Rough running 94 Accord
11-01-2006, 07:27 PM
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Rough running 94 Accord
Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
"good" side but not according to the shop manual.
I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
in the fuel system).
Got any good ideas?
Jojo
Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
"good" side but not according to the shop manual.
I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
in the fuel system).
Got any good ideas?
Jojo
11-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
"Jojo" <oceanradio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
11-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
"Jojo" <oceanradio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
11-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
"Jojo" <oceanradio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
11-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
"Jojo" <oceanradio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:1162427246.520664.288460@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should. That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
"Looks perfect" isn't going to do it.
While you had it out,you should have resoldered it and ELIMINATED IT as a
problem.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
>
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
11-02-2006, 12:07 AM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
Jojo wrote:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
11-02-2006, 12:07 AM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
Jojo wrote:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
11-02-2006, 12:07 AM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
Jojo wrote:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
11-02-2006, 12:07 AM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
Jojo wrote:
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
> Symptoms: car idles slow and misfires except when accelerating.
> Doesn't start sometimes after shutting down for a couple of minutes and
> sometimes stalls at traffic lights. It always starts after a minute or
> two. Sometimes there is a slight "grating" noise.
> I replaced the distributor, cap, rotor, ignitor, ignition coil, plugs,
> wires and fuel filter (and boy, was that filter hard to get out).
> When setting the timing, the timing light misses, i.e., it doesn't fire
> every time it should.
that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
honda parts or aftermarket?
> That could be because it's old, but I don't
> think so. It was the reason I replaced some of the ignition parts.
> The ignition coil was out of spec, actually on what I consider the
> "good" side but not according to the shop manual.
> I have pulled out the "main" relay (from under the dash, beside the
> steering column) and the soldering looks perfect.
> The car has 105,000 miles. The timing belt has not been replaced.
> I have run two fuel injector treatments through the car.
> The "check engine" light is not illuminated.
> If they weren't so expensive, I'd replace the engine relays (especially
> in the fuel system).
> Got any good ideas?
> Jojo
>
11-02-2006, 09:32 AM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
Jojo wrote:
>> that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
>> honda parts or aftermarket?
>
> These parts came from AutoZone.
> Got an idea?
So they are probably aftermarket. Bite the bullet and get OEM.
>> that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
>> honda parts or aftermarket?
>
> These parts came from AutoZone.
> Got an idea?
So they are probably aftermarket. Bite the bullet and get OEM.
11-02-2006, 09:32 AM
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Re: Rough running 94 Accord
Jojo wrote:
>> that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
>> honda parts or aftermarket?
>
> These parts came from AutoZone.
> Got an idea?
So they are probably aftermarket. Bite the bullet and get OEM.
>> that implies there's still a problem with the ignition. did you use
>> honda parts or aftermarket?
>
> These parts came from AutoZone.
> Got an idea?
So they are probably aftermarket. Bite the bullet and get OEM.
