Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
> #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
> ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
> common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
> experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
> it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
> engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
> have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
> how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
> correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
> and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
> the timing belt being out one tooth...

Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
used the red ignition mark as TDC.

Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
on the mark.

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
> #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
> ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
> common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
> experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
> it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
> engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
> have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
> how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
> correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
> and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
> the timing belt being out one tooth...

Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
used the red ignition mark as TDC.

Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
on the mark.

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 

delSol-owner@nospam.net wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
>> ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
>> common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
>> experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
>> it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
>> engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
>> have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
>> how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
>> correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
>> and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
>> the timing belt being out one tooth...
>
> Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
> timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
> aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
> pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
> on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
> with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
> used the red ignition mark as TDC.
>
> Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
> on the mark.
>
thanks for the feedback and confirmation - it's good for the archives
when people take the trouble to do that because it allows others to
follow your diagnostics to a successful result, not just "try everything
ever mentioned".

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 

delSol-owner@nospam.net wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
>> ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
>> common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
>> experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
>> it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
>> engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
>> have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
>> how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
>> correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
>> and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
>> the timing belt being out one tooth...
>
> Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
> timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
> aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
> pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
> on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
> with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
> used the red ignition mark as TDC.
>
> Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
> on the mark.
>
thanks for the feedback and confirmation - it's good for the archives
when people take the trouble to do that because it allows others to
follow your diagnostics to a successful result, not just "try everything
ever mentioned".

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 

delSol-owner@nospam.net wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
>> ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
>> common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
>> experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
>> it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
>> engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
>> have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
>> how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
>> correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
>> and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
>> the timing belt being out one tooth...
>
> Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
> timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
> aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
> pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
> on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
> with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
> used the red ignition mark as TDC.
>
> Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
> on the mark.
>
thanks for the feedback and confirmation - it's good for the archives
when people take the trouble to do that because it allows others to
follow your diagnostics to a successful result, not just "try everything
ever mentioned".

Re: Replacing Fuel Filter on 93 del Sol
 

delSol-owner@nospam.net wrote:
> jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> #1 likely cause of this problem is related to timing of both the
>> ignition and the valve train. if the timing belt is loose, a /very/
>> common occurrence if the belt has been changed by someone not
>> experienced with honda, the ignition sensors lash back and forth making
>> it both very hard to set timing accurately and making it hard for the
>> engine computer to fire the ignition correctly. if you don't already
>> have it, buy the factory honda workshop manual from helm.com and read on
>> how to set the belt properly. then you can set the ignition timing
>> correctly [not forgetting to do it with the service connector in place]
>> and enjoy a happy motor once again. also be open to the possibility of
>> the timing belt being out one tooth...
>
> Lots of thanks to Jim. After checking the timing light found ignition
> timing was way off. Next took the valve cover off and timing belt cover off,
> aligned the timing marks per manual, looked at the mark on the crank
> pulley, it was off by 18 degrees, which corresponds to exactly one tooth
> on the cam timing pulley. The guy who did the timing belt work got confused
> with the red ingition timing mark and the white TDC cam timing mark, and
> used the red ignition mark as TDC.
>
> Now the car is fixed and I have a happy motor. Thanks Jim you were right
> on the mark.
>
thanks for the feedback and confirmation - it's good for the archives
when people take the trouble to do that because it allows others to
follow your diagnostics to a successful result, not just "try everything
ever mentioned".