Tony Hwang

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>>Tony
>>
>
> ================
>
> Tony,
>
> As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this
> wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the
> pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START
> position.
>
> Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas
> into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be
> 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air)
> pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve
> attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for
> resistance.
>
> However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're
> supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine
> _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture
> and spark advance (probably none).
>
> As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several
> seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to
> start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also
> recommended in the manual.
>
> On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was
> being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000,
> and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-)
>
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ==================

Hi,
I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so.
Tony

Tony Hwang

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>>Tony
>>
>
> ================
>
> Tony,
>
> As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this
> wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the
> pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START
> position.
>
> Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas
> into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be
> 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air)
> pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve
> attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for
> resistance.
>
> However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're
> supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine
> _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture
> and spark advance (probably none).
>
> As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several
> seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to
> start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also
> recommended in the manual.
>
> On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was
> being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000,
> and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-)
>
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ==================

Hi,
I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so.
Tony

Tony Hwang

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>>Tony
>>
>
> ================
>
> Tony,
>
> As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this
> wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the
> pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START
> position.
>
> Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas
> into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be
> 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air)
> pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve
> attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for
> resistance.
>
> However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're
> supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine
> _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture
> and spark advance (probably none).
>
> As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several
> seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to
> start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also
> recommended in the manual.
>
> On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was
> being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000,
> and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-)
>
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ==================

Hi,
I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so.
Tony

Bob

This AM had to keep pedal half way to start

R




On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Hi,
>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>Tony
>
>Bob wrote:
>> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight...
>> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C)
>> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic
>> outside.
>>
>> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM!
>>
>> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
>>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
>>>actual temperature.
>>
>>
>> Good to know
>>
>>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
>>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up.
>>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>>>>baby started...
>>>>
>>>>R
>>>>
>>
>>

Bob

This AM had to keep pedal half way to start

R




On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Hi,
>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>Tony
>
>Bob wrote:
>> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight...
>> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C)
>> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic
>> outside.
>>
>> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM!
>>
>> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
>>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
>>>actual temperature.
>>
>>
>> Good to know
>>
>>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
>>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up.
>>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>>>>baby started...
>>>>
>>>>R
>>>>
>>
>>

Bob

This AM had to keep pedal half way to start

R




On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Hi,
>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>Tony
>
>Bob wrote:
>> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight...
>> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C)
>> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic
>> outside.
>>
>> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM!
>>
>> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
>>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
>>>actual temperature.
>>
>>
>> Good to know
>>
>>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
>>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up.
>>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>>>>baby started...
>>>>
>>>>R
>>>>
>>
>>

Bob

This AM had to keep pedal half way to start

R




On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Hi,
>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter
>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual.
>Tony
>
>Bob wrote:
>> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight...
>> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C)
>> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic
>> outside.
>>
>> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM!
>>
>> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow
>>
>> R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
>>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
>>>actual temperature.
>>
>>
>> Good to know
>>
>>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
>>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up.
>>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>>>>baby started...
>>>>
>>>>R
>>>>
>>
>>

Ript

I know its been a while, but yea -35c is &$^#ing cold. and I agree that
you should give it a bit of gas when that cold! We dont get that cold
here, thank God! Ocasonly we see -10f or so. On those days, I will grin
and bear it, and start the car manualy with a bit of juice on the peadal.


> Hi,
> Yup, when it is really cold. I just had to start in -35C weather after
> parking the car 2 days outside. Tried remote start not wanting to go
> out in the cold. Barely cranking but no go. Tried once more, almost
> battery is gone. Went out, pumped pedal, BARELY managed to crank,
> fired up right away. I was out at my cabin over the new year's day
> week end. Manual mentions it as well.
> Tony
>
>