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08-10-2006 04:30 PM

Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
document someone can point me to?

Thanks.

G


Elle 08-10-2006 06:55 PM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
It should be fairly easy on this year of Honda. Worst case,
you'll have to buy a wrench/socket or two and be persistent
in getting the joints freed.

The steps appear at:
http://autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker...3d80140a1f.jsp

www.slhonda.com 's parts site should have some drawings to
help you locate the filter, if needed, too.

Elle
Original owner, 1991 Civic, filter took a couple hours to
replace the first time many years ago (mostly due to not
having a very good wrench/socket/adapter etc. set). Now
takes about a half hour.

<gautam@ufl.edu> wrote
> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is
> there a how to
> document someone can point me to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> G
>




Elle 08-10-2006 06:55 PM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
It should be fairly easy on this year of Honda. Worst case,
you'll have to buy a wrench/socket or two and be persistent
in getting the joints freed.

The steps appear at:
http://autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker...3d80140a1f.jsp

www.slhonda.com 's parts site should have some drawings to
help you locate the filter, if needed, too.

Elle
Original owner, 1991 Civic, filter took a couple hours to
replace the first time many years ago (mostly due to not
having a very good wrench/socket/adapter etc. set). Now
takes about a half hour.

<gautam@ufl.edu> wrote
> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is
> there a how to
> document someone can point me to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> G
>




Elle 08-10-2006 06:55 PM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
It should be fairly easy on this year of Honda. Worst case,
you'll have to buy a wrench/socket or two and be persistent
in getting the joints freed.

The steps appear at:
http://autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker...3d80140a1f.jsp

www.slhonda.com 's parts site should have some drawings to
help you locate the filter, if needed, too.

Elle
Original owner, 1991 Civic, filter took a couple hours to
replace the first time many years ago (mostly due to not
having a very good wrench/socket/adapter etc. set). Now
takes about a half hour.

<gautam@ufl.edu> wrote
> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is
> there a how to
> document someone can point me to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> G
>




jim beam 08-10-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
> document someone can point me to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> G
>

why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
miles on the vehicle?

jim beam 08-10-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
> document someone can point me to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> G
>

why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
miles on the vehicle?

jim beam 08-10-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
> document someone can point me to?
>
> Thanks.
>
> G
>

why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
miles on the vehicle?

08-11-2006 08:55 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
>> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
>> document someone can point me to?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> G
>>

> why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
> miles on the vehicle?


There are some misfires when engine idles. None that I can discern while
driving the car. Drives well. It is a 93 Del Sol with 88K miles. A
neighbour suggested changing the fuel filter. Also said it may have
sticky valves and I could try some cleaning agent like Techron.

Recent work done to the car are:
New Timing Belt
New water pump
(All Honda parts)

After the timing belt was replaced, noticed engine knocking during
acceleration after the car warmed up. Got lots of advise, and finally
put in high octane gas and fuel system cleaner and the knocking went
away 99.9%. Not sure if I have to keep on putting high octane gas.

Next replaced spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. The
plug wires had the original 93 date stamp on it. Assume all these are
originals and may have never been replaced. I got the car about 6
months ago. Had ordered the fuel filter at this time. ( All Honda parts)

Since I have already done so much work, why not replace the fuel filter
also....:)


08-11-2006 08:55 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
>> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
>> document someone can point me to?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> G
>>

> why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
> miles on the vehicle?


There are some misfires when engine idles. None that I can discern while
driving the car. Drives well. It is a 93 Del Sol with 88K miles. A
neighbour suggested changing the fuel filter. Also said it may have
sticky valves and I could try some cleaning agent like Techron.

Recent work done to the car are:
New Timing Belt
New water pump
(All Honda parts)

After the timing belt was replaced, noticed engine knocking during
acceleration after the car warmed up. Got lots of advise, and finally
put in high octane gas and fuel system cleaner and the knocking went
away 99.9%. Not sure if I have to keep on putting high octane gas.

Next replaced spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. The
plug wires had the original 93 date stamp on it. Assume all these are
originals and may have never been replaced. I got the car about 6
months ago. Had ordered the fuel filter at this time. ( All Honda parts)

Since I have already done so much work, why not replace the fuel filter
also....:)


08-11-2006 08:55 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
>> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
>> document someone can point me to?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> G
>>

> why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
> miles on the vehicle?


There are some misfires when engine idles. None that I can discern while
driving the car. Drives well. It is a 93 Del Sol with 88K miles. A
neighbour suggested changing the fuel filter. Also said it may have
sticky valves and I could try some cleaning agent like Techron.

Recent work done to the car are:
New Timing Belt
New water pump
(All Honda parts)

After the timing belt was replaced, noticed engine knocking during
acceleration after the car warmed up. Got lots of advise, and finally
put in high octane gas and fuel system cleaner and the knocking went
away 99.9%. Not sure if I have to keep on putting high octane gas.

