half million miles.

> If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.


No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)

> Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
> have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.
>
> If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
> Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
> rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
> see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
> up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.
>
> All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.
>
> So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
> eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.
>
> But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?


But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
attention.

> That's ing insane.


Untrue.

Elmo P. Shagnasty 10-24-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
In article <hbv9im$v8k$1@news.datemas.de>,
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> > If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.

>
> No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
> before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)


I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such a
test.


> > But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> > mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> > there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?

>
> But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
> their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
> attention.


ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
set.

There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind you,
they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside you in
your blind spot.

But you know that, because you're just trolling.

Stewart 10-24-2009 04:51 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:hbuodr$9u9$3@news.datemas.de...
> Stewart wrote:
>>
>> I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.

>
> I did say "have never had", I can't see a need in the future to look
> at the rear window either.


Might as well do away with it.
>




Brian Smith 10-24-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Stewart wrote:
>
> Might as well do away with it.


In the past I have taken the inside mirror out of the vehicle. Now I
use it to mount the E-Pass on it and because it has a thermometer in it.

News 10-24-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Brian Smith wrote:
> Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Might as well do away with it.

>
> In the past I have taken the inside mirror out of the vehicle. Now I
> use it to mount the E-Pass on it and because it has a thermometer in it.



Ideal location for a 'Wink' or panoramic mirror.

Jim Yanik 10-24-2009 06:20 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-ACE985.15082624102009@news.eternal-september.org:

> In article <hbv9im$v8k$1@news.datemas.de>,
> Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>
>> > If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.

>>
>> No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming
>> long
>> before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)

>
> I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
> you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
> I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such
> a test.
>
>
>> > But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
>> > mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening
>> > back there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?

>>
>> But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep
>> checking
>> their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
>> attention.

>
> ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
> behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
> set.
>
> There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
> behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind
> you, they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside
> you in your blind spot.
>
> But you know that, because you're just trolling.
>


outside mirrors have a limited view compared to the inside rearview mirror.
Neglecting to use that wider view is unwise,and IMO,criminal.

The right side is even one of those convex mirrors that shrink the image
and distort the apparent distance.Anything farther than a few car lengths
makes other vehicles virtually invisible.Outside mirrors are strictly for
nearby vehicles.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Brian Smith 10-24-2009 06:23 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
> you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
> I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such a
> test.


You're wrong on both counts, but whatever makes you happy. :^)

> ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
> behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
> set.


My rear windows are tinted deep black, so the inside mirror is a moot
point. The side mirrors are adjusted properly to allow full view of
what's going on around the vehicle.

> There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
> behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind you,
> they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside you in
> your blind spot.


It's sad that you aren't able to grasp the reality of what I am telling
is the truth.

> But you know that, because you're just trolling.


Again you're incorrect. Don't worry about it, it works for me and it
has for years and will continue to do so for years to come.

Grumpy AuContraire 10-24-2009 10:43 PM

Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
 
Bob Jones wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>

>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror is
>> to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end you. In
>> either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
>>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>>
>> JT

>
> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.



My ancient automatic Civic has a rear wiper/washer that actually still
works but it's just something else that will break. I could well do
without either.

JT


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