Brian Smith

"murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
news5OKf.2106$YV1.445@fe12.lga...
> Brian,
> Perhaps you don't understand.
> The bumper is supposed to sustain damage in excess of 5 mph without
> falling
> apart. What I did was back up at perhaps at almost 0 mph with the bottom
> of
> the bumper barely rubbing against a parking island (you could hardly hear
> it).
> Do you really think that the whole bumper should come apart under these
> conditions?
> I'm 73 years old and have owned about 12 different cars during that time
> and
> none of them ever lost a bumper.
> And, I might add that I've been a lot harder on those cars than the
> Saturn.

Murray,
Now that you've given me (and the rest of us here <g>) more details, what
you said makes more sense about the problem with the bumper.

Brian

Dave Kelsen

On 2/21/2006 12:00 PM mopa spake these words of knowledge:

> I know you love the car, and your not asking me for your advice, just
> keep in mind that within a few months, your have a lot more then just a
> few scratches on your bumper, rear and front. No car can stay in
> pervert condition, well, unless you never drive it.

Hmm. There's a slip of the ol' Freudian tongue...

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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mopa

Thanks Dave, I'll keep that in mind.

Well its true, I have met quite a few people who buy a new car, or get
a used car repainted, and only a few months or so, there are a few
scratches. I know my car too, but lets face it, everyones car is going
to get a few scratches. It's only a piece of material.

Dave Kelsen

On 2/22/2006 12:38 PM mopa spake these words of knowledge:

> Thanks Dave, I'll keep that in mind.
>
> Well its true, I have met quite a few people who buy a new car, or get
> a used car repainted, and only a few months or so, there are a few
> scratches. I know my car too, but lets face it, everyones car is going
> to get a few scratches. It's only a piece of material.
>

Mopa, I can't tell from your response if you knew or not, but what I was
referring to was the fact that in your original post, you said, "...No
car can stay in _*pervert*_ condition, well, unless you never drive it."

RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
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L Alpert

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:KLtKf.3209$Nr5.858@clgrps13...
>
> "Patrick Maloney" <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9770C5696ADB0patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2. 165...
>> I'm looking at a 2006 Accord Sedan SE which is Royal Blue Pearl. I love
>> the car. It drives great.
>>
>> But, the rear bumper is scratch on the right rear. They tried to buff it
>> out and, of course it's no suprise that, they actually made it worse.
>> The
>> scratches are mostly gone, but paint is now 'foggy'.
>>
>> They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal with the
>> issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was painted as a whole
>> and,
>> while the colors might be named the same, there might be some slight
>> difference causing it to stand out.
>>
>> This doesn't even address the damage they would probably cause just doing
>> the swap.
>>
>> Anybody think I should let them do the swap? I really do like the car.
>
> Let them do the swap and then decide if you're happy with how the colours
> match up between the body panels.
>
> Brian

Have them line up both cars together side by side (very close) and look them
over together.

>
>
>

Patrick Maloney

"Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote in
news:Xns97715C40445thefrogprince@70.169.32.36:

> Waiving the right to remain silent, Patrick Maloney
> <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> They have offered to swap rear bumpers with an EX V6 to deal
>> with the issue. I said no, thinking that the entire car was
>> painted as a whole and, while the colors might be named the
>> same, there might be some slight difference causing it to stand
>> out.
>
> If they are plastic bumpers, then they are probably not painted at
> the same time as the body. Different paint formulations, IIRC.
>

Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table. Car was sold
a few days ago anyway.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >,
Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table.

???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ??

SoCalMike

Brian Smith wrote:
> "murray" <murraysch@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:RRCKf.1209$jl.322@fe09.lga...
>> If you are paying for a new car it seems unfair to offer one that had any
>> type of body damage.
>> I had the same experience with a new Saturn SL2 where they damaged the
>> front
>> bumper in transit (so they said) and offered me a brand new bumper.
>> I took their offer but found later that they had poorly mounted the new
>> bumper and, when I parked with the bumper barely rubbing the parking
>> island,
>> the new bumper just came apart when I backed out.
>> When I brought the car back and demanded that they refund my money as they
>> promised within 30 days, they said:
>> Since I had incurred body damage the car was no longer new and the 30 day
>> return policy was voided.
>
> Let me get this straight. YOU did damage to the car and YOU expected the
> dealership to repair YOUR damage for free. Am I correct in the way I read
> what you are saying?
>

he never should have taken the damaged car in the first place?

Nobody

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >,
> Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table.
>
> ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ??
>
>

I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I pointed
it out to the dealer.

Siskuwihane@gmail.com

Nobody wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
> A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >,
> > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table.
> >
> > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ??
> >
> >
>
> I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I pointed
> it out to the dealer.

You also pointed out that Patrick Maloney in now "Nobody".

Nobody

Siskuwihane@gmail.com wrote in
news:1140880095.290534.134070@t39g2000cwt.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Nobody wrote:
>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>> A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >,
>> > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table.
>> >
>> > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ??
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I
>> pointed it out to the dealer.
>
> You also pointed out that Patrick Maloney in now "Nobody".
>
>

Yup, you got me. Good job.

chip

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:31:03 GMT, Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Siskuwihane@gmail.com wrote in
>news:1140880095.290534.134070@t39g2000cwt.googleg roups.com:
>
>>
>> Nobody wrote:
>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>>> A91D8F.05060625022006@nntp1.usenetserver.com:
>>>
>>> > In article <Xns9775DBDF63B4patXXrickmalXXoneyho@24.24.2.165 >,
>>> > Patrick Maloney <patXXrick_malXXoney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Once I mentioned the VIN sticker issue, it was off the table.
>>> >
>>> > ???? I don't remember you mentioning a VIN sticker issue. ??
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> I didn't here, but someone else mentioned it in this thread, so I
>>> pointed it out to the dealer.
>>
>> You also pointed out that Patrick Maloney in now "Nobody".
>>
>>
>
>Yup, you got me. Good job.


I pointed out the VIN sticker issue. Nobody ever thinks that far
ahead.
Chip