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GillPickle@gmail.com 02-05-2005 10:13 PM

Stolen Honda
 
My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
this possible?


Doug McCrary 02-05-2005 11:54 PM

Re: Stolen Honda
 

<GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>

Someone gave them a key?



Doug McCrary 02-05-2005 11:54 PM

Re: Stolen Honda
 

<GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>

Someone gave them a key?



WaterWatcher 02-06-2005 12:29 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 

"Doug McCrary" <dougmccrary@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:UphNd.18033$uc.14925@trnddc03...
>
> <GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
>> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
>> this possible?
>>

> Someone gave them a key?
>

More likely, the dealer made them a key from the VIN.



WaterWatcher 02-06-2005 12:29 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 

"Doug McCrary" <dougmccrary@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:UphNd.18033$uc.14925@trnddc03...
>
> <GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
>> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
>> this possible?
>>

> Someone gave them a key?
>

More likely, the dealer made them a key from the VIN.



C B George 02-06-2005 08:25 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 

<GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>


Did you buy it used? A previous owner or one of their acquaintances may
have kept a key.



C B George 02-06-2005 08:25 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 

<GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>


Did you buy it used? A previous owner or one of their acquaintances may
have kept a key.



Michael Pardee 02-06-2005 09:36 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 
<GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>

The Arizona Republic ran a story several years ago about Hondas being stolen
by young theives who used Honda keys that were worn down by scraping them on
cement curbs. There wasn't a lot of attribution in the story, so I can't say
whether it was accurate, but there is a possibility that Hondas of that era
had less than secure tumblers.

I used to own a Lotus Europa, and I once met another Lotus owner on the
street. He asked me to compare keys with him and I was amazed to find our
keys were cut identically! Apparently there were only a few keys used by
Lotus in those days.

Mike



Michael Pardee 02-06-2005 09:36 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 
<GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>

The Arizona Republic ran a story several years ago about Hondas being stolen
by young theives who used Honda keys that were worn down by scraping them on
cement curbs. There wasn't a lot of attribution in the story, so I can't say
whether it was accurate, but there is a possibility that Hondas of that era
had less than secure tumblers.

I used to own a Lotus Europa, and I once met another Lotus owner on the
street. He asked me to compare keys with him and I was amazed to find our
keys were cut identically! Apparently there were only a few keys used by
Lotus in those days.

Mike



Michael Pardee 02-06-2005 09:47 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 
"WaterWatcher" <replytogroup@donotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z5idnUUT9YqrNpjfRVn-gg@comcast.com...
>
> "Doug McCrary" <dougmccrary@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:UphNd.18033$uc.14925@trnddc03...
>>
>> <GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
>>> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
>>> this possible?
>>>

>> Someone gave them a key?
>>

> More likely, the dealer made them a key from the VIN.
>

In that case, the vehicle would probably not have been recovered. Doing that
is a lot of work and risk, and requires the vehicle be someplace regularly
or for at least a few hours so the VIN can be copied, the key acquired, and
the car taken. Anybody who goes to that effort (and risk of investigation)
isn't out for a joy ride.

Among the possibilities, a more likely one is that somebody had a Honda key
and wandered around trying doors until one opened. So much depends on where
it was stolen from - if it was from in front of a home the car was more
likely to have been targeted, while if it was in a large parking lot the
wanderer with a key is the way to bet. In addition, if the exterior was
stripped (we aren't told) and the interior left intact, a tow truck rises to
the top of the suspicion list.

Mike



Michael Pardee 02-06-2005 09:47 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 
"WaterWatcher" <replytogroup@donotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z5idnUUT9YqrNpjfRVn-gg@comcast.com...
>
> "Doug McCrary" <dougmccrary@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:UphNd.18033$uc.14925@trnddc03...
>>
>> <GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>>> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
>>> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
>>> this possible?
>>>

>> Someone gave them a key?
>>

> More likely, the dealer made them a key from the VIN.
>

In that case, the vehicle would probably not have been recovered. Doing that
is a lot of work and risk, and requires the vehicle be someplace regularly
or for at least a few hours so the VIN can be copied, the key acquired, and
the car taken. Anybody who goes to that effort (and risk of investigation)
isn't out for a joy ride.

Among the possibilities, a more likely one is that somebody had a Honda key
and wandered around trying doors until one opened. So much depends on where
it was stolen from - if it was from in front of a home the car was more
likely to have been targeted, while if it was in a large parking lot the
wanderer with a key is the way to bet. In addition, if the exterior was
stripped (we aren't told) and the interior left intact, a tow truck rises to
the top of the suspicion list.

Mike



RWM 02-06-2005 10:02 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 


Michael Pardee wrote:

><GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googleg roups.com...
>
>
>>My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
>>the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
>>this possible?
>>
>>
>>

>The Arizona Republic ran a story several years ago about Hondas being stolen
>by young theives who used Honda keys that were worn down by scraping them on
>cement curbs. There wasn't a lot of attribution in the story, so I can't say
>whether it was accurate, but there is a possibility that Hondas of that era
>had less than secure tumblers.
>
>I used to own a Lotus Europa, and I once met another Lotus owner on the
>street. He asked me to compare keys with him and I was amazed to find our
>keys were cut identically! Apparently there were only a few keys used by
>Lotus in those days.
>
>Mike
>



There were only a few Loti, let alone Europas, ever...

RWM 02-06-2005 10:02 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 


Michael Pardee wrote:

><GillPickle@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1107659611.910160.200730@z14g2000cwz.googleg roups.com...
>
>
>>My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
>>the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
>>this possible?
>>
>>
>>

>The Arizona Republic ran a story several years ago about Hondas being stolen
>by young theives who used Honda keys that were worn down by scraping them on
>cement curbs. There wasn't a lot of attribution in the story, so I can't say
>whether it was accurate, but there is a possibility that Hondas of that era
>had less than secure tumblers.
>
>I used to own a Lotus Europa, and I once met another Lotus owner on the
>street. He asked me to compare keys with him and I was amazed to find our
>keys were cut identically! Apparently there were only a few keys used by
>Lotus in those days.
>
>Mike
>



There were only a few Loti, let alone Europas, ever...

jim beam 02-06-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 
GillPickle@gmail.com wrote:
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>

how is this possible?

1. go to a large supermarket & tell the management that you've locked
yourself out of your car. they'll send the guy out with the tools &
they'll have it open in seconds.

2. call aaa & tell them you've locked yourself out... they'll send a
locksmith. he'll cut you a new key in about 5 minutes using nothing but
a blank, a file & a magnifying glass.

3. if your car's 13 years old, the tumblers have worn the key barrel
substantially. many keys will now fit.


jim beam 02-06-2005 10:05 AM

Re: Stolen Honda
 
GillPickle@gmail.com wrote:
> My '92 honda accord was stolen and recovered a few days later. Neither
> the door lock nor the ignition lock show any sign of tampering. How is
> this possible?
>

how is this possible?

1. go to a large supermarket & tell the management that you've locked
yourself out of your car. they'll send the guy out with the tools &
they'll have it open in seconds.

2. call aaa & tell them you've locked yourself out... they'll send a
locksmith. he'll cut you a new key in about 5 minutes using nothing but
a blank, a file & a magnifying glass.

3. if your car's 13 years old, the tumblers have worn the key barrel
substantially. many keys will now fit.



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