Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>
> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>
>
>
> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>
I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's manual
calls for it, and you won't be sorry. It used to be you could leave the
coolant in there for the life of the car, but those days are long gone.
More and more non-ferrous metals are being used every year, and the coolant
formulation changes all the time to make the tree-huggers happy. Some of
them, according to a chemist I know, are downright incompatible.

Earle



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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
>> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>>
>> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
>> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>>
> I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's
> manual calls for it, and you won't be sorry.



Ab-so-lootely! OEM all the way, baby. I like OEM (can you tell?).



> It used to be you could
> leave the coolant in there for the life of the car,



Earle, you never could do that. In fact, newer antifreeze formulations
offer longer life than ever before.

The change interval used to be two years. Now you can go as long as five
years (under the right conditions!).

The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded block
in the old days.


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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:4542728c$0$12192$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
>> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>>
>> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
>> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>>
> I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's
> manual calls for it, and you won't be sorry.



Ab-so-lootely! OEM all the way, baby. I like OEM (can you tell?).



> It used to be you could
> leave the coolant in there for the life of the car,



Earle, you never could do that. In fact, newer antifreeze formulations
offer longer life than ever before.

The change interval used to be two years. Now you can go as long as five
years (under the right conditions!).

The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded block
in the old days.


--
TeGGeR®

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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:4542728c$0$12192$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
>> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>>
>> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
>> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>>
> I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's
> manual calls for it, and you won't be sorry.



Ab-so-lootely! OEM all the way, baby. I like OEM (can you tell?).



> It used to be you could
> leave the coolant in there for the life of the car,



Earle, you never could do that. In fact, newer antifreeze formulations
offer longer life than ever before.

The change interval used to be two years. Now you can go as long as five
years (under the right conditions!).

The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded block
in the old days.


--
TeGGeR®

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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:4542728c$0$12192$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
>> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
>> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>>
>> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
>> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>>
> I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's
> manual calls for it, and you won't be sorry.



Ab-so-lootely! OEM all the way, baby. I like OEM (can you tell?).



> It used to be you could
> leave the coolant in there for the life of the car,



Earle, you never could do that. In fact, newer antifreeze formulations
offer longer life than ever before.

The change interval used to be two years. Now you can go as long as five
years (under the right conditions!).

The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded block
in the old days.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in news:45428014$0$12050
$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> ...
>> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
>> block in the old days.
>>
> I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
> tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
> abuse that cast iron and brass can.
>


Ethylene glycol (and even the ancient propylene and alcohol mixes) turned
corrosive in and of themselves far faster then than now, tap water or
distilled.


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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in news:45428014$0$12050
$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> ...
>> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
>> block in the old days.
>>
> I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
> tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
> abuse that cast iron and brass can.
>


Ethylene glycol (and even the ancient propylene and alcohol mixes) turned
corrosive in and of themselves far faster then than now, tap water or
distilled.


--
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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in news:45428014$0$12050
$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> ...
>> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
>> block in the old days.
>>
> I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
> tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
> abuse that cast iron and brass can.
>


Ethylene glycol (and even the ancient propylene and alcohol mixes) turned
corrosive in and of themselves far faster then than now, tap water or
distilled.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in news:45428014$0$12050
$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> ...
>> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
>> block in the old days.
>>
> I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
> tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
> abuse that cast iron and brass can.
>


Ethylene glycol (and even the ancient propylene and alcohol mixes) turned
corrosive in and of themselves far faster then than now, tap water or
distilled.


--
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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
....
> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
> block in the old days.
>
I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
abuse that cast iron and brass can.

Earle



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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
....
> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
> block in the old days.
>
I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
abuse that cast iron and brass can.

Earle



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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
....
> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
> block in the old days.
>
I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
abuse that cast iron and brass can.

Earle



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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
....
> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a corroded
> block in the old days.
>
I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who can
tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the sort of
abuse that cast iron and brass can.

Earle



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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869C086AD27Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in news:45428014$0$12050
> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> > ...
> >> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a
> >> corroded block in the old days.
> >>
> > I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who
> > can tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the
> > sort of abuse that cast iron and brass can.
> >
>
>
> Ethylene glycol (and even the ancient propylene and alcohol mixes)
> turned corrosive in and of themselves far faster then than now, tap
> water or distilled.
>
I met a body shop owner in 1976 who had the original coolant in his 1952 GMC
wrecker. I have the original coolant in my eleven year old Jeep, which I
drive every day. One of these days I will get around to changing it. The
heater core is the first to go, if you wait too long. The Civic gets better
treatment, because the engine block is aluminum and the cooling system takes
less than a gallon to refill. I changed it after seven years. Funny thing,
the original coolant was green, and the new stuff is blue.

If I believed what people in newsgroups tell me, I would be changing the oil
at 3,000 miles without fail and the coolant every two years. There are more
fun things to do.

Earle



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Re: Rust in coolant
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869C086AD27Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in news:45428014$0$12050
> $88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9869BED04540Ftegger@207.14.116.130...
> > ...
> >> The myth of permanent antifreeze was the source of many a
> >> corroded block in the old days.
> >>
> > I tend to think that it was indiscriminate use of tap water, but who
> > can tell? One thing I am sure of, is that aluminum cannot take the
> > sort of abuse that cast iron and brass can.
> >
>
>
> Ethylene glycol (and even the ancient propylene and alcohol mixes)
> turned corrosive in and of themselves far faster then than now, tap
> water or distilled.
>
I met a body shop owner in 1976 who had the original coolant in his 1952 GMC
wrecker. I have the original coolant in my eleven year old Jeep, which I
drive every day. One of these days I will get around to changing it. The
heater core is the first to go, if you wait too long. The Civic gets better
treatment, because the engine block is aluminum and the cooling system takes
less than a gallon to refill. I changed it after seven years. Funny thing,
the original coolant was green, and the new stuff is blue.

If I believed what people in newsgroups tell me, I would be changing the oil
at 3,000 miles without fail and the coolant every two years. There are more
fun things to do.

Earle



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