Re: something weird going on here?
 

got into it today again after work and adjusted all the valves but
when hand cranking again hearing the same noise. then before starting
to remove rocker assy. and cam to see if they installed the right
parts tried something else. took the timing belt back off and rotated
the crank. heading same noise? I think the noise is coming from the
bent timing tab that was bent down when breaking loose the crank bolt.
I think the tab is hitting something at the bottom end of the
rotation. If that is it about the only way to bend it back up through
that small witness hole is with a slide hammer with a stong hook
whatever on the end. question now is has anybody had the same problem
and is this how that fixed the problem too

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

got into it today again after work and adjusted all the valves but
when hand cranking again hearing the same noise. then before starting
to remove rocker assy. and cam to see if they installed the right
parts tried something else. took the timing belt back off and rotated
the crank. heading same noise? I think the noise is coming from the
bent timing tab that was bent down when breaking loose the crank bolt.
I think the tab is hitting something at the bottom end of the
rotation. If that is it about the only way to bend it back up through
that small witness hole is with a slide hammer with a stong hook
whatever on the end. question now is has anybody had the same problem
and is this how that fixed the problem too

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
that was causing the noise when rotating the crank. started it today
and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
know and can hopefully help. :

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
that was causing the noise when rotating the crank. started it today
and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
know and can hopefully help. :

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
that was causing the noise when rotating the crank. started it today
and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
know and can hopefully help. :

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
that was causing the noise when rotating the crank. started it today
and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
know and can hopefully help. :

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

yatabata wrote:
> turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
> causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
> on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
> that was causing the noise when rotating the crank.

i would be very cautious about that repair. you many not be able to
hear anything right now, but there's a good chance that there's still
something rubbing and potentially fraying your timing belt. the safe
choice is to strip down and /replace/ whatever it is you bent.

> started it today
> and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
> complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
> know and can hopefully help. :P
>
> "yatabata" wrote:
> > Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> > crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> > the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> > too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> > so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> > exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> > again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> > somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> > thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

yatabata wrote:
> turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
> causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
> on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
> that was causing the noise when rotating the crank.

i would be very cautious about that repair. you many not be able to
hear anything right now, but there's a good chance that there's still
something rubbing and potentially fraying your timing belt. the safe
choice is to strip down and /replace/ whatever it is you bent.

> started it today
> and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
> complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
> know and can hopefully help. :P
>
> "yatabata" wrote:
> > Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> > crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> > the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> > too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> > so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> > exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> > again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> > somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> > thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

yatabata wrote:
> turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
> causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
> on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
> that was causing the noise when rotating the crank.

i would be very cautious about that repair. you many not be able to
hear anything right now, but there's a good chance that there's still
something rubbing and potentially fraying your timing belt. the safe
choice is to strip down and /replace/ whatever it is you bent.

> started it today
> and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
> complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
> know and can hopefully help. :P
>
> "yatabata" wrote:
> > Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> > crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> > the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> > too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> > so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> > exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> > again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> > somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> > thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

yatabata wrote:
> turned out I was right. It was the timing plate the was bent and
> causing the noise. a friend had a home made slide hammer with a hook
> on the end which worked getting it back up and stopped the contact
> that was causing the noise when rotating the crank.

i would be very cautious about that repair. you many not be able to
hear anything right now, but there's a good chance that there's still
something rubbing and potentially fraying your timing belt. the safe
choice is to strip down and /replace/ whatever it is you bent.

> started it today
> and noise gone now. on to putting the belts covers ect. back on to
> complete the job now. for you all who have problems like this let me
> know and can hopefully help. :P
>
> "yatabata" wrote:
> > Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> > crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> > the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> > too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> > so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> > exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> > again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> > somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> > thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

Thanks for your response back but maybe I didn’t make myself care as
to what was bent. The timing plate is on the other end and the timing
belt is on the end with the pulley and crank. The timing plate is no
reason to remove anything unless it breaks off then the oil pan would
have to be removed to get it out

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

Thanks for your response back but maybe I didn’t make myself care as
to what was bent. The timing plate is on the other end and the timing
belt is on the end with the pulley and crank. The timing plate is no
reason to remove anything unless it breaks off then the oil pan would
have to be removed to get it out

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

Thanks for your response back but maybe I didn’t make myself care as
to what was bent. The timing plate is on the other end and the timing
belt is on the end with the pulley and crank. The timing plate is no
reason to remove anything unless it breaks off then the oil pan would
have to be removed to get it out

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

Thanks for your response back but maybe I didn’t make myself care as
to what was bent. The timing plate is on the other end and the timing
belt is on the end with the pulley and crank. The timing plate is no
reason to remove anything unless it breaks off then the oil pan would
have to be removed to get it out

"yatabata" wrote
> Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> thanks.

Re: something weird going on here?
 

yatabata wrote:
> Thanks for your response back but maybe I didn�t make myself care as
> to what was bent. The timing plate is on the other end and the timing
> belt is on the end with the pulley and crank. The timing plate is no
> reason to remove anything unless it breaks off then the oil pan would
> have to be removed to get it out.

the toothed pulley the crank turns for the timing belt comes off in your
hand - no need to pull the oil pan to replace anything. it's still not
clear exactly what you bent, but whatever it is, it's your call what you
do next: reliability or taking a chance on bent valves? seems like an
easy choice to me.

>
> "yatabata" wrote:
> > Just replaced the head on my 89 honda accord and rotating the
> > crank sounds like the valves are hitting the pistons? called
> > the shop I bought the head from and they are kinda stumped
> > too? I put the number one cylinder up and valves little tight
> > so loosened up so the .006 will fit and the .011 on the
> > exhaust. will go through the rest of the 4 cylinders and check
> > again for this noise/tapping. after that wonder if they
> > somehow installed the wrong valves? have any suggestions
> > thanks.