SRS Unit Failure?
#16
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:vLl5e.3539$ox3.2026@trnddc03:
>
> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts will
> work....was that a scare tactic?
As far as the belts go, most definitely YES.
The belts are controlled by a mechanical inertia sensor, unrelated in any
way to the sodium azide explosives in your steering wheel. And they are
explosives, you know. It is illegal under federal law to possess sodium
azide outside of an airbag assembly that is installed in a motor vehicle.
IF, and this is a big IF, the SRS computer is bad (highly unlikely), the
ONLY thing that would be affected as far as the belts go is the
pretensioners. IF the pretensioners are not operational because the SRS
computer is inoperative, your belts will continue to operate just like any
belts did prior to about 1998.
IF the bags are inoperative, you have about a 5% greater chance of serious
injury or death in a collision than you would have if the bags were
operative. And considering the probability of being involved in a fatal or
injurious collision is less than that of being struck by lightning, that
added 5% is tiny indeed.
http://tinyurl.com/3wdye
It astonishes me how frightened people get these days over this crap. When
I was a kid, our cars DID NOT EVEN HAVE SEAT BELTS. We rode UNRESTRAINED IN
ANY WAY, in the front seat, back seat, all over the US and Canada. Yeesh.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:vLl5e.3539$ox3.2026@trnddc03:
>
> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts will
> work....was that a scare tactic?
As far as the belts go, most definitely YES.
The belts are controlled by a mechanical inertia sensor, unrelated in any
way to the sodium azide explosives in your steering wheel. And they are
explosives, you know. It is illegal under federal law to possess sodium
azide outside of an airbag assembly that is installed in a motor vehicle.
IF, and this is a big IF, the SRS computer is bad (highly unlikely), the
ONLY thing that would be affected as far as the belts go is the
pretensioners. IF the pretensioners are not operational because the SRS
computer is inoperative, your belts will continue to operate just like any
belts did prior to about 1998.
IF the bags are inoperative, you have about a 5% greater chance of serious
injury or death in a collision than you would have if the bags were
operative. And considering the probability of being involved in a fatal or
injurious collision is less than that of being struck by lightning, that
added 5% is tiny indeed.
http://tinyurl.com/3wdye
It astonishes me how frightened people get these days over this crap. When
I was a kid, our cars DID NOT EVEN HAVE SEAT BELTS. We rode UNRESTRAINED IN
ANY WAY, in the front seat, back seat, all over the US and Canada. Yeesh.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#17
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
news:vLl5e.3539$ox3.2026@trnddc03:
>
> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts will
> work....was that a scare tactic?
As far as the belts go, most definitely YES.
The belts are controlled by a mechanical inertia sensor, unrelated in any
way to the sodium azide explosives in your steering wheel. And they are
explosives, you know. It is illegal under federal law to possess sodium
azide outside of an airbag assembly that is installed in a motor vehicle.
IF, and this is a big IF, the SRS computer is bad (highly unlikely), the
ONLY thing that would be affected as far as the belts go is the
pretensioners. IF the pretensioners are not operational because the SRS
computer is inoperative, your belts will continue to operate just like any
belts did prior to about 1998.
IF the bags are inoperative, you have about a 5% greater chance of serious
injury or death in a collision than you would have if the bags were
operative. And considering the probability of being involved in a fatal or
injurious collision is less than that of being struck by lightning, that
added 5% is tiny indeed.
http://tinyurl.com/3wdye
It astonishes me how frightened people get these days over this crap. When
I was a kid, our cars DID NOT EVEN HAVE SEAT BELTS. We rode UNRESTRAINED IN
ANY WAY, in the front seat, back seat, all over the US and Canada. Yeesh.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:vLl5e.3539$ox3.2026@trnddc03:
>
> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts will
> work....was that a scare tactic?
As far as the belts go, most definitely YES.
The belts are controlled by a mechanical inertia sensor, unrelated in any
way to the sodium azide explosives in your steering wheel. And they are
explosives, you know. It is illegal under federal law to possess sodium
azide outside of an airbag assembly that is installed in a motor vehicle.
IF, and this is a big IF, the SRS computer is bad (highly unlikely), the
ONLY thing that would be affected as far as the belts go is the
pretensioners. IF the pretensioners are not operational because the SRS
computer is inoperative, your belts will continue to operate just like any
belts did prior to about 1998.
