reccomended maintence schedule
 

Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
illegal for a company to claim this?

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

<rpms0605@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20070110222004732-0500@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

The intervals for changing these items depends on many factors. Like length
of trips (did fluids get up to operating temperature) as an example. Will
be different for everybody. I typically drive over 70 miles per trip. My
intervals will be longer (mileage wise) between changes compared to a
grocery getter that only goes 2 miles per trip and never gets up to
operating temperature.

Whose interval do you want to follow? Mine or the grocery getter? Or one
that actually fits your useage?

> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

It's only an illegal claim if it isn't true. The tranny fluid for example
has been proven time and again that using non-Honda fluid for any length of
time causes issues and it takes 3 drain/refill/drive sequences to completely
flush the system of the non-Honda fluids.

So what about the statement is illegal?

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

<rpms0605@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20070110222004732-0500@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

The intervals for changing these items depends on many factors. Like length
of trips (did fluids get up to operating temperature) as an example. Will
be different for everybody. I typically drive over 70 miles per trip. My
intervals will be longer (mileage wise) between changes compared to a
grocery getter that only goes 2 miles per trip and never gets up to
operating temperature.

Whose interval do you want to follow? Mine or the grocery getter? Or one
that actually fits your useage?

> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

It's only an illegal claim if it isn't true. The tranny fluid for example
has been proven time and again that using non-Honda fluid for any length of
time causes issues and it takes 3 drain/refill/drive sequences to completely
flush the system of the non-Honda fluids.

So what about the statement is illegal?

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

<rpms0605@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20070110222004732-0500@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

The intervals for changing these items depends on many factors. Like length
of trips (did fluids get up to operating temperature) as an example. Will
be different for everybody. I typically drive over 70 miles per trip. My
intervals will be longer (mileage wise) between changes compared to a
grocery getter that only goes 2 miles per trip and never gets up to
operating temperature.

Whose interval do you want to follow? Mine or the grocery getter? Or one
that actually fits your useage?

> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

It's only an illegal claim if it isn't true. The tranny fluid for example
has been proven time and again that using non-Honda fluid for any length of
time causes issues and it takes 3 drain/refill/drive sequences to completely
flush the system of the non-Honda fluids.

So what about the statement is illegal?

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

<rpms0605@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20070110222004732-0500@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

The intervals for changing these items depends on many factors. Like length
of trips (did fluids get up to operating temperature) as an example. Will
be different for everybody. I typically drive over 70 miles per trip. My
intervals will be longer (mileage wise) between changes compared to a
grocery getter that only goes 2 miles per trip and never gets up to
operating temperature.

Whose interval do you want to follow? Mine or the grocery getter? Or one
that actually fits your useage?

> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

It's only an illegal claim if it isn't true. The tranny fluid for example
has been proven time and again that using non-Honda fluid for any length of
time causes issues and it takes 3 drain/refill/drive sequences to completely
flush the system of the non-Honda fluids.

So what about the statement is illegal?

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

rpms0605@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

yes. do what it says in the owner manual. in your case, as explained
by seth, use the highly expensive, sophisticated and thoroughly
researched tool honda provide - the maint minder.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

read the fine print - it's carefully worded and not illegal.

in the case of power steering fluid and auto trans fluid, using anything
other than honda fluids will cause you huge headaches since they /are/
proprietary blends. for coolant and brake fluid, use of the correct
grade alternative is ok, but using an incorrect grade will cause problems.

using honda fluids has a guaranteed outcome - satisfaction and
reliability. your call.

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

rpms0605@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

yes. do what it says in the owner manual. in your case, as explained
by seth, use the highly expensive, sophisticated and thoroughly
researched tool honda provide - the maint minder.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

read the fine print - it's carefully worded and not illegal.

in the case of power steering fluid and auto trans fluid, using anything
other than honda fluids will cause you huge headaches since they /are/
proprietary blends. for coolant and brake fluid, use of the correct
grade alternative is ok, but using an incorrect grade will cause problems.

using honda fluids has a guaranteed outcome - satisfaction and
reliability. your call.

