Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
#31
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
Trident wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> Trust me. Your timing belt has fabric in it.
>
> I believe you. I'm just a curious guy. I like to see exactly how things
> work in an attempt to educate myself.
>
> Wishful thinking, perhaps.
>
>
not at all. possibly the greatest thing you can do if that's your
desire is go to a junk yard. there' you'll see all kinds of componentry
disassembled so you can see pretty much exactly how it all works. i
think they're amazing places.
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> Trust me. Your timing belt has fabric in it.
>
> I believe you. I'm just a curious guy. I like to see exactly how things
> work in an attempt to educate myself.
>
> Wishful thinking, perhaps.
>
>
not at all. possibly the greatest thing you can do if that's your
desire is go to a junk yard. there' you'll see all kinds of componentry
disassembled so you can see pretty much exactly how it all works. i
think they're amazing places.
#32
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
Trident wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> It's not "all rubber". It has a fabric carcass that extends even
>> into the
> teeth. The carcass provides the belt with all its strength.
>
> So is the fabric in the core of the timing belt surrounded by the
> rubber so that it cannot be seen? I still have the old timing belt,
> and when I inspect it carefully I cannot see fabric anywhere. I can
> see how the fabric would provide added strength. Maybe I'll disect
> it and see exactly how the fabric works.
>
> Thanks.
The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I believe the
fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
and minimal elongation properties.
Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> It's not "all rubber". It has a fabric carcass that extends even
>> into the
> teeth. The carcass provides the belt with all its strength.
>
> So is the fabric in the core of the timing belt surrounded by the
> rubber so that it cannot be seen? I still have the old timing belt,
> and when I inspect it carefully I cannot see fabric anywhere. I can
> see how the fabric would provide added strength. Maybe I'll disect
> it and see exactly how the fabric works.
>
> Thanks.
The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I believe the
fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
and minimal elongation properties.
Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
#33
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
Trident wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> It's not "all rubber". It has a fabric carcass that extends even
>> into the
> teeth. The carcass provides the belt with all its strength.
>
> So is the fabric in the core of the timing belt surrounded by the
> rubber so that it cannot be seen? I still have the old timing belt,
> and when I inspect it carefully I cannot see fabric anywhere. I can
> see how the fabric would provide added strength. Maybe I'll disect
> it and see exactly how the fabric works.
>
> Thanks.
The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I believe the
fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
and minimal elongation properties.
Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> It's not "all rubber". It has a fabric carcass that extends even
>> into the
> teeth. The carcass provides the belt with all its strength.
>
> So is the fabric in the core of the timing belt surrounded by the
> rubber so that it cannot be seen? I still have the old timing belt,
> and when I inspect it carefully I cannot see fabric anywhere. I can
> see how the fabric would provide added strength. Maybe I'll disect
> it and see exactly how the fabric works.
>
> Thanks.
The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I believe the
fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
and minimal elongation properties.
Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
#34
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
Trident wrote:
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> It's not "all rubber". It has a fabric carcass that extends even
>> into the
> teeth. The carcass provides the belt with all its strength.
>
> So is the fabric in the core of the timing belt surrounded by the
> rubber so that it cannot be seen? I still have the old timing belt,
> and when I inspect it carefully I cannot see fabric anywhere. I can
> see how the fabric would provide added strength. Maybe I'll disect
> it and see exactly how the fabric works.
>
> Thanks.
The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I believe the
fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
and minimal elongation properties.
Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> It's not "all rubber". It has a fabric carcass that extends even
>> into the
> teeth. The carcass provides the belt with all its strength.
>
> So is the fabric in the core of the timing belt surrounded by the
> rubber so that it cannot be seen? I still have the old timing belt,
> and when I inspect it carefully I cannot see fabric anywhere. I can
> see how the fabric would provide added strength. Maybe I'll disect
> it and see exactly how the fabric works.
>
> Thanks.
The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I believe the
fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
and minimal elongation properties.
Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
L Alpert wrote:
> The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I
believe the
> fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
> and minimal elongation properties.
>
> Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
> elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
> a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
==========================
It's just like 'strapping tape' that has woven fibreglass in it. Unlike
shipping tape you use for packing boxes, which can stretch or break,
strapping tape will hold a TON of load before breaking. You can _clearly
see_ the fibers in the side view of the timing belt.
The usual area of failure on a TB is when the teeth shear off because
the fibreglass threads have finally lost their strength.
'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler
has seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's
leakage problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
'Curly'
> The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I
believe the
> fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
> and minimal elongation properties.
>
> Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
> elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
> a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
==========================
It's just like 'strapping tape' that has woven fibreglass in it. Unlike
shipping tape you use for packing boxes, which can stretch or break,
strapping tape will hold a TON of load before breaking. You can _clearly
see_ the fibers in the side view of the timing belt.