IF the bags are inoperative, you have about a 5% greater chance of serious
injury or death in a collision than you would have if the bags were
operative. And considering the probability of being involved in a fatal or
injurious collision is less than that of being struck by lightning, that
added 5% is tiny indeed.
http://tinyurl.com/3wdye
It astonishes me how frightened people get these days over this crap. When
I was a kid, our cars DID NOT EVEN HAVE SEAT BELTS. We rode UNRESTRAINED IN
ANY WAY, in the front seat, back seat, all over the US and Canada. Yeesh.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#18
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>
>
> WaterWatcher wrote:
>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
rather predatory, you know.
If they aren't working, why
>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>> the seatbelts.
It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
connectors on yours and you'll see.
>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>> affects the seatbelts.
>
> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did a
> reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
> system or whatever it is, is working?
>
>
If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will cause
intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's normal range
and will cause the system to set an error code.
The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does, then
there may be a real problem with the system.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
>
> WaterWatcher wrote:
>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
rather predatory, you know.
If they aren't working, why
>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>> the seatbelts.
It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
connectors on yours and you'll see.
>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>> affects the seatbelts.
>
> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did a
> reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
> system or whatever it is, is working?
>
>
If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will cause
intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's normal range
and will cause the system to set an error code.
The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does, then
there may be a real problem with the system.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>
>
> WaterWatcher wrote:
>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
rather predatory, you know.
If they aren't working, why
>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>> the seatbelts.
It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
connectors on yours and you'll see.
>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>> affects the seatbelts.
>
> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did a
> reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
> system or whatever it is, is working?
>
>
If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will cause
intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's normal range
and will cause the system to set an error code.
The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does, then
there may be a real problem with the system.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
>
> WaterWatcher wrote:
>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
rather predatory, you know.
If they aren't working, why
>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>> the seatbelts.
It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
connectors on yours and you'll see.
>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>> affects the seatbelts.
>
> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did a
> reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
> system or whatever it is, is working?
>
>
If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will cause
intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's normal range
and will cause the system to set an error code.
The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does, then
there may be a real problem with the system.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
Ok so is it common for a car with only 52,000 miles to have the SRS Unit
fail? Thanks for your reply.
kingnoone wrote:
> the srs unit also monitors the seat belts, if there is a problem it
> would let you know. I work for the company that makes them.
>
>
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
> news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07...
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>>> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wZm5e.1952$H_5.1723@trnddc01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Randolph wrote:
>>>>> DAB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts
>>>>>> will work....was that a scare tactic?
>>>>>
>>>>> They questioned whether the /belts/ would still work???
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics. If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts. I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>>> affects the seatbelts.
>>
>> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
>> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the
>> SRS system or whatever it is, is working?
fail? Thanks for your reply.
kingnoone wrote:
> the srs unit also monitors the seat belts, if there is a problem it
> would let you know. I work for the company that makes them.
>
>
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
> news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07...
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>>> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wZm5e.1952$H_5.1723@trnddc01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Randolph wrote:
>>>>> DAB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts
>>>>>> will work....was that a scare tactic?
>>>>>
>>>>> They questioned whether the /belts/ would still work???
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics. If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts. I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>>> affects the seatbelts.
>>
>> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
>> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the
>> SRS system or whatever it is, is working?
#21
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
Ok so is it common for a car with only 52,000 miles to have the SRS Unit
fail? Thanks for your reply.
kingnoone wrote:
> the srs unit also monitors the seat belts, if there is a problem it
> would let you know. I work for the company that makes them.
>
>
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
> news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07...
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>>> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wZm5e.1952$H_5.1723@trnddc01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Randolph wrote:
>>>>> DAB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts
>>>>>> will work....was that a scare tactic?
>>>>>
>>>>> They questioned whether the /belts/ would still work???
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics. If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts. I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>>> affects the seatbelts.
>>
>> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
>> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the
>> SRS system or whatever it is, is working?
fail? Thanks for your reply.
kingnoone wrote:
> the srs unit also monitors the seat belts, if there is a problem it
> would let you know. I work for the company that makes them.
>
>
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
> news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07...
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>>> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wZm5e.1952$H_5.1723@trnddc01...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Randolph wrote:
>>>>> DAB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts
>>>>>> will work....was that a scare tactic?
>>>>>
>>>>> They questioned whether the /belts/ would still work???
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics. If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts. I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>>> affects the seatbelts.
>>
>> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
>> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the
>> SRS system or whatever it is, is working?
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
TeGGer® wrote:
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
> news:vLl5e.3539$ox3.2026@trnddc03:
>
>
>>
>> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts
>> will work....was that a scare tactic?