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

rpms0605@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

yes. do what it says in the owner manual. in your case, as explained
by seth, use the highly expensive, sophisticated and thoroughly
researched tool honda provide - the maint minder.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

read the fine print - it's carefully worded and not illegal.

in the case of power steering fluid and auto trans fluid, using anything
other than honda fluids will cause you huge headaches since they /are/
proprietary blends. for coolant and brake fluid, use of the correct
grade alternative is ok, but using an incorrect grade will cause problems.

using honda fluids has a guaranteed outcome - satisfaction and
reliability. your call.

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

rpms0605@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

yes. do what it says in the owner manual. in your case, as explained
by seth, use the highly expensive, sophisticated and thoroughly
researched tool honda provide - the maint minder.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

read the fine print - it's carefully worded and not illegal.

in the case of power steering fluid and auto trans fluid, using anything
other than honda fluids will cause you huge headaches since they /are/
proprietary blends. for coolant and brake fluid, use of the correct
grade alternative is ok, but using an incorrect grade will cause problems.

using honda fluids has a guaranteed outcome - satisfaction and
reliability. your call.

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:20:05 -0600, rpms0605 wrote:

> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

They do not have recommendations for much of the stuff. The Maintenance
minder is the new way. It is a better way. Rather than applying an
overly-simplistic rule to everyone, the car actually monitors your usage
and how you drive, and makes the recommendations from there.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

No, not illegal at all. The use of many aftermarket fluids has been
shown, over the years, to be very detrimental to your Honda. There IS
something special about Honda fluids. They are designed for your car, and
your car designed for them.

The only fluids that I would ever recommend using, that are not from
Honda, are oil and windshield washer...

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:20:05 -0600, rpms0605 wrote:

> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

They do not have recommendations for much of the stuff. The Maintenance
minder is the new way. It is a better way. Rather than applying an
overly-simplistic rule to everyone, the car actually monitors your usage
and how you drive, and makes the recommendations from there.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

No, not illegal at all. The use of many aftermarket fluids has been
shown, over the years, to be very detrimental to your Honda. There IS
something special about Honda fluids. They are designed for your car, and
your car designed for them.

The only fluids that I would ever recommend using, that are not from
Honda, are oil and windshield washer...

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:20:05 -0600, rpms0605 wrote:

> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

They do not have recommendations for much of the stuff. The Maintenance
minder is the new way. It is a better way. Rather than applying an
overly-simplistic rule to everyone, the car actually monitors your usage
and how you drive, and makes the recommendations from there.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

No, not illegal at all. The use of many aftermarket fluids has been
shown, over the years, to be very detrimental to your Honda. There IS
something special about Honda fluids. They are designed for your car, and
your car designed for them.

The only fluids that I would ever recommend using, that are not from
Honda, are oil and windshield washer...

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:20:05 -0600, rpms0605 wrote:

> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

They do not have recommendations for much of the stuff. The Maintenance
minder is the new way. It is a better way. Rather than applying an
overly-simplistic rule to everyone, the car actually monitors your usage
and how you drive, and makes the recommendations from there.

>
> Also, what's up with the owner's manual saying you can only use non-
> Honda fluids (such as tranny fluid, coolant, brake fluid) on a temporary
> basis. is there something special about Honda brake fluid? Isn't it
> illegal for a company to claim this?

No, not illegal at all. The use of many aftermarket fluids has been
shown, over the years, to be very detrimental to your Honda. There IS
something special about Honda fluids. They are designed for your car, and
your car designed for them.

The only fluids that I would ever recommend using, that are not from
Honda, are oil and windshield washer...

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

In article <20070110222004732-0500@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
rpms0605@yahoo.com wrote:

> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

They don't. They recommend it based on YOUR driving habits--which are
monitored by the computer.

When the computer wasn't available to monitor things like this, all they
had was mileage. Now they can do it better.

Re: reccomended maintence schedule
 

In article <20070110222004732-0500@news1.news.adelphia.net>,
rpms0605@yahoo.com wrote:

> Just bought a 2007 Civic. Real nice car but I don't particularly care
> for the Maintenance Minder feature. I prefer to know what mileagae they
> reccomend such repairs as flushing the transmission fluid or changing
> out the radiotor coolant or changing the air filter. Does anyone know
> what these mileage reccomendations are on a Honda?

They don't. They recommend it based on YOUR driving habits--which are
monitored by the computer.

When the computer wasn't available to monitor things like this, all they
had was mileage. Now they can do it better.