Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. One more reason to just love manual trannies,
> I guess.
>
> One thing to note is that not many stick drivers had seen the weird
> shift patterns mentioned above, but some will experience the back-and-
> forth switching between a 5speed and a 6speed car transmissions. Isn't
> the 6th in the same position as the reverse for the 5speed?
>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban
>
they simply made a mistake and pushed the lever the wrong way. no way
is the transmission going to do that on its own.

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. One more reason to just love manual trannies,
> I guess.
>
> One thing to note is that not many stick drivers had seen the weird
> shift patterns mentioned above, but some will experience the back-and-
> forth switching between a 5speed and a 6speed car transmissions. Isn't
> the 6th in the same position as the reverse for the 5speed?
>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban
>
they simply made a mistake and pushed the lever the wrong way. no way
is the transmission going to do that on its own.

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. One more reason to just love manual trannies,
> I guess.
>
> One thing to note is that not many stick drivers had seen the weird
> shift patterns mentioned above, but some will experience the back-and-
> forth switching between a 5speed and a 6speed car transmissions. Isn't
> the 6th in the same position as the reverse for the 5speed?
>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban
>
they simply made a mistake and pushed the lever the wrong way. no way
is the transmission going to do that on its own.

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
<SNIP>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban

---------------------------

More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
other questions about that.

'Curly'

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
<SNIP>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban

---------------------------

More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
other questions about that.

'Curly'

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
<SNIP>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban

---------------------------

More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
other questions about that.

'Curly'

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

gigelus2k3 wrote:
<SNIP>
> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
> speed?
>
> Serban

---------------------------

More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
other questions about that.

'Curly'

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:qOmdnX5vM4jfflDYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> But some manufacturers did this very oddly, notably International,
>>> which once made truck gearboxes that had patterns like:
>>> 25R
>>> 341
>>> If you didn't pay any attention to the plate on the dash with that
>>> pattern embossed on it, you weren't going anywhere fast!
>>>
>>>
>> i think it was
>> 24r
>> 351
>> reason for offset first was, you didn't use it for normal driving,
>> only loaded starts on hills. it was a crawler gear.
>
>
>
> My pattern is correct. I'm looking at a photo of that dash plate now.
> 25R
> 341
>
>
>
fair enough. 1 is still offset because it's a crawler though. it's a
"feature" on a number of older commercial vehicles - real fun if it's
one of the ones with no synchro!

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:qOmdnX5vM4jfflDYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> But some manufacturers did this very oddly, notably International,
>>> which once made truck gearboxes that had patterns like:
>>> 25R
>>> 341
>>> If you didn't pay any attention to the plate on the dash with that
>>> pattern embossed on it, you weren't going anywhere fast!
>>>
>>>
>> i think it was
>> 24r
>> 351
>> reason for offset first was, you didn't use it for normal driving,
>> only loaded starts on hills. it was a crawler gear.
>
>
>
> My pattern is correct. I'm looking at a photo of that dash plate now.
> 25R
> 341
>
>
>
fair enough. 1 is still offset because it's a crawler though. it's a
"feature" on a number of older commercial vehicles - real fun if it's
one of the ones with no synchro!

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:qOmdnX5vM4jfflDYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> But some manufacturers did this very oddly, notably International,
>>> which once made truck gearboxes that had patterns like:
>>> 25R
>>> 341
>>> If you didn't pay any attention to the plate on the dash with that
>>> pattern embossed on it, you weren't going anywhere fast!
>>>
>>>
>> i think it was
>> 24r
>> 351
>> reason for offset first was, you didn't use it for normal driving,
>> only loaded starts on hills. it was a crawler gear.
>
>
>
> My pattern is correct. I'm looking at a photo of that dash plate now.
> 25R
> 341
>
>
>
fair enough. 1 is still offset because it's a crawler though. it's a
"feature" on a number of older commercial vehicles - real fun if it's
one of the ones with no synchro!

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:qOmdnX5vM4jfflDYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> But some manufacturers did this very oddly, notably International,
>>> which once made truck gearboxes that had patterns like:
>>> 25R
>>> 341
>>> If you didn't pay any attention to the plate on the dash with that
>>> pattern embossed on it, you weren't going anywhere fast!
>>>
>>>
>> i think it was
>> 24r
>> 351
>> reason for offset first was, you didn't use it for normal driving,
>> only loaded starts on hills. it was a crawler gear.
>
>
>
> My pattern is correct. I'm looking at a photo of that dash plate now.
> 25R
> 341
>
>
>
fair enough. 1 is still offset because it's a crawler though. it's a
"feature" on a number of older commercial vehicles - real fun if it's
one of the ones with no synchro!

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

motsco_ wrote:
> gigelus2k3 wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
>> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
>> speed?
>>
>> Serban
>
> ---------------------------
>
> More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
> wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
> that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
> apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
> other questions about that.
>
> 'Curly'

the civic won't lock in park at speed - i know because a "friend"
demonstrated that to me on my new 2000 just after i'd got it. :(
fortunately it has a dog with ramps whose angles allow it to ratchet
unless a secondary locking pin pops into place, and that can't happen
unless the dog is stationary. makes a scary noise that i don't
recommend investigating for yourself.

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

motsco_ wrote:
> gigelus2k3 wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
>> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
>> speed?
>>
>> Serban
>
> ---------------------------
>
> More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
> wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
> that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
> apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
> other questions about that.
>
> 'Curly'

the civic won't lock in park at speed - i know because a "friend"
demonstrated that to me on my new 2000 just after i'd got it. :(
fortunately it has a dog with ramps whose angles allow it to ratchet
unless a secondary locking pin pops into place, and that can't happen
unless the dog is stationary. makes a scary noise that i don't
recommend investigating for yourself.

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

motsco_ wrote:
> gigelus2k3 wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
>> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
>> speed?
>>
>> Serban
>
> ---------------------------
>
> More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
> wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
> that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
> apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
> other questions about that.
>
> 'Curly'

the civic won't lock in park at speed - i know because a "friend"
demonstrated that to me on my new 2000 just after i'd got it. :(
fortunately it has a dog with ramps whose angles allow it to ratchet
unless a secondary locking pin pops into place, and that can't happen
unless the dog is stationary. makes a scary noise that i don't
recommend investigating for yourself.

Re: Silly question regarding manual tranny
 

motsco_ wrote:
> gigelus2k3 wrote:
> <SNIP>
>> One last question I have is about my coworker's accident. How could
>> the automatic tranny actually engage into reverse from probably a 4th
>> speed?
>>
>> Serban
>
> ---------------------------
>
> More likely it actually slammed into PARK (why was he shifting in the
> wrong direction anyhow ?? ). Honda's auto won't let you engage a gear
> that will over-rev the engine or otherwise mess things up, but
> apparently you can still force it into PARK, at speed. There have been
> other questions about that.
>
> 'Curly'

the civic won't lock in park at speed - i know because a "friend"
demonstrated that to me on my new 2000 just after i'd got it. :(
fortunately it has a dog with ramps whose angles allow it to ratchet
unless a secondary locking pin pops into place, and that can't happen
unless the dog is stationary. makes a scary noise that i don't
recommend investigating for yourself.