>
>
>
> As far as the belts go, most definitely YES.
>
> The belts are controlled by a mechanical inertia sensor, unrelated in
> any way to the sodium azide explosives in your steering wheel. And
> they are explosives, you know. It is illegal under federal law to
> possess sodium azide outside of an airbag assembly that is installed
> in a motor vehicle.
>
> IF, and this is a big IF, the SRS computer is bad (highly unlikely),
> the ONLY thing that would be affected as far as the belts go is the
> pretensioners. IF the pretensioners are not operational because the
> SRS computer is inoperative, your belts will continue to operate just
> like any belts did prior to about 1998.
>
> IF the bags are inoperative, you have about a 5% greater chance of
> serious injury or death in a collision than you would have if the
> bags were operative. And considering the probability of being
> involved in a fatal or injurious collision is less than that of being
> struck by lightning, that added 5% is tiny indeed.
> http://tinyurl.com/3wdye
>
> It astonishes me how frightened people get these days over this crap.
> When I was a kid, our cars DID NOT EVEN HAVE SEAT BELTS. We rode
> UNRESTRAINED IN ANY WAY, in the front seat, back seat, all over the
> US and Canada. Yeesh.
Yep I have fond memories of the back seat and no seat belts......I turned
out ok
Agree.....I would be more likely to die from the air bag impact...I am only
5 feet tall and inorder to see I sit close to the steering wheel....actually
I would feel safer it the damn thing was disconnected.
Thanks for your insights and I won't worry about it<G>
Oh and thanks for the link too!
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
TeGGer® wrote:
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
> news:vLl5e.3539$ox3.2026@trnddc03:
>
>
>>
>> Yes they reset it but said that is no guarantee the bags or belts
>> will work....was that a scare tactic?
>
>
>
> As far as the belts go, most definitely YES.
>
> The belts are controlled by a mechanical inertia sensor, unrelated in
> any way to the sodium azide explosives in your steering wheel. And
> they are explosives, you know. It is illegal under federal law to
> possess sodium azide outside of an airbag assembly that is installed
> in a motor vehicle.
>
> IF, and this is a big IF, the SRS computer is bad (highly unlikely),
> the ONLY thing that would be affected as far as the belts go is the
> pretensioners. IF the pretensioners are not operational because the
> SRS computer is inoperative, your belts will continue to operate just
> like any belts did prior to about 1998.
>
> IF the bags are inoperative, you have about a 5% greater chance of
> serious injury or death in a collision than you would have if the
> bags were operative. And considering the probability of being
> involved in a fatal or injurious collision is less than that of being
> struck by lightning, that added 5% is tiny indeed.
> http://tinyurl.com/3wdye
>
> It astonishes me how frightened people get these days over this crap.
> When I was a kid, our cars DID NOT EVEN HAVE SEAT BELTS. We rode
> UNRESTRAINED IN ANY WAY, in the front seat, back seat, all over the
> US and Canada. Yeesh.
Yep I have fond memories of the back seat and no seat belts......I turned
out ok
Agree.....I would be more likely to die from the air bag impact...I am only
5 feet tall and inorder to see I sit close to the steering wheel....actually
I would feel safer it the damn thing was disconnected.
Thanks for your insights and I won't worry about it<G>
Oh and thanks for the link too!
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TeGGer® wrote:
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
> news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>
>
> Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system
> is rather predatory, you know.
>
>
>
> If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts.
>
>
> It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright
> yellow connectors on yours and you'll see.
>
>
>
>>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>>> affects the seatbelts.
>>
>> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
>> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
>> system or whatever it is, is working?
>>
>>
>
>
> If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
>
> In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will
> cause intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's
> normal range and will cause the system to set an error code.
>
> The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
> recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does,
> then there may be a real problem with the system.
Ok that makes sense.
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TeGGer® wrote:
> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
> news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>
>
> Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system
> is rather predatory, you know.
>
>
>
> If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts.
>
>
> It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright
> yellow connectors on yours and you'll see.
>
>
>
>>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
>>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
>>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
>>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
>>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
>>> affects the seatbelts.
>>
>> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
>> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
>> system or whatever it is, is working?
>>
>>
>
>
> If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
>
> In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will
> cause intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's
> normal range and will cause the system to set an error code.
>
> The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
> recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does,
> then there may be a real problem with the system.
Ok that makes sense.
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
"TeGGer®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>
>
> Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
> rather predatory, you know.