Next replaced spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. The
plug wires had the original 93 date stamp on it. Assume all these are
originals and may have never been replaced. I got the car about 6
months ago. Had ordered the fuel filter at this time. ( All Honda parts)

Since I have already done so much work, why not replace the fuel filter
also....:)


'Curly Q. Links' 08-11-2006 10:09 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@storm.cns.ufl.edu wrote:
>
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> > gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
> >> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
> >> document someone can point me to?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> G
> >>

> > why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
> > miles on the vehicle?

>
> There are some misfires when engine idles.


-----------------------------

Plugged fuel filter never manifests at idle. It will show up when you've
loaded all your belongings into the car (and a ski box on top) and are
climbing a mountain trying to pass an 18-wheeler into a headwind. That's
when the need for fuel flow is the highest. Sitting in your driveway
uses almost zero gas. Even starting it uses very little.
Techron is for sticking / dribbling injectors, not valves.

Hope this helps.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 08-11-2006 10:09 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@storm.cns.ufl.edu wrote:
>
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> > gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
> >> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
> >> document someone can point me to?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> G
> >>

> > why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
> > miles on the vehicle?

>
> There are some misfires when engine idles.


-----------------------------

Plugged fuel filter never manifests at idle. It will show up when you've
loaded all your belongings into the car (and a ski box on top) and are
climbing a mountain trying to pass an 18-wheeler into a headwind. That's
when the need for fuel flow is the highest. Sitting in your driveway
uses almost zero gas. Even starting it uses very little.
Techron is for sticking / dribbling injectors, not valves.

Hope this helps.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 08-11-2006 10:09 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@storm.cns.ufl.edu wrote:
>
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> > gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
> >> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
> >> document someone can point me to?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> G
> >>

> > why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
> > miles on the vehicle?

>
> There are some misfires when engine idles.


-----------------------------

Plugged fuel filter never manifests at idle. It will show up when you've
loaded all your belongings into the car (and a ski box on top) and are
climbing a mountain trying to pass an 18-wheeler into a headwind. That's
when the need for fuel flow is the highest. Sitting in your driveway
uses almost zero gas. Even starting it uses very little.
Techron is for sticking / dribbling injectors, not valves.

Hope this helps.

'Curly'

jim beam 08-11-2006 10:10 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@storm.cns.ufl.edu wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
>>> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
>>> document someone can point me to?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> G
>>>

>> why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
>> miles on the vehicle?

>
> There are some misfires when engine idles. None that I can discern while
> driving the car. Drives well. It is a 93 Del Sol with 88K miles. A
> neighbour suggested changing the fuel filter. Also said it may have
> sticky valves and I could try some cleaning agent like Techron.
>
> Recent work done to the car are:
> New Timing Belt
> New water pump
> (All Honda parts)
>
> After the timing belt was replaced, noticed engine knocking during
> acceleration after the car warmed up.


ok, timing belt gets changed, engine starts knocking. clue: those two
events are connected!

> Got lots of advise, and finally
> put in high octane gas and fuel system cleaner and the knocking went
> away 99.9%. Not sure if I have to keep on putting high octane gas.


what does it say in the owners manual? if it's not a high compression
b16 vtec, it's designed to run on regular. fix the problem, don't fudge
it with unnecessary filters and the incorrect grade of gas!

>
> Next replaced spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. The
> plug wires had the original 93 date stamp on it. Assume all these are
> originals and may have never been replaced. I got the car about 6
> months ago. Had ordered the fuel filter at this time. ( All Honda parts)
>
> Since I have already done so much work, why not replace the fuel filter
> also....:)
>


the fuel filter won't make the slightest bit of difference to an idle
problem.

#1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
the timing belt being out one tooth...

jim beam 08-11-2006 10:10 AM

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 
gautam@storm.cns.ufl.edu wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> gautam@ufl.edu wrote:
>>> Is changing the fuel filter something a novice can do? Is there a how to
>>> document someone can point me to?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> G
>>>

>> why do you want to do it? what problems are you experiencing? how many
>> miles on the vehicle?

>
> There are some misfires when engine idles. None that I can discern while
> driving the car. Drives well. It is a 93 Del Sol with 88K miles. A
> neighbour suggested changing the fuel filter. Also said it may have
> sticky valves and I could try some cleaning agent like Techron.
>
> Recent work done to the car are:
> New Timing Belt
> New water pump
> (All Honda parts)
>
> After the timing belt was replaced, noticed engine knocking during
> acceleration after the car warmed up.


ok, timing belt gets changed, engine starts knocking. clue: those two
events are connected!

> Got lots of advise, and finally
> put in high octane gas and fuel system cleaner and the knocking went
> away 99.9%. Not sure if I have to keep on putting high octane gas.


what does it say in the owners manual? if it's not a high compression
b16 vtec, it's designed to run on regular. fix the problem, don't fudge
it with unnecessary filters and the incorrect grade of gas!

>
> Next replaced spark plugs, plug wires, distributor cap and rotor. The
> plug wires had the original 93 date stamp on it. Assume all these are
> originals and may have never been replaced. I got the car about 6
> months ago. Had ordered the fuel filter at this time. ( All Honda parts)
>
> Since I have already done so much work, why not replace the fuel filter
> also....:)
>


the fuel filter won't make the slightest bit of difference to an idle
problem.

#1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
the timing belt being out one tooth...


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