The usual area of failure on a TB is when the teeth shear off because
the fibreglass threads have finally lost their strength.
'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler
has seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's
leakage problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
'Curly'
#36
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
L Alpert wrote:
> The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I
believe the
> fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
> and minimal elongation properties.
>
> Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
> elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
> a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
==========================
It's just like 'strapping tape' that has woven fibreglass in it. Unlike
shipping tape you use for packing boxes, which can stretch or break,
strapping tape will hold a TON of load before breaking. You can _clearly
see_ the fibers in the side view of the timing belt.
The usual area of failure on a TB is when the teeth shear off because
the fibreglass threads have finally lost their strength.
'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler
has seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's
leakage problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
'Curly'
> The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I
believe the
> fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
> and minimal elongation properties.
>
> Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
> elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
> a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
==========================
It's just like 'strapping tape' that has woven fibreglass in it. Unlike
shipping tape you use for packing boxes, which can stretch or break,
strapping tape will hold a TON of load before breaking. You can _clearly
see_ the fibers in the side view of the timing belt.
The usual area of failure on a TB is when the teeth shear off because
the fibreglass threads have finally lost their strength.
'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler
has seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's
leakage problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
'Curly'
#37
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
L Alpert wrote:
> The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I
believe the
> fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
> and minimal elongation properties.
>
> Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
> elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
> a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
==========================
It's just like 'strapping tape' that has woven fibreglass in it. Unlike
shipping tape you use for packing boxes, which can stretch or break,
strapping tape will hold a TON of load before breaking. You can _clearly
see_ the fibers in the side view of the timing belt.
The usual area of failure on a TB is when the teeth shear off because
the fibreglass threads have finally lost their strength.
'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler
has seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's
leakage problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
'Curly'
> The fabric helps to minimize elongation of the belt while, as I
believe the
> fabric is actually highly drawn fibers or monofilaments with high tensile
> and minimal elongation properties.
>
> Embedding these in the belt cross section adds strength and minimizes the
> elongation while not affecting the "suppleness" (it's ability to bend around
> a specific radius without buckling or bulging).
==========================
It's just like 'strapping tape' that has woven fibreglass in it. Unlike
shipping tape you use for packing boxes, which can stretch or break,
strapping tape will hold a TON of load before breaking. You can _clearly
see_ the fibers in the side view of the timing belt.
The usual area of failure on a TB is when the teeth shear off because
the fibreglass threads have finally lost their strength.
'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler
has seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's
leakage problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
'Curly'
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
"motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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>
> 'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler has
> seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's leakage
> problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
>
> 'Curly'
>
Or if you suspect a thief may have taken it and replaced it with a belt made
of Band-Aids with cartoon characters on them. Otherwise, I agree - a timing
belt about to fail looks like one with a few miles on it.
Mike
news:137q90fr7apsm0b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> 'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler has
> seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's leakage
> problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
>
> 'Curly'
>
Or if you suspect a thief may have taken it and replaced it with a belt made
of Band-Aids with cartoon characters on them. Otherwise, I agree - a timing
belt about to fail looks like one with a few miles on it.
Mike
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
"motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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>
> 'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler has
> seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's leakage
> problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
>
> 'Curly'
>
Or if you suspect a thief may have taken it and replaced it with a belt made
of Band-Aids with cartoon characters on them. Otherwise, I agree - a timing
belt about to fail looks like one with a few miles on it.
Mike
news:137q90fr7apsm0b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> 'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler has
> seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's leakage
> problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
>
> 'Curly'
>
Or if you suspect a thief may have taken it and replaced it with a belt made
of Band-Aids with cartoon characters on them. Otherwise, I agree - a timing
belt about to fail looks like one with a few miles on it.
Mike
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Re: Replaced Timing Belt but . . .
"motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:137q90fr7apsm0b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> 'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler has
> seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's leakage
> problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
>
> 'Curly'
>
Or if you suspect a thief may have taken it and replaced it with a belt made
of Band-Aids with cartoon characters on them. Otherwise, I agree - a timing
belt about to fail looks like one with a few miles on it.
Mike
news:137q90fr7apsm0b@corp.supernews.com...
>
> 'Inspecting' a Timing Belt is usually a waste of time unless the idler has
> seized and the backside of the belt will show chafing, or there's leakage
> problems and the belt is soaked with coolant or oil..
>
> 'Curly'
>
Or if you suspect a thief may have taken it and replaced it with a belt made
of Band-Aids with cartoon characters on them. Otherwise, I agree - a timing
belt about to fail looks like one with a few miles on it.
Mike
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