>
If the auto industry wasn't concerned about the legal system we probably
wouldn't have seatbelts, much less airbags, to worry about. It's long been
said that safety doesn't sell. But lawyers will get their attention.
Notice that you don't see Firestones on Fords anymore. I'm not saying
that's right, but it is part of the evolution of the automobile industry.
>
> If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts.
>
>
> It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
> connectors on yours and you'll see.
>
>
I don't think my '95 has pretensioners. I certainly can't find any reference
to it in the owner's manual, my two repair manuals, or the original sales
brochure. Perhaps the OP's '96 has them. At any rate, the seatbelts will
still work without the pretensionsers.
WW
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
"TeGGer®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>
>>
>>
>> WaterWatcher wrote:
>
>>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>
>
> Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
> rather predatory, you know.
>
If the auto industry wasn't concerned about the legal system we probably
wouldn't have seatbelts, much less airbags, to worry about. It's long been
said that safety doesn't sell. But lawyers will get their attention.
Notice that you don't see Firestones on Fords anymore. I'm not saying
that's right, but it is part of the evolution of the automobile industry.
>
> If they aren't working, why
>>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>> the seatbelts.
>
>
> It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
> connectors on yours and you'll see.
>
>
I don't think my '95 has pretensioners. I certainly can't find any reference
to it in the owner's manual, my two repair manuals, or the original sales
brochure. Perhaps the OP's '96 has them. At any rate, the seatbelts will
still work without the pretensionsers.
WW
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
WaterWatcher wrote:
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9632E98532015tegger@207.14.113.17...
>
>>"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>WaterWatcher wrote:
>>
>>>>Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>>
>>
>>Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
>>rather predatory, you know.
>>
>
>
> If the auto industry wasn't concerned about the legal system we probably
> wouldn't have seatbelts, much less airbags, to worry about. It's long been
> said that safety doesn't sell. But lawyers will get their attention.
> Notice that you don't see Firestones on Fords anymore.
did anyone ever notice how the 03 exploder with the independent rear
suspension came out the previous february not september? coincidence???
/any/ vehicle should be able to remain upright in the event of a sudden
blowout, regardless of cause. firestone got hosed for something that
wasn't their problem.
> I'm not saying
> that's right, but it is part of the evolution of the automobile industry.
>
>
>>If they aren't working, why
>>
>>>>doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>>>the seatbelts.
>>
>>
>>It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
>>connectors on yours and you'll see.
>>
>>
>
> I don't think my '95 has pretensioners. I certainly can't find any reference
> to it in the owner's manual, my two repair manuals, or the original sales
> brochure. Perhaps the OP's '96 has them. At any rate, the seatbelts will
> still work without the pretensionsers.
>
> WW
>
>
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9632E98532015tegger@207.14.113.17...
>
>>"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>WaterWatcher wrote:
>>
>>>>Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>>
>>
>>Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
>>rather predatory, you know.
>>
>
>
> If the auto industry wasn't concerned about the legal system we probably
> wouldn't have seatbelts, much less airbags, to worry about. It's long been
> said that safety doesn't sell. But lawyers will get their attention.
> Notice that you don't see Firestones on Fords anymore.
did anyone ever notice how the 03 exploder with the independent rear
suspension came out the previous february not september? coincidence???
/any/ vehicle should be able to remain upright in the event of a sudden
blowout, regardless of cause. firestone got hosed for something that
wasn't their problem.
> I'm not saying
> that's right, but it is part of the evolution of the automobile industry.
>
>
>>If they aren't working, why
>>
>>>>doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>>>the seatbelts.
>>
>>
>>It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
>>connectors on yours and you'll see.
>>
>>
>
> I don't think my '95 has pretensioners. I certainly can't find any reference
> to it in the owner's manual, my two repair manuals, or the original sales
> brochure. Perhaps the OP's '96 has them. At any rate, the seatbelts will
> still work without the pretensionsers.
>
> WW
>
>
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
WaterWatcher wrote:
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9632E98532015tegger@207.14.113.17...
>
>>"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>WaterWatcher wrote:
>>
>>>>Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>>
>>
>>Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
>>rather predatory, you know.
>>
>
>
> If the auto industry wasn't concerned about the legal system we probably
> wouldn't have seatbelts, much less airbags, to worry about. It's long been
> said that safety doesn't sell. But lawyers will get their attention.
> Notice that you don't see Firestones on Fords anymore.
did anyone ever notice how the 03 exploder with the independent rear
suspension came out the previous february not september? coincidence???
/any/ vehicle should be able to remain upright in the event of a sudden
blowout, regardless of cause. firestone got hosed for something that
wasn't their problem.
> I'm not saying
> that's right, but it is part of the evolution of the automobile industry.
>
>
>>If they aren't working, why
>>
>>>>doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>>>the seatbelts.
>>
>>
>>It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
>>connectors on yours and you'll see.
>>
>>
>
> I don't think my '95 has pretensioners. I certainly can't find any reference
> to it in the owner's manual, my two repair manuals, or the original sales
> brochure. Perhaps the OP's '96 has them. At any rate, the seatbelts will
> still work without the pretensionsers.
>
> WW
>
>
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9632E98532015tegger@207.14.113.17...
>
>>"DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>WaterWatcher wrote:
>>
>>>>Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
>>
>>
>>Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system is
>>rather predatory, you know.
>>
>
>
> If the auto industry wasn't concerned about the legal system we probably
> wouldn't have seatbelts, much less airbags, to worry about. It's long been
> said that safety doesn't sell. But lawyers will get their attention.
> Notice that you don't see Firestones on Fords anymore.
did anyone ever notice how the 03 exploder with the independent rear
suspension came out the previous february not september? coincidence???
/any/ vehicle should be able to remain upright in the event of a sudden
blowout, regardless of cause. firestone got hosed for something that
wasn't their problem.
> I'm not saying
> that's right, but it is part of the evolution of the automobile industry.
>
>
>>If they aren't working, why
>>
>>>>doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
>>>>the seatbelts.
>>
>>
>>It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright yellow
>>connectors on yours and you'll see.
>>
>>
>
> I don't think my '95 has pretensioners. I certainly can't find any reference
> to it in the owner's manual, my two repair manuals, or the original sales
> brochure. Perhaps the OP's '96 has them. At any rate, the seatbelts will
> still work without the pretensionsers.
>
> WW
>
>
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Re: SRS Unit Failure?
In article <DOH5e.1022$Zn3.51@trnddc02>, justabitch@dodgeit.com says...
>
>
> TeGGer® wrote:
> > "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
> > news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> WaterWatcher wrote:
> >
> >>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
> >
> >
> > Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system
> > is rather predatory, you know.
> >
> >
> >
> > If they aren't working, why
> >>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
> >>> the seatbelts.
> >
> >
> > It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright
> > yellow connectors on yours and you'll see.
> >
> >
> >
> >>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
> >>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
> >>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
> >>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
> >>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
> >>> affects the seatbelts.
> >>
> >> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
> >> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
> >> system or whatever it is, is working?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
> >
> > In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will
> > cause intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's
> > normal range and will cause the system to set an error code.
> >
> > The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
> > recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does,
Speaking from an Electronics/Communications Technician's standpoint, the
automotive system is one of the harshest environments to operate
electronic devices. Lots of electrical noise and transients to cause
problems.
Randy
>
>
> TeGGer® wrote:
> > "DAB" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote in
> > news:kFF5e.569$jd6.314@trnddc07:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> WaterWatcher wrote:
> >
> >>> Shameless, scumbag scare tactics.
> >
> >
> > Or protective ***-covering. America's stupid winner-pays legal system
> > is rather predatory, you know.
> >
> >
> >
> > If they aren't working, why
> >>> doesn't the light come back on? And the SRS is for the airbags, not
> >>> the seatbelts.
> >
> >
> > It's also for the belt pretensioners. Take a look at those bright
> > yellow connectors on yours and you'll see.
> >
> >
> >
> >>> I'd report them for telling you crap like that. My
> >>> dealer reamed me for $110, but at least he didn't try scare tactics.
> >>> Furthermore, Honda has a lifetime seatbelt warranty, so tell them if
> >>> it affects the seatbelts then they need to fix it under warranty. If
> >>> you do, they will quickly back off on any assertation that the SRS
> >>> affects the seatbelts.
> >>
> >> LOL ok so I assume if they reset the light that means they kinda did
> >> a reboot like on a computer so as long as the light stays off the SRS
> >> system or whatever it is, is working?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > If the error does not recur, the system is fine.
> >
> > In any finely-tuned electrical system, electrical transients will
> > cause intermittent errors. Such transients are outside the system's
> > normal range and will cause the system to set an error code.
> >
> > The accepted procedure is to reset the computer. If the error does not
> > recur (which is the usual result), it was a transient. If it does,
Speaking from an Electronics/Communications Technician's standpoint, the
automotive system is one of the harshest environments to operate
electronic devices. Lots of electrical noise and transients to cause
problems.
Randy