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Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM
brands show up in the top 10. From: http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter Toyota: 23.4% Honda: 12.4% Ford: 9.6% Chevrolet: 8.2% Nissan: 7.0% Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% BMW: 3.7% Lexus: 3.6% Dodge: 3.6% GMC: 2.6% Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8WNEg.71889$MW.6715@trnddc04... > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands > show up in the top 10. Why? Buick, GMC, Pontiac, Caddy, Hummer, etc., are not that popular anywhere. They're not great sellers. Nothing new about this. Jeff > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second > quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8WNEg.71889$MW.6715@trnddc04... > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands > show up in the top 10. Why? Buick, GMC, Pontiac, Caddy, Hummer, etc., are not that popular anywhere. They're not great sellers. Nothing new about this. Jeff > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second > quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8WNEg.71889$MW.6715@trnddc04... > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands > show up in the top 10. Why? Buick, GMC, Pontiac, Caddy, Hummer, etc., are not that popular anywhere. They're not great sellers. Nothing new about this. Jeff > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second > quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only difference is style and price. As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. myc unt PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote: >It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM >brands show up in the top 10. > > >From: > >http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter > >Toyota: 23.4% > >Honda: 12.4% > >Ford: 9.6% > >Chevrolet: 8.2% > >Nissan: 7.0% > >Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > >BMW: 3.7% > >Lexus: 3.6% > >Dodge: 3.6% > >GMC: 2.6% > >Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only difference is style and price. As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. myc unt PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote: >It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM >brands show up in the top 10. > > >From: > >http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter > >Toyota: 23.4% > >Honda: 12.4% > >Ford: 9.6% > >Chevrolet: 8.2% > >Nissan: 7.0% > >Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > >BMW: 3.7% > >Lexus: 3.6% > >Dodge: 3.6% > >GMC: 2.6% > >Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only difference is style and price. As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. myc unt PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote: >It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM >brands show up in the top 10. > > >From: > >http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter > >Toyota: 23.4% > >Honda: 12.4% > >Ford: 9.6% > >Chevrolet: 8.2% > >Nissan: 7.0% > >Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > >BMW: 3.7% > >Lexus: 3.6% > >Dodge: 3.6% > >GMC: 2.6% > >Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
I don't get it.
john "Myc Unter" <my843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com... > > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > > > > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM >>brands show up in the top 10. >> >> >>From: >> >>http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second >>quarter >> >>Toyota: 23.4% >> >>Honda: 12.4% >> >>Ford: 9.6% >> >>Chevrolet: 8.2% >> >>Nissan: 7.0% >> >>Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% >> >>BMW: 3.7% >> >>Lexus: 3.6% >> >>Dodge: 3.6% >> >>GMC: 2.6% >> >>Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
I don't get it.
john "Myc Unter" <my843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com... > > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > > > > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM >>brands show up in the top 10. >> >> >>From: >> >>http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second >>quarter >> >>Toyota: 23.4% >> >>Honda: 12.4% >> >>Ford: 9.6% >> >>Chevrolet: 8.2% >> >>Nissan: 7.0% >> >>Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% >> >>BMW: 3.7% >> >>Lexus: 3.6% >> >>Dodge: 3.6% >> >>GMC: 2.6% >> >>Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
I don't get it.
john "Myc Unter" <my843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com... > > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > > > > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:32:20 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >>It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM >>brands show up in the top 10. >> >> >>From: >> >>http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second >>quarter >> >>Toyota: 23.4% >> >>Honda: 12.4% >> >>Ford: 9.6% >> >>Chevrolet: 8.2% >> >>Nissan: 7.0% >> >>Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% >> >>BMW: 3.7% >> >>Lexus: 3.6% >> >>Dodge: 3.6% >> >>GMC: 2.6% >> >>Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can be
top/volume sellers. John Horner wrote: > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM > brands show up in the top 10. > > > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can be
top/volume sellers. John Horner wrote: > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM > brands show up in the top 10. > > > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can be
top/volume sellers. John Horner wrote: > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM > brands show up in the top 10. > > > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in
news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can > be top/volume sellers. Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab, etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in
news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can > be top/volume sellers. Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab, etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in
news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can > be top/volume sellers. Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab, etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"grappletech" <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in message news:1155785616_1221@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in > news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > >> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >> be top/volume sellers. > > > > Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the > percentages > from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, > Saab, > etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. > But would you not then have to combine Toyota and Lexus - Honda and Acura - Nisan and Infinity ? Jack |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"grappletech" <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in message news:1155785616_1221@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in > news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > >> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >> be top/volume sellers. > > > > Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the > percentages > from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, > Saab, > etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. > But would you not then have to combine Toyota and Lexus - Honda and Acura - Nisan and Infinity ? Jack |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"grappletech" <noone@removenowhere.biz> wrote in message news:1155785616_1221@sp6iad.superfeed.net... > Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in > news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > >> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >> be top/volume sellers. > > > > Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the > percentages > from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, > Saab, > etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. > But would you not then have to combine Toyota and Lexus - Honda and Acura - Nisan and Infinity ? Jack |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"Myc Unter" <my843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message
news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com... > > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > > No problem guessing you are 73 and well into senility. Jack > > > |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"Myc Unter" <my843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message
news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com... > > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > > No problem guessing you are 73 and well into senility. Jack > > > |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
"Myc Unter" <my843@throwawaymailbox.com> wrote in message
news:u7e7e25arsiicee34ugnqh91mm3kmonp1v@4ax.com... > > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > > No problem guessing you are 73 and well into senility. Jack > > > |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
grappletech wrote:
> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in > news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > >> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >> be top/volume sellers. > > > > Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages > from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab, > etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. > Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is at 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM comes even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!). Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at 12.4% without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so it wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda has GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few models and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks and a passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers. If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford and Chrysler remain in deep trouble. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
grappletech wrote:
> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in > news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > >> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >> be top/volume sellers. > > > > Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages > from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab, > etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. > Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is at 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM comes even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!). Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at 12.4% without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so it wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda has GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few models and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks and a passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers. If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford and Chrysler remain in deep trouble. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
grappletech wrote:
> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in > news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: > >> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >> be top/volume sellers. > > > > Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the percentages > from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick, GMC, Saab, > etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. > Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is at 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM comes even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!). Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at 12.4% without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so it wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda has GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few models and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks and a passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers. If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford and Chrysler remain in deep trouble. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Myc Unter wrote:
> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > Some things are noticed but not commented on. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Myc Unter wrote:
> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > Some things are noticed but not commented on. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
Myc Unter wrote:
> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > difference is style and price. > > As soon as gas comes back down to 23 cents people will stop buying > midget cars and go back to Tahoes and Hummers. > > myc unt > > PS: Ha ha you guys never notice my clever nym. Get it? ha ha, I > laugh every time I sign it. You would never guess that I'm 73. > Some things are noticed but not commented on. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Myc Unter wrote: > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they need trucks. > difference is style and price. Exactly! Nicole Kidman and your frigid grandmother are basically the same. The only difference is in style (or lack of such) and the cost of acquisition, maintenance, etc. Not sure how enjoyable ride they are though. Maybe ask your granddad? |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Myc Unter wrote: > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they need trucks. > difference is style and price. Exactly! Nicole Kidman and your frigid grandmother are basically the same. The only difference is in style (or lack of such) and the cost of acquisition, maintenance, etc. Not sure how enjoyable ride they are though. Maybe ask your granddad? |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Myc Unter wrote: > But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and > Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they need trucks. > difference is style and price. Exactly! Nicole Kidman and your frigid grandmother are basically the same. The only difference is in style (or lack of such) and the cost of acquisition, maintenance, etc. Not sure how enjoyable ride they are though. Maybe ask your granddad? |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
sndive@gmail.com wrote:
> Myc Unter wrote: >> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and >> Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > > It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they > need trucks. > The buyers of trucks who have such a need shrunk to about 50% of the truck market during the course of the truck boom. Now the truck market is rapidly shrinking back to those who have a real need for them. Said farmers are going to have their pick of nice used trucks which never saw much work beyond commuting to the office. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
sndive@gmail.com wrote:
> Myc Unter wrote: >> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and >> Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > > It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they > need trucks. > The buyers of trucks who have such a need shrunk to about 50% of the truck market during the course of the truck boom. Now the truck market is rapidly shrinking back to those who have a real need for them. Said farmers are going to have their pick of nice used trucks which never saw much work beyond commuting to the office. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford4) Chevrolet
sndive@gmail.com wrote:
> Myc Unter wrote: >> But Ford and Chevy combined outsell Honda so that proves that Ford and >> Chevy are better than Honda. All cars are the same now anyway. Only > > It proves that there are still farmers in this fertile land and they > need trucks. > The buyers of trucks who have such a need shrunk to about 50% of the truck market during the course of the truck boom. Now the truck market is rapidly shrinking back to those who have a real need for them. Said farmers are going to have their pick of nice used trucks which never saw much work beyond commuting to the office. John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Looks like they are right on the mark when they call California the land of
fruits and nuts ;) mike "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8WNEg.71889$MW.6715@trnddc04... > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands > show up in the top 10. > > > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second > quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Looks like they are right on the mark when they call California the land of
fruits and nuts ;) mike "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8WNEg.71889$MW.6715@trnddc04... > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands > show up in the top 10. > > > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second > quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Looks like they are right on the mark when they call California the land of
fruits and nuts ;) mike "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8WNEg.71889$MW.6715@trnddc04... > It is interesting that outside of Chevrolet and GMC none of the GM brands > show up in the top 10. > > > From: > > http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...ck=1&cset=true > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Market share of top-selling auto brands in California in the second > quarter > > Toyota: 23.4% > > Honda: 12.4% > > Ford: 9.6% > > Chevrolet: 8.2% > > Nissan: 7.0% > > Mercedes-Benz: 3.7% > > BMW: 3.7% > > Lexus: 3.6% > > Dodge: 3.6% > > GMC: 2.6% > > Source: California Motor Car Dealers Assn. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Acording to the orgiantl poster the figures represented were for car sales,
not total vehicle sales. Around half of the vehicles sold in the US are light trucks. GM, Ford and Chrysler sell far more light trucks than any import. mike hunt "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:LUSEg.12882$Z1.2381@trnddc03... > grappletech wrote: >> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in >> news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: >>> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >>> be top/volume sellers. >> >> >> >> Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the >> percentages from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, >> Buick, GMC, Saab, etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. >> > > Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and > Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess > that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is at > 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM comes > even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!). > > Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at 12.4% > without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so it > wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda has > GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few models > and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks and a > passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers. > > > If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford > and Chrysler remain in deep trouble. > > John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Acording to the orgiantl poster the figures represented were for car sales,
not total vehicle sales. Around half of the vehicles sold in the US are light trucks. GM, Ford and Chrysler sell far more light trucks than any import. mike hunt "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:LUSEg.12882$Z1.2381@trnddc03... > grappletech wrote: >> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in >> news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: >>> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >>> be top/volume sellers. >> >> >> >> Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the >> percentages from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, >> Buick, GMC, Saab, etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. >> > > Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and > Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess > that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is at > 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM comes > even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!). > > Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at 12.4% > without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so it > wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda has > GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few models > and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks and a > passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers. > > > If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford > and Chrysler remain in deep trouble. > > John |
Re: Retails Sales Ranking in California: 1) Toyota 2) Honda 3) Ford 4) Chevrolet
Acording to the orgiantl poster the figures represented were for car sales,
not total vehicle sales. Around half of the vehicles sold in the US are light trucks. GM, Ford and Chrysler sell far more light trucks than any import. mike hunt "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:LUSEg.12882$Z1.2381@trnddc03... > grappletech wrote: >> Dave <daves1955@verizon.net> wrote in >> news:3XQEg.12845$Z1.11038@trnddc03: >>> Well there are two GM brands in the top ten! Not all your brands can >>> be top/volume sellers. >> >> >> >> Yeah, it's like splitting the votes. If you were to add up the >> percentages from all of the GM divisions -- Chevy, Pontiac, Cadillac, >> Buick, GMC, Saab, etc, then they will rank as good as Toyota or Honda. >> > > Not really. Chevy got 8.2%. GMC got 2.6%. Buick, Pontiac, Saturn and > Saab all clearly had lower numbers still. Let's be generous and guess > that BPSS got 5% between themselves. 8.2 + 2.6 + 5 = 15.8%. Toyota is at > 23.4. Toyota is so far ahead of the pack that there is no way GM comes > even close even if GM's BPSS brands pulled in 10% share (HAH!). > > Also you would have to add Toyota + Lexus to be fair. Honda was at 12.4% > without Acura. Maybe GM in total bested Honda + Acura, but if so it > wasn't by much. As far as product and sales effort efficiency Honda has > GM beaten by a wide margin in California. Honda has relatively few models > and they are all strong sellers. GM has strong selling trucks and a > passel of also-ran cars, minivans and crossovers. > > > If California is an indicator of things to come nationally then GM, Ford > and Chrysler remain in deep trouble. > > John |
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