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jim beam 12-30-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
Woody wrote:
> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.


might not be available on that vehicle - we've had questions regarding
vehicles from that market before - they're not what we're used to here.
from what i can tell, the code is being read correctly.

>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>


jim beam 12-30-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
Woody wrote:
> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.


might not be available on that vehicle - we've had questions regarding
vehicles from that market before - they're not what we're used to here.
from what i can tell, the code is being read correctly.

>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>


jim beam 12-30-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
Woody wrote:
> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.


might not be available on that vehicle - we've had questions regarding
vehicles from that market before - they're not what we're used to here.
from what i can tell, the code is being read correctly.

>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>


jim beam 12-30-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
Woody wrote:
> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.


might not be available on that vehicle - we've had questions regarding
vehicles from that market before - they're not what we're used to here.
from what i can tell, the code is being read correctly.

>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>


Tegger 12-30-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>> OBDII in 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks.
> Am I reading it correctly?
>




Yes you are. Honda outside North America does not use the OBD-II DLC
system; they retain the more sensible MIL-flash method.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 12-30-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>> OBDII in 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks.
> Am I reading it correctly?
>




Yes you are. Honda outside North America does not use the OBD-II DLC
system; they retain the more sensible MIL-flash method.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 12-30-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>> OBDII in 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks.
> Am I reading it correctly?
>




Yes you are. Honda outside North America does not use the OBD-II DLC
system; they retain the more sensible MIL-flash method.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 12-30-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
"sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>> OBDII in 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>
>> Mike

>
> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks.
> Am I reading it correctly?
>




Yes you are. Honda outside North America does not use the OBD-II DLC
system; they retain the more sensible MIL-flash method.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

E Meyer 01-02-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
You obviously don't know of very many OBD-II cars then. All Nissans and
Hondas to this day still have a way to flash engine codes. Per the FSM for
my '06 CR-V, you can flash codes by shorting the SCS line (with something
called an HDS). '96 was the first year for ODB-II and the SCS connector is
still separate and readily available on those models.


On 12/30/06 1:02 PM, in article
xJylh.1309$ji1.971@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net, "Woody" <TheDuck@Pond.net>
wrote:

> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>>
>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>



E Meyer 01-02-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
You obviously don't know of very many OBD-II cars then. All Nissans and
Hondas to this day still have a way to flash engine codes. Per the FSM for
my '06 CR-V, you can flash codes by shorting the SCS line (with something
called an HDS). '96 was the first year for ODB-II and the SCS connector is
still separate and readily available on those models.


On 12/30/06 1:02 PM, in article
xJylh.1309$ji1.971@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net, "Woody" <TheDuck@Pond.net>
wrote:

> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>>
>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>



E Meyer 01-02-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Sticky ECU Code 14
 
You obviously don't know of very many OBD-II cars then. All Nissans and
Hondas to this day still have a way to flash engine codes. Per the FSM for
my '06 CR-V, you can flash codes by shorting the SCS line (with something
called an HDS). '96 was the first year for ODB-II and the SCS connector is
still separate and readily available on those models.


On 12/30/06 1:02 PM, in article
xJylh.1309$ji1.971@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net, "Woody" <TheDuck@Pond.net>
wrote:

> Jumping the SCS connector reads out the ABS codes or the SRS codes depending
> on which light you are looking at, NOT the engine codes. You need to read
> the engine codes with an OBDII tester. ABS14 is left front wheel sensor, SRS
> 1-4 is short in driver air bag inflator..You can't flash engine codes on any
> OBDII vehicle I know if.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:2tmdnfuitpZ3AQvYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "sharx333" <emil.santos@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1167496656.328671.213390@i12g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>
>>> Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> BTW - where is this located? I think all of North America was using
>>>> OBDII in
>>>> 1996, and 14 is the OBDI code for IAC valve signal.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Hmm. I think it's already OBD-II, but the CEL light is on so we jumped
>>> the SCS connector, and the CEL blinked one long and 4 short blinks. Am
>>> I reading it correctly?
>>>

>>
>> Ah - I heard there were some versions that could be read as either OBDII
>> or OBDI, and this must be one of those. That should be the correct
>> reading. There is a manual for Japanese import OBDI reading at
>> http://www.iequus.com/downloads/manu..._E_14JAN03.pdf and Hondas
>> are on pages 16-25 of the PDF.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